Jeff in D.C. Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 No more overpriced, overhyped, broken down has-beens. Been there done that. :doh: As for Bush, I'd love to see him here (at a reasonable price) because of what he brings with him..... Oh yeah, and he's fast also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Looking For Number Four Posted January 19, 2010 Author Share Posted January 19, 2010 People need to also realize that merrimans injury or anything that involves liagaments takes a while to heal. He has really healed completely since that injury.Also keep in mind in an uncapped year san diego can only sign so many players, and since they are the top 8 teams they can't sign anyone unless they lose a player. If we were to get merriman in an uncapped year sign him to a good conract heavy in the 1st year to the uncapped year, but also give him incentive bonuses that way were covered. I personally like this move as it would allow us to be more open and allow orakpo to have more playing time on the end. In regards to this idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Looking For Number Four Posted January 19, 2010 Author Share Posted January 19, 2010 Jeff, AWESOME!!!! Reggie Bush = As well as Crazy Pass Catching - Big Play Making - Young Freak RB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 No more overpriced, overhyped, broken down has-beens. Been there done that. :doh:As for Bush, I'd love to see him here (at a reasonable price) because of what he brings with him..... Can she play O-Line? Seriously, we'd have monster yardage with Bush, uhmmm, "baby" distracting the big uglies on the other side. This could be one Bush actually loved by all in DC. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 People need to also realize that merrimans injury or anything that involves liagaments takes a while to heal. He has really healed completely since that injury.Also keep in mind in an uncapped year san diego can only sign so many players, and since they are the top 8 teams they can't sign anyone unless they lose a player. If we were to get merriman in an uncapped year sign him to a good conract heavy in the 1st year to the uncapped year, but also give him incentive bonuses that way were covered. I personally like this move as it would allow us to be more open and allow orakpo to have more playing time on the end. :doh: Where to begin with this... Merriman is on the juice to compensate for his knee getting blown out. He also has a torn plantar fascia in his left foot. His knee issue is the same one that LaVar never could come back 100% from. Also Merriman is an RFA and RFA cost draft picks. Doesn't matter if SD has one or 52 RFA's, they all will be either tendered, traded or cut. Merriman isn't going to be cut. Please read this thread about RFA's, the CBA and upcoming FA http://extremeskins.com/showthread.php?p=7236003#post7236003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonOfWashington Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 No to LT, and especially to Bush and Merriman. The Redskins can get the players they need without targeting old high priced FA's While I agree with you on LT, I think Bush or Merriman would be worth a shot. And they're not old. Bush is 24, and Merriman is 25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIBBS LIVES Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 LT is like a turkey on Thanksgiving....DONE!!!!!!!!! Merriman is also done. Mcgahee and Bush are interesting but I'd like to stay away from high priced free agents for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrelgreenie Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Shawne Merriman 25, OLB, 6-4, 265 LaDainian Tomilson 30, RB, 5-10, 221 Willis McGhaee 28, RB, 6', 235 Production Reggie Bush 24, RB, 6-0, 203 I think that is the wrong FA target list. Here the FA target list i want to see: Donald Penn, Tampa Bay Buccaneers (27) Penn is one of the more underrated left tackles in football today and will be one of many talented offensive linemen set to become unrestricted free agents this year. While Penn hasn’t had his best season this year, he has proven in the pass to be one of truly balanced left tackles. Penn has done a nice job in the past of keeping the blindside clean of pressure and the Buccaneers have done a nice job this year running over left tackle. The Buccaneers should try to re-sign him quickly because a young left tackle on the market may see some high-end coin. Marcus McNeill, San Diego Chargers (26) McNeill isn’t playing at an elite level this year, but is still an above average left tackle. He’s one of the “bigger” names at the left tackle position thanks to his spectacular and deservedly-hyped rookie season. McNeill has also been undercompensated the last few years playing on his rookie contract as a 2nd round pick, which may incline him to ask for more money than he “deserves.” Any of the Chargers could feasibly be had this offseason and McNeill is no different, but with some of the offensive line woes of the Chargers, McNeill may be one of their top priorities. His long-term neck and back problems could be in the back of the team’s mind as well. Jared Gaither, Baltimore Ravens (24) – Restricted FA After being taken off the field on a stretcher in New England, Gaither luckily suffered no season or career threatening injury. His return to the field has helped the Ravens a little, but never really regained his level of play prior to the hit. The offensive line, Gaither included, has been one of many reasons for the team’s downhill turn. Still, with him on one side and impressive rookie Michael Oher on the other, the Ravens have found their bookend tackles. Even if the team and Gaither can’t settle on a long-term deal this offseason, they still have the ability to put a tender on him. At the very least, it would force teams to give up serious compensation for his