IHOPSkins Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 ..... If you were in his place and people were begging for money......TARP money was forced on banks....ask Wells Fargo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 Can't have that, sugar raises your metabolism, which causes you to respirate faster and breathe out more CO2. :evilg: I thought sugar slowed your metabolism. Which is why diabetics are fat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar78 Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 Obama is a leveler. He has come to narrow the divide between rich and poor. For him the ultimate social value is fairness. Imposing it upon the American social order is his mission. He is not narrowing the divide and handing it to the lower classes. He's just merely creating an opportunity for those that want it and are willing to work for it an opportunity to move up. Unlike the egomaniacs in this place that think they're successful solely because of their own effort, he understands that you never do it alone. It's a nice fairy tale, but even people like Bill Gates would not have become who they are without their hard work AND help along the way from many different sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHOPSkins Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 ...He is not narrowing the divide and handing it to the lower classes. He's just merely creating an opportunity for those that want it and are willing to work ......:bsflag:Obamas Foreclosure relief as an example He has mentioned many times it will only help the responsible But his own staff testified in congress that would not be the case Tax Money from Tax Payers going to the irresponsible........ "From each according to their ability....to each according to their NEED" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 TARP money was forced on banks....ask Wells Fargo lol believe CEO's angry about restrictions if you like. I know BS when I see it. I believe they even claimed they could have raised equal amounts of private money in that time IIRC. What a load of horse****. I know the programs and I know private money wouldn't touch it... Wells knows it as well otherwise they'd say NO THANKS and raise private money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 Obamas Foreclosure relief as an example He has mentioned many times it will only help the responsible But his own staff testified in congress that would not be the case Tax Money from Tax Payers going to the irresponsible........ "From each according to their ability....to each according to their NEED" Typical know nothing alarmist BS. What radio program did you hear this BS from? Tell me the program that is going to give your money to an irresponsible homeowner that can't afford his home? So far the point has been to reduce interest rates or extend terms but every homeowner HAS TO PAY. I have yet to see any of the princple reduction programs (that are voluntary, not that you'll admit it) actually happen very often (due to accounting rules like mark to market). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHOPSkins Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 lol believe CEO's angry about restrictions if you like. I know BS when I see it......Well you need to get better glasses to see betterThey were complaining about being FORCED to take the money BEFORE the restrictions were RETROACTIVELY added We heard a little at the beginning of the bank bailout that some were strongarmed into accepting TARP monies. Wells Fargo reportedly was forced to take $5 billion. Why? The Obama administration and Treasury wanted to keep dissent from their strategy to a minimum, and seeding the industry on the widest possible scale helped demonstrate its necessity — and provided incentive for dissenters to keep their mouths shut. http://hotair.com/archives/2009/03/26/suddenly-tarp-money-looks-bad/ "Is this America -- when you do what your government asks you to do and then retroactively you also have additional conditions? If we were not forced to take the TARP money, we would have been able to raise private capital at that time and not needed to cut the dividend to preserve cash." http://dealbreaker.com/2009/03/wells-fargo-chief-shows-enormo.php STRONGARMED....by the BULLYBama And now YOU know something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 Well you need to get better glasses to see betterThey were complaining about being FORCED to take the money BEFORE the restrictions were RETROACTIVELY added We heard a little at the beginning of the bank bailout that some were strongarmed into accepting TARP monies. Wells Fargo reportedly was forced to take $5 billion. Why? The Obama administration and Treasury wanted to keep dissent from their strategy to a minimum, and seeding the industry on the widest possible scale helped demonstrate its necessity — and provided incentive for dissenters to keep their mouths shut. http://hotair.com/archives/2009/03/26/suddenly-tarp-money-looks-bad/ "Is this America -- when you do what your government asks you to do and then retroactively you also have additional conditions? If we were not forced to take the TARP money, we would have been able to raise private capital at that time and not needed to cut the dividend to preserve cash." http://dealbreaker.com/2009/03/wells-fargo-chief-shows-enormo.php STRONGARMED....by the BULLYBama OK study boy... tell me how they were forced. I know, and I know it REALLY stretches the word "forced"... in fact they weren't forced at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHOPSkins Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 .....tell me how they were forced.......And thank you for making my pointheres that quote again....you seemed to have forgotten it "My administration is the only thing between you and the pitchforks," the president told them." Yup...see video below Feds Forcing TARP On Banks http://www.thehopeforamerica.com/play.php?id=756 You are learning so MUCH today...I am happy for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 OK study boy... tell me how they were forced. I know, and I know it REALLY stretches the word "forced"... in fact they weren't forced at all. You might also explain why they haven't given the money back. Since they really don't need it, or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHOPSkins Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 