MattFancy Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 SN's greatest coaches 1. John Wooden, college basketball 2. Vince Lombardi, NFL 3. Bear Bryant, college football 4. Phil Jackson, NBA 5. Don Shula, NFL 6. Red Auerbach, NBA 7. Scotty Bowman, NHL 8. Dean Smith, college basketball 9. Casey Stengel, MLB 10. Knute Rockne, college football 11. Pat Summitt, women's college basketball 12. Paul Brown, NFL 13. Joe Paterno, college football 14. George Halas, NFL 15. Chuck Noll, NFL 16. Bob Knight, college basketball 17. Joe Gibbs, NFL 18. Tom Landry, NFL 19. Mike Krzyzewski, college basketball 20. Bill Belichick, NFL 21. Adolph Rupp, college basketball 22. Joe McCarthy, MLB 23. Eddie Robinson, college football 24. Bobby Bowden, college football 25. John McGraw, MLB 26. Bill Walsh, NFL 27. Woody Hayes, college football 28. Connie Mack, MLB 29. Bud Wilkinson, college football 30. Pat Riley, NBA 31. Pete Newell, college basketball 32. Joe Torre, MLB 33. Bill Parcells, NFL 34. Tom Osborne, college football 35. Walter Alston, MLB 36. Bo Schembechler, college football 37. Toe Blake, NHL 38. Sparky Anderson, MLB 39. Al Arbour, NHL 40. Amos Alonzo Stagg, college football 41. Tony La Russa, MLB 42. Geno Auriemma, women's college basketball 43. Dick Irvin, NHL 44. Ara Parseghian, college football 45. Chuck Daly, NBA 46. Bobby Cox, MLB 47. Hank Iba, college basketball 48. Tommy Lasorda, MLB 49. Gregg Popovich, NBA 50. Herb Brooks, NHL http://www.sportingnews.com/college-basketball/article/2009-07-29/sporting-news-50-greatest-coaches-all-time So Joe Gibbs is the 17th greatest coach of all-time, not too bad. He's the 6th greatest NFL coach of all-time. What do you guys think of this list? Any changes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zguy28 Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 How the heck did Bill Walsh get down at 26? Or that Don Coryell didn't even make it? I wouldn't put Bear Bryant that high either. Just my personal opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky21 Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Hard to argue with that top 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted July 30, 2009 Author Share Posted July 30, 2009 I'm not sure if Shula should be top 5 overall. He does have the most wins for an NFL coach but he doesn't have the Super Bowls like the rest of them. I thought Knoll would be ahead of Shula. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zguy28 Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 I'm kind of surprised Glenn "Pop" Warner isn't on there either for College Football. His formations like Single Wing are still used today in college football and extensively in youth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan44 Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 The list looks pretty accurate. Joe Gibbs at 17 looks about right, but Bill Walsh should be ahead of Bill Belichick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 How is Morgan Wootten not listed at all ? That's weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticksboi05 Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Walsh at 26? HA WTF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGI Jef Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 pretty cool. good list for such a tough task, and cool to see Gibbs get some respect like that - #17 all time in all sports? that's damn good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboDaMan Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Pretty impressive list. I think Bill Walsh should be a lot higher on that list, Pat Riley could go up a few slots also. Shula was a great coach, but top five ever? He needs to drop down lower in the top ten. Somewhere below Pat Summitt, who belongs in the top ten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Thing about Shula was that his teams were almost always in the playoffs. Even if he couldn't win the big ones...his team was always in the running. The Bills of the 80-90's killed him, and the fact that he refused to build a better rushing attack, and relied so much on Marino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zguy28 Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Thing about Shula was that his teams were almost always in the playoffs. Even if he couldn't win the big ones...his team was always in the running. The Bills of the 80-90's killed him, and the fact that he refused to build a better rushing attack, and relied so much on Marino.I'm sure a little something like the only totally undefeated NFL team had something to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted July 30, 2009 Author Share Posted July 30, 2009 Thing about Shula was that his teams were almost always in the playoffs. Even if he couldn't win the big ones...his team was always in the running. The Bills of the 80-90's killed him, and the fact that he refused to build a better rushing attack, and relied so much on Marino. He coached 33 years and had 2 losing seasons. The problem though was that in 33 years he only had 2 SBs and 1 NFL Championship. Walsh was a coach for half of that and won 3 SBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 I'm sure a little something like the only totally undefeated NFL team had something to do with it. Well of course, but to see that he