services. Gaither’s length and athleticism are the ideal mold of a modern day left tackle. Jermon Bushrod, New Orleans Saints (26) – Restricted FA The Saints called upon Jermon Bushrod to play left tackle the entire year after placing Jammal Brown to the IR due to a hip injury and a sports hernia. Bushrod has done a commendable job replacing the All-Pro Brown, who has a voidable contract at the end of this season. If Brown decides to become a free agent, the Saints would have an interesting choice. Brown will be coming off an injury and will ask for significant money, but has played at a Pro Bowl level whereas Bushrod is the younger, cheaper option with upside. Both of these players are talented enough and good enough to play left tackle on many teams. Others: Eugene Amano, Tennessee Titans (28) Mike Brisiel, Houston Texans (27) Charlie Johnson, Indianapolis Colts (26) Deuce Lutui, Arizona Cardinals (27) Rob Sims, Seattle Seahawks (26) Marshal Yanda, Baltimore Ravens (25) Marshal Yanda, Baltimore Ravens (25) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 I think that is the wrong FA target list.Here the FA target list i want to see: Donald Penn, Tampa Bay Buccaneers (27) Penn is one of the more underrated left tackles in football today and will be one of many talented offensive linemen set to become unrestricted free agents this year. While Penn hasn’t had his best season this year, he has proven in the pass to be one of truly balanced left tackles. Penn has done a nice job in the past of keeping the blindside clean of pressure and the Buccaneers have done a nice job this year running over left tackle. The Buccaneers should try to re-sign him quickly because a young left tackle on the market may see some high-end coin. Marcus McNeill, San Diego Chargers (26) McNeill isn’t playing at an elite level this year, but is still an above average left tackle. He’s one of the “bigger” names at the left tackle position thanks to his spectacular and deservedly-hyped rookie season. McNeill has also been undercompensated the last few years playing on his rookie contract as a 2nd round pick, which may incline him to ask for more money than he “deserves.” Any of the Chargers could feasibly be had this offseason and McNeill is no different, but with some of the offensive line woes of the Chargers, McNeill may be one of their top priorities. His long-term neck and back problems could be in the back of the team’s mind as well. Jared Gaither, Baltimore Ravens (24) – Restricted FA After being taken off the field on a stretcher in New England, Gaither luckily suffered no season or career threatening injury. His return to the field has helped the Ravens a little, but never really regained his level of play prior to the hit. The offensive line, Gaither included, has been one of many reasons for the team’s downhill turn. Still, with him on one side and impressive rookie Michael Oher on the other, the Ravens have found their bookend tackles. Even if the team and Gaither can’t settle on a long-term deal this offseason, they still have the ability to put a tender on him. At the very least, it would force teams to give up serious compensation for his services. Gaither’s length and athleticism are the ideal mold of a modern day left tackle. Jermon Bushrod, New Orleans Saints (26) – Restricted FA The Saints called upon Jermon Bushrod to play left tackle the entire year after placing Jammal Brown to the IR due to a hip injury and a sports hernia. Bushrod has done a commendable job replacing the All-Pro Brown, who has a voidable contract at the end of this season. If Brown decides to become a free agent, the Saints would have an interesting choice. Brown will be coming off an injury and will ask for significant money, but has played at a Pro Bowl level whereas Bushrod is the younger, cheaper option with upside. Both of these players are talented enough and good enough to play left tackle on many teams. Others: Eugene Amano, Tennessee Titans (28) Mike Brisiel, Houston Texans (27) Charlie Johnson, Indianapolis Colts (26) Deuce Lutui, Arizona Cardinals (27) Rob Sims, Seattle Seahawks (26) Marshal Yanda, Baltimore Ravens (25) Marshal Yanda, Baltimore Ravens (25) Your list is out of date on some of these as guys like Penn and McNeil are RFA's. http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=314665 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Acre Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 I'd rather we figure out what kind of team we want and then get the right guys with the right will to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett81 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Who in the world is "Tomilson"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56Skin Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 [quote=Tomilson, Bush, McGahee, Merriman, Kampman......targets? (in italics). No, No, No, No, No...NO!!!!! This is ridiculous. Have you been watching this teams decade long obsession with aging over priced free agents on the decline? We need to draft talented young prospects who are hungry. Look at our track record. For the most part paying these big name guys doesn't work out. Yes there are some exceptions but lets build thru the draft with the exception of a any young up and coming moderately priced O-linemen FA's, assuming any are available. Here's a few names to chew on... Stanley Richards, Mark Carrier, Deon Sanders, Alvin Harper, Dana Stubblefield, Jesse Armstead, Brandon Lloyd, Jeremiah Trotter, Adam Archuleta, Matt Bowen, Trung Canidate, Darrell Russell, Mark Brunnel, Andre Reed, Ki-Jana Carter, Eric Metcalf, Sam Shade, Dan Wilkinson, Daryl Gardner, TJ Ducket, Warrick Holdman, Antwaan Randal El and trust me, quite a few more could be on this list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Robert Griffin Experience Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 You guys are approaching this in entirely the wrong way. Nobody is saying that we should throw 52 million/6 years at LT or Merriman. But it seems to me that these guys are in situations where they could be had relatively cheaply relative to their potential production. 