Dirk Diggler Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 We've heard that quote before. Snyder told Casserly years after he let him go that he should have let Norv go instead before the 2000 season. Has Snyder already said that to Gregg Williams this season? Williams refused to accept 2 things were a given: Vinny Cerrato and Jason Campbell. And so he didn't get the job. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan133 Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 you know, you could say PLEASE discuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 Well, Casserly is out there again. I call bull**** on Snyder. Unless he's tried to rehire Charlie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 He also said he made a mistake firing Marty like he did. He's learning slowly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcarey032 Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 Gregg Williams said no to Jason Campbell? I had never heard that before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 Id take Charlie and Chucky, or Charlie and Shanny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECU-ALUM Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 He also said he made a mistake firing Marty like he did. He's learning slowly. Well you know what they say talent skips a generation which means his kids should be sharp as tacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailGreen28 Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 Until he fires himself as GM, Danny's statement could be applied to anybody else. except Spurrier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLongshot Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 We've heard that quote before. Snyder told Casserly years after he let him go that he should have let Norv go instead before the 2000 season. Has Snyder already said that to Gregg Williams this season? Williams refused to accept 2 things were a given: Vinny Cerrato and Jason Campbell. And so he didn't get the job. Discuss. I'm sure the issues with Williams were greater than just that. After the debachle that was 2006, I didn't trust Williams with the fate of the team, and I'm sure Snyder was of a similar mindset. Also, rumor at the time was that Williams didn't really make a strong case for himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepo11 Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 Gregg Williams said no to Jason Campbell? I had never heard that before. In George Michael interview a couple week's back...He said that is the reason GW didnt get the Job. Gw wanted Collins to be the starter and Danny Boy wanted to next coach committed to JC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLongshot Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 In George Michael interview a couple week's back...He said that is the reason GW didnt get the Job. Gw wanted Collins to be the starter and Danny Boy wanted to next coach committed to JC. Actually, I remember him saying that he didn't get along with Snyder and Vinny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Brown #43 Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 In George Michael interview a couple week's back...He said that is the reason GW didnt get the Job. Gw wanted Collins to be the starter and Danny Boy wanted to next coach committed to JC. Actually, as I recall, George Michael came right out and said that Dan and Gregg simply didn't get along with each other, and that the relationship would never work. My interpretation of that comment is that Gregg simply refused to kiss Snyder's ***, and it cost him the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 In George Michael interview a couple week's back...He said that is the reason GW didnt get the Job. Gw wanted Collins to be the starter and Danny Boy wanted to next coach committed to JC. Yeah, I've heard that interview like 2 or 3 times and this quote is complete BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 I'm glad GW didn't get the job and we tried to find a young new guy, regardless of the poor turnout. GWs D looks great, playing with a O like the Saints have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito-01 Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 Whoever thinks that JC is a starting NFL QB will have their answer sooner than later. Most of us know he is useless - and, nowhere near being an elite QB. Others will get more exposure as the season goes on to draw their own conclusion. Needless to say, in my books JC is a coach killer. Gregg Williams, Joe Gibbs, and now Zorn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted October 19, 2009 Author Share Posted October 19, 2009 I'm sure the issues with Williams were greater than just that. After the debachle that was 2006, I didn't trust Williams with the fate of the team, and I'm sure Snyder was of a similar mindset. 2006 was ancient history by then. GW's defense carried the team 3 out of 4 years in Washington when the offense was spinning its wheels. And it carried the team to the playoffs down the stretch in 2007 when they lost their most talented player in a generation. If a coach can get his team to perform under those circumstances, I'd say he could be trusted in any other circumstance. Also, rumor at the time was that Williams didn't really make a strong case for himself. The guy is prepared for everything. He blew Tom Donahoe away in his interview with Buffalo in 2001 and I have no doubt that he was uber-prepared with a plan for how he could get this team to the next level. And I'm sure that it (rightly) started with making Campbell compete for his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 Actually, I remember him saying that he didn't get along with Snyder and Vinny. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3215121 GW quote from this article: "Dan and I, and Vinny, had a good time during the process," said Williams. "As far as I'm concerned, everything went well. We laughed, we joked. We never had anything we disagreed on, not really. Vinny and I have gotten along very well, too." :whoknows: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkfan63 Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 Well, Casserly is out there again.I call bull**** on Snyder. Unless he's tried to rehire Charlie. Winner winner chicken dinner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3215121GW quote from this article: "Dan and I, and Vinny, had a good time during the process," said Williams. "As far as I'm concerned, everything went well. We laughed, we joked. We never had anything we disagreed on, not really. Vinny and I have gotten along very well, too." :whoknows: I really think Vinny wanted credit for winning because if they won with Williams, Gibbs would still get credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campbell's_da_man Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 He also said he made a mistake firing Marty like he did. He's learning slowly. He just doesn't see it. He hasn't learned a single thing, because he can't get out of his own way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted October 19, 2009 Author Share Posted October 19, 2009 GWs D looks great, playing with a O like the Saints have. Do you honestly think that all you need to play good defense is a good offense? Seriously? The Saints have had great offenses before this year - you know that right? And did his defenses not play well in Washington (in 2004,5,6) and Buffalo (in 2002,3) when his offenses did their best to completely sabotage the teams? I've seen some weak anti-GW drivel on this board but this takes the cake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Brown #43 Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 2006 was ancient history by then. GW's defense carried the team 3 out of 4 years in Washington when the offense was spinning its wheels. And it carried the team to the playoffs down the stretch in 2007 when they lost their most talented player in a generation. If a coach can get his team to perform under those circumstances, I'd say he could be trusted in any other circumstance. Yeah, if they were unimpressed with Williams' contributions but were blown away by Zorn...well, there you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito-01 Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 The mistake we made was that we allowed Dan Synder to buy the team. The other thing that screwed us was the salary cap. That's one of the primary reasons coach Gibbs left abruptly the first go around. He realized that the old way of doing business was not going to work. The Skins never ever thought of building ground up thru the draft. Gibbs and Bobby Beathard clashed, and Bobby was show the door. Charlie and Dan clashed and he was show the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted October 19, 2009 Author Share Posted October 19, 2009 I really think Vinny wanted credit for winning because if they won with Williams, Gibbs would still get credit. An astute observation, I think there is something to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZRedskinsfan Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 This thread has a very misleading title as Snyder never said that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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