redskins59 Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Our so-called "ends" can't generate enough pass rush, period. Since this is looking like a bad season for us, I say replace Philip Daniels with Jeremy Jarmon, and Andre Carter with Brian Orakpo. Orakpo gets limited opportunities to rush the passer, but when he does, he looks better than Carter. Besides that great year he had for us 2 years ago, Carter just hasn't done anything for us. With Haynseworth in the middle, the defense should be a lot better this year. This guy is being double teamed virtually every time he's playing. One would think that Carter and Philip Daniels would be doing a better job. They aren't, so I think the problem here is with our defensive ends. They just suck, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlied72 Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 But big al isnt doing anything he's in on one big play and hurts him self Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetSkins Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 this could be a good thread two years ago as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepRyder Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Jarmon and Orakpo on the DE's and Chris Wilson at Strongside Linebacker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskins59 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 Jarmon and Orakpo on the DE's and Chris Wilson at Strongside Linebacker. That's exactly what I was thinking. Let's face it, the defense doesn't look as good as it did last year. We need to make drastic changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rypien1191 Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 90% of the whole effing team needs to be replaced. Unfortunately, after a decade of pissing away draft picks and building at the wrong positions, we don't have any ammunition to rebuild as we should. We are not going to be a contender for a long, long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunks64 Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Daniels should definitely be replaced with Orakpo but Carter is fine. Orakpo is out of place when he is not on the end. If we have Carter Griffin Haynesworth Orakpo we would definitely be getting pressure. But we also have to blitz and mix things up, which we didnt do in Detroit and we saw how that turns out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelsis Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Our DEs are terrible, give Orakpo a shot at DE to see if hes a player or a bust, hes not a good LB. Haynesworth is doing his job when hes in the game, he will take on Doubles all game, its up to the DEs and LBs who are 1 on 1 to make a play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico926 Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Daniels should definitely be replaced with Orakpo but Carter is fine. Orakpo is out of place when he is not on the end. If we have Carter Griffin Haynesworth Orakpo we would definitely be getting pressure. But we also have to blitz and mix things up, which we didnt do in Detroit and we saw how that turns out Carter is far from fine! He gets no pressure and the Lions QB was constantly breaking containment on his side, torching our secondary afterwards. When our defense plays this poorly personnel needs to be adjusted. I would sit booth of those sorry D ends and also sit Carlos Rogers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonOfWashington Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Trade for Jason Taylor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboomking Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Haynesworth is definitely doing his job. Look at Tennessee's D without him. Our D was probably on the edge of a steep dropoff this year without Haynesworth and Orakpo. Instead of putting us over the top, they are keeping us from being mediocre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedinBurgNGold Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Carter has to be the most overrated Redskin on our roster. He is NOT a starting DE in this league. What the hell has he ever done for us? Maybe a decent performance every now and then, besides that he needs to kick rocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I-H8-DALLAS Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Our DEs are terrible, give Orakpo a shot at DE to see if hes a player or a bust, hes not a good LB. Haynesworth is doing his job when hes in the game, he will take on Doubles all game, its up to the DEs and LBs who are 1 on 1 to make a play. Orakpo is a DE, I dont understand why the redskins want him to play LB and cover TE's. Thats not what he has played his whole life. Orakpo is a good athlete but there is no way he can cover Whitten, Shockey, Boss...ect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Didn't the Lions target Orakpo on that pass right before the two minute warning? I can see the Orakpo experiment at LB working, but there are going to be major growing pains. Anyway, this is what Carter and Daniels have always been. Carter will get his 8 sacks this year, because he will find a tackle to abuse at some point and half a 3 sack game. But he has a tendency to vanish for games at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimm Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Carter has one move, trying to get around the outside, having only one move isn't gonna work very often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalla Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 I will have to agree with this one, i think Carter is ok, and i do respect Philip Daniels as a good run defender, he has very good strength, why not rotate him on the inside sometimes with Griffen and Haynesworth at DT, and give the young guys, Orakpo and Jarmon more playing at the ends, and i still dont see the reasoning of having Orakpo, the first round DE that this desperately needed imo, playing linebacker!! He was brought in help put constant pressure on the opposing team's QB, not to play zone and cover tight ends and rush occasionally. I say start Orakpo at DE where he is more comfortable, and rotate Jarmon in, with the way defense is playing, what do we have to lose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikie Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 I was dead wrong about carter... he was getting protection slide his way up until this year and I thought he'd have a breakout year for us with the man-to-man looks he'd be getting, but bottomline is the guy has not been able to beat his man... he's gonna be on sirius radio this afternoon, wonder if he'll address his play... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Probos Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 this could be a good thread two years ago as well I agree. The starting DE's are slow. Look at all the good-to-great D-line's in the league and they all have something in common - Speed off the edge. I think Orakpo should be used as a DE way more than he is -- let him get in a rhythm. He could be really good. Move Daniels to tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sndman8369 Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 I would like to see Orakpo at RDE and rotate Jarmon and Daniels at LDE. Daniels on certin running downs, Jarmon on passing downs. Also can use Daniels at DT because Golston is making too many stupid mistakes. Carter can come in to spell Orakpo because he isn't getting it done as a starter. Blades or Wilson can start at OLB for Orakpo and we'd be ok this year, need a stud LB next year in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChillSkinzFan84 Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 I have been preaching this forever now. Glad to see others have caught on. And to think people actually argued that these guys should start and that Orakpo would do nothing but blitz and never be in coverage. Guess we all see the truth now. But like I have said over and over...Blach is too arrogant to make the changes needed to get this thing rolling. Our D could be very dangerous and disruptive if Blach would just let them loose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyburd Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Our so-called "ends" can't generate enough pass rush, period. Since this is looking like a bad season for us, I say replace Philip Daniels with Jeremy Jarmon, and Andre Carter with Brian Orakpo. Orakpo gets limited opportunities to rush the passer, but when he does, he looks better than Carter. Besides that great year he had for us 2 years ago, Carter just hasn't done anything for us.With Haynseworth in the middle, the defense should be a lot better this year. This guy is being double teamed virtually every time he's playing. One would think that Carter and Philip Daniels would be doing a better job. They aren't, so I think the problem here is with our defensive ends. They just suck, period. I couldn't agree more, those two are non existent, nowhere to be found. I still can't believe Blache is putting Orakpo at LB, what a total joke. The one thing we need is pass rush, and he takes a potential 6-8 sack guy and puts him covering backs and TE's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMP Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 It isn't even about what they are doing NOW. What are they going to do be doing when the rest of this team is really ready to compete (which is even less than they are doing now). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebster21 Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Carter is far from fine! He gets no pressure and the Lions QB was constantly breaking containment on his side, torching our secondary afterwards. When our defense plays this poorly personnel needs to be adjusted. I would sit booth of those sorry D ends and also sit Carlos Rogers. You would sit Carlos Rodgers who has been one of our best DB's. How often do you hear and he cought the pass right in front of CR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirClintonPortis Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Brian Orakpo the LB needs to be replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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