Dirk Diggler Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 This was written the day Zorn was hired... http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2008/02/11/jim-zorn-to-the-redskins-probably-the-worst-nfl-hire-of-all-time/ The Washington Redskins have hired Jim Zorn as their head coach, and though they just had the news conference a few hours ago, it was first leaked a few days ago. It’s still hard to believe, even for wacky Dan Snyder. (John and Jed York must feel so much smarter these days. One or two owners are wackier than they are!) Jim Zorn. To replace Joe Gibbs. That has to be the biggest drop-off in NFL quality since Terrell Owens to Brandon Lloyd. Or the great Al Davis to… the current Al Davis. Gibbs certainly wasn’t at the top of his game at the end of his second Washington tenure, but he forgets more things about coaching in the NFL than most coaches will ever know. Zorn had never been a coordinator until Snyder plucked him from the QB-coaching ranks to be the Redskins’ coordinator a few weeks ago. Worse: Nobody in the NFL had ever thought that Zorn should be considered as a coordinator–a coordinator!–until Snyder and his pal Vinny Cerrato came up with that idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttr77 Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Personally, I'm not willing to make that statement just yet. But he certainly hasn't done anything to prove it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlied72 Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Yea he isn't the worst I have seen. He could be doing alot better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rypien1191 Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Napolean, like its even possible for anyone to know that!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Napolean, like its even possible for anyone to know that!!! Gosh! :hysterical: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.T.real,lights,out Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 I wouldn't say worst of all time! I mean even thats a little harsh man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polywog999 Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Thread was already done... http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=302298 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins Diehard Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Yeah worst hire of all time. Hyperbole is so great. A 9-10 record in your first 10 games is the "worst of all time". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuryYourDuke Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Yeah worst hire of all time. Hyperbole is so great. A 9-10 record in your first 10 games is the "worst of all time". A 9-10 record in your first 10 games is damn near impossible if you ask me. Maybe he is the greatest of all time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuryYourDuke Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 PS, the OP and the blog were not saying he was the worst coach of all time, or that he would have the worst record....just the worst hire. He makes a good case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme Wu Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Yeah worst hire of all time. Hyperbole is so great. A 9-10 record in your first 10 games is the "worst of all time". jesus, you beat me by two posts he's 9-10 you douchebags. someone else put it perfectly - we ***** like impatient women about getting immediate results AND we ***** about not having consistency Good things take time! give the man some DAMN TIME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Brown #43 Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 If the worst hire ever manages to go 8-8 in his first year, that's not bad. Zorn isn't looking great right now but there have been some BAAAAAAAAAAD coaching hires in the NFL throughout history. Zorn may be bad, but certainly not the worst. In fact, not even the worst in NFC East history. Barry Switzer, Dave Campo, Ray Handley and Rich Kotite were all head coaches in this division, just to name a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSkins Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Barry Switzer won the Super Bowl. Obviously he had everything to do with it based on your standard of crediting Zorn with 8-8 and not about the team he took over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Brown #43 Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Barry Switzer won the Super Bowl. Obviously he had everything to do with it based on your standard of crediting Zorn with 8-8 and not about the team he took over. Actually I wasn't crediting Zorn with the 8-8 record at all. What I meant was, if you make the worst coaching hire ever and come away with an 8-8 record, that's not too bad. The reason the Switzer hire was much worse than the Zorn hire was the Switzer hire led to the demise of a dynasty. We didn't have a dynasty for Zorn to topple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandman69 Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 I think the ball "coach" still holds that honor. For now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw Torn Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 I wouldnt say the worst hire of all time but it really diddnt make sense to me at first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rook Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Here is what I said in the other thread about the same topic. Zorn isn't even the worst hire for the Redskins. Herman Ball '49-'51 :doh: Mike Nixon '59-'60, 4-18-2 record :doh::doh: Bill McPeak '61-'65, 21-46-3 record :doh::doh::doh: Norv & Spurrier - 'nuff said :doh::doh:+:doh::doh: Sometimes people need to keep perspective. From the age of 7 to 13, when I was learning to be a Skins fan, I suffered through a record of 25-64-5. It is hard for me to get riled up about a coach who is one game under .500. :peaceout: :helmet: The Rook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Brown #43 Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Zorn isn't even the worst hire for the Redskins. Sometimes people need to keep perspective. From the age of 7 to 13, when I was learning to be a Skins fan, I suffered through a record of 25-64-5. It is hard for me to get riled up about a coach who is one game under .500. Thanks for the perspective. The author says, "Zorn will be last all-time in both alphabetical and career winning percentage listings." People who write crap like that either are too young to have any historical perspective about what happened in the NFL prior to 1995, or are just looking for attention. Or both. And I'm saying this as someone who's quickly losing patience with Zorn. It's still important to keep the proper perspective. Everyone loves to use superlatives. Everyone is the "worst ever" or the "best ever." Shut up, people. No they're not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boofMcboof Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Be honest. How many here actually read the article? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tr1 Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Barry Switzer won the Super Bowl. Obviously he had everything to do with it based on your standard of crediting Zorn with 8-8 and not about the team he took over. This is not a bad analogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 definitely not the worst, but maybe the strangest. ive never heard of a QB coach getting hired as the o coordinator then handed the head coaching job the next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 definitely not the worst, but maybe the strangest. ive never heard of a QB coach getting hired as the o coordinator then handed the head coaching job the next week. Bingo....it should be the worst process for hiring a head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Full Monty Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Snyder should've stuck with Jim Fassel since that was his first instinct. There was a backlash against Fassel as we all remember but it shows how media-sensitive Snyder really is. I doubt Fassel would be such a goofball who can't call a game to save his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rook Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 definitely not the worst, but maybe the strangest. ive never heard of a QB coach getting hired as the o coordinator then handed the head coaching job the next week. BLC, usually when I quote you, it is because I have an "issue" with what you said. But I think you hit this one out of the park. This hire was stranger than the Dallas hire of Wade when they had Jason set as OC. Well said sir. :helmet: The Rook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer Rob Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 not sure about the worst hire of all time, but for damn sure the way we went about that whole head coach hiring situation made us look like complete and total idiots to the rest of the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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