24 million/4 years 6.5 million SB for Merriman? Hell yeah I'll take that. 15 million / 5 years / 3.5 SB for Bush? I'll take that too. 16 million / 4 years for McGahee? Sure. This isn't spending big on FAs, this is bargain shopping for FAs. Now, obviously you have to build through the draft. But getting veterans at certain positions means you're not pressing mid and late-round rookies into service week 1 (for example, starting a 6th round pick at RB is a bad idea, and drafting a starter-quality RB is ****ing delusional seeing that running back is arguably the LEAST important offensive position). At worst, Merriman on a cheap contract is solid depth on a team that needs it. Don't rule out the chance to add talent at the right price, no matter what your front office strategy is. Of course, if these guys ask you to break the bank, just say no. About the linemen, they look nice, and Penn is perfect for us schemewise. But we'll absolutely have to overpay (think 7 years/50+ million) and he's not quite a franchise tackle. Still, taking him allows us to take the QB with #4. Gaither IS a franchise LT but we're almost certainly giving up a 1st. McNeill is good but doesn't work in a ZBS. Bushrod is another RFA, maybe we can get him at a decent price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskins55 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Bush could really excel in the zone blocking scheme. He can cut on a dime and has blazing speed. no one else on that list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris0894 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 I would say we use the draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus87 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Bush could really excel in the zone blocking scheme. He can cut on a dime and has blazing speed. no one else on that list. He doesn't have the vision for it though. To succeed in running behind the ZBS, the RB has to be able to read the hole immediately, cut it, and go. On instinct.Bush is too indecisive for that. It's been arguably his biggest problem since he got to New Orleans, and why he's struggled to actually run the ball. He doesn't hit holes properly and instead tries to stretch plays out into space where he could make plays happen in college with his speed and agility, but can't in the NFL because guys are too fast. Physically, yes, Bush has the perfect tools for it. But mentally, he doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veretax Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 WHy is it skin fans after all the Free Agent busts still wants to go after players we missed and could have drafted? Will we ever learn as a fan base? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus87 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 WHy is it skin fans after all the Free Agent busts still wants to go after players we missed and could have drafted? Will we ever learn as a fan base? And then we look at Snyder, a super rich fan who was actually able to buy the team, and say "How does he never learn, free agents aren't the way! Drafting is!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Pats draft well, and take old free agents. Hmm... Perhaps the Redskins are simply not drafting well. I think they draft just fine most of the time. Injuries happen and it changes everything. Getting a re-tread works sometimes...but not all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squatch66 Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 But hey, this is Washington, the sheer thought of beinging in a name like LT has to have Snyder salivating. these kind of statements make me lol. bruce allen and shanahan are running this team now so the decision isnt even up to snyder on who we bring in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieskin Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 why cant we get our own players through the draft and train to what we want, why do you people think we should keep getting others players I SAY NO TO FA AND YES TO THE DRAFT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svenbob Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Pats draft well, and take old free agents. Hmm... And we all saw how well Sean Springs worked for them this year.... :doh: If you want FA to come to your team and succeed, you have to have a franchise associated with success. Players take pay cuts to play on the Patriots, Steelers or Colts because they want to parts of winning franchises. Players come to places like Washington with the mindset of "winning may not be guaranteed, but the paycheck sure is." A new coach does not change that mindset overnight. Therefore, I don't see any free agent coming here at a reasonable price or following up their arrival with production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozskin Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 No to LT, and especially to Bush and Merriman. The Redskins can get the players they need without targeting old high priced FA's Can you buy the team for me?....please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chump Bailey Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 I can live with Kampman even if we are resolute about going to the 34, but looking to sign anyone else would be insane IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thHanson Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 But if we get Bush we could have a star studded owners box. Snyder tom cruise and the Kardashiyans (sp?). Please all that its good and decent no! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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