could never even win another one takes away from that as an elite coach too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsTime Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Glad to see Gibbs ahead of Tom Landry. :dallasuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zguy28 Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 I think Bill Walsh should be a lot higher on that listGlad I'm not the only one who felt that way. Walsh's passing offense was prolific.I wonder about Hank Stram as well. Perhaps those later years with the hapless Saints killed his chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 No Earl Weaver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSkins561 Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 How is Morgan Wootten not listed at all ? That's weak. I use to go to his basketball camp at Mount St. Marys, he is a High School coach, there are many impressive High School coaches. As for the list, Shula in the top 5? ahead of Paterno, someone is biased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endzone_dave Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 I would disagree with Phil Jackson a little. I know he won a lot of championships but that guy had more talent on his teams than anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskins0756 Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 I think the reason Gibbs is so high is he was a great coach. As simple as it sounds he was able to win 3 Super Bowls with 3 different quarterbacks and discovered so much great talent out of the rough. The Redskins didn't have a Joe Montana to rely on, instead Gibbs built his team in the trenches focusing on the most underrated and important aspect of football...the offensive line. So I don't have a problem with him being ahead of Walsh as a coach. If we want to talk the biggest innovator in the NFL I think we re-arrange the list to have Walsh at the top. But I think Joe Gibbs has earned a spot this high after what he did in Washington. And it's funny because everyone likes to look at these iconic coaches like Shula, Landry, Walsh, Parcells, ect. yet Gibbs is almost ALWAYS left out of the discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zguy28 Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 I think the reason Gibbs is so high is he was a great coach. As simple as it sounds he was able to win 3 Super Bowls with 3 different quarterbacks and discovered so much great talent out of the rough. The Redskins didn't have a Joe Montana to rely on, instead Gibbs built his team in the trenches focusing on the most underrated and important aspect of football...the offensive line. So I don't have a problem with him being ahead of Walsh as a coach. If we want to talk the biggest innovator in the NFL I think we re-arrange the list to have Walsh at the top. But I think Joe Gibbs has earned a spot this high after what he did in Washington. And it's funny because everyone likes to look at these iconic coaches like Shula, Landry, Walsh, Parcells, ect. yet Gibbs is almost ALWAYS left out of the discussion.I don't think anybody on here talking about Walsh would rank him higher than Gibbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted July 30, 2009 Author Share Posted July 30, 2009 I would disagree with Phil Jackson a little. I know he won a lot of championships but that guy had more talent on his teams than anyone. Red coached 9 players that are in the basketball HoF. Its not like he was coaching a bunch of bums. The only players Phil has coached that will be in are Jordan, Pippen, Shaq, and Kobe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MintHillSkinsFan Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 No Norv Turner??!!!!!! Blasphemy!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskins0756 Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 I don't think anybody on here talking about Walsh would rank him higher than Gibbs. Well this is for anyone who would consider doing such a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 I use to go to his basketball camp at Mount St. Marys, he is a High School coach, there are many impressive High School coaches. The guys is the winningest coach in the history of basketball. I don't care if he coached HS guys or not, that is impressive. After his team beat Lew Alcindor's (AKA Kareem) and broke the PMA winning streak of 71 games, he was already a revered coach. Even Wooden gave him his props as the finest coach at any level. I would disagree with Phil Jackson a little. I know he won a lot of championships but that guy had more talent on his teams than anyone. You can say he had the two best players the league has ever known. But even as a Lakers fan, I could argue that the team of Magic, Worthy, Kareem, etc, was more talented. The 80's Celtic's...Bird, McHale, Chief, etc. Red coached 9 players that are in the basketball HoF. Its not like he was coaching a bunch of bums. The only players Phil has coached that will be in are Jordan, Pippen, Shaq, and Kobe. And to add to that in a much more diverse league where nearly every team has a superstar or two. Personally, I think Pippen is great and all, but not a top 50 of all-time player even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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