You might also explain why they haven't given the money back. Since they really don't need it, or anything.Some do need it....they probably have Democratic CEOs They Like Handouts :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Harris Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 The dissenting voice seems to be mostly a sea of attention-whore temper tantrums is this a new phenomenon to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 And thank you for making my pointheres that quote again....you seemed to have forgotten it "My administration is the only thing between you and the pitchforks," the president told them." Yup...see video below Feds Forcing TARP On Banks http://www.thehopeforamerica.com/play.php?id=756 You are learning so MUCH today...I am happy for you I knew you this pool wasn't deep. You don't know, do you? You claim they were forced but you don't know how they were "forced". Let me help you: They claimed they were forced because the government said that if they don't get on board now there will be no help for them should they fail in raising private money. I'm sure the alrmists will see this as OMG THEY FORCED THEM! Just like they do the above negotiation ploy (which we've already discussed, and you reposted as evidence) as strong armed socialism. What actually happened is simple. The government doesn't want to negotiate this AGAIN AND AGAIN. Either get on board now, or you are on your own. The banks, including Wells Fargo, didn't have to take any money. They simply didn't have much faith in their claims to raise private funds. They will claim they "could have" but when the rubber met the road they all took the money. They weren't forced, Obama called their bluff and they were caught holding losing hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 Some do need it....they probably have Democratic CEOs They Like Handouts :laugh: Or maybe they have Republican CEO's that claim they don't need government help but quietly take it anyway. GOP = empty rhetoric. At least with Democrats you know they are crazy enough to do exactly what they claim to want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHOPSkins Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 I knew you this pool wasn't deep. You don't know, do you? You claim they were forced but you don't know how they were "forced". Let me help you:....You didn't watch the Video did you?Obama isn't the only empty suit Forced Public Audits....costing Millions and bad press Do yourself a favor When you accuse someone of BULL.....better not be a Rodeo Clown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaxBuddy21 Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 Do I think Obama is pushing us towards socialism? Yes. Am I alarmed? No. I am a conservative and not a fan of socialism but I think he is doing it because it is what he thinks is best for this country. He is not going to turn us into a socialist nation during his term but he will definitely shift us more in that direction. Maybe it will make us a better and stronger nation. I dont think it will but it might. Let the guy do what he feels is best during his term. This is why we elect a president. If we dont like it when his term is over, we get to vote someone else in afterwards who can change it. Everyone just needs to relax. Let the man do the job he was elected to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar78 Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 Do I think Obama is pushing us towards socialism? Not even close. If Obama is pushing is towards socialism then Bush was pushing us towards totalitarianism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHOPSkins Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 ......If we dont like it when his term is over, we get to vote someone else in afterwards who can change it...... 'The nearest thing to eternal life we will ever see on this earth is a government program.' Ronald Reagan Obama has promised to eliminate government programs that do not work Lets see if this EVER happens :no: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 You didn't watch the Video did you?Obama isn't the only empty suit Forced Public Audits....costing Millions and bad press Do yourself a favor When you accuse someone of BULL.....better not be a Rodeo Clown I watched the video.... what I saw was some FOXNEWS assclown spitting out second hand information he claims he got from an unnamed CEO. The problem is only word he quotes as "his words" is the word forced. There is no exact quote used for any of the other claims he made. That's a common tactic to use when you want to lie. For example: "We were forced to take the money. The government said that if we didn't participate now that we wouldn't get help later. There is really no telling how far they might go, I mean who knows. If you make them angry you might face a public audit" I can take the above completely fictional quote and make up the same story your link provided. In reality it's all bull****. The only quoted portion was "forced" the rest wasn't provided with any context... though the slant of the speaker was made immediately with "russian style socialism" (and out went his credibility). Your video much like your argument is bull**** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 I think the best news out of this Krauthammer piece is that we now have proof absolute that Obama is not a super villain or an arch fiend. It's way too early in his presidency for Obama to begin monologuing. If his "ultimate Agenda" has been unraveled this early he's either a secondary character or not a villain at all, but the hero who has been misportrayed. Viva la comic books! All the wisdom in life can be found in the pages of Shazam! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
81artmonk Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 It's all leading to a form of socialism. Where the govt will take care of all the brianless zombies who are dependant on the govt. And those who achieve will be brought down to the every-mans level, because rich is evil and they aren't paying thier fair share!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 It's all leading to a form of socialism. Where the govt will take care of all the brianless zombies who are dependant on the govt. And those who achieve will be brought down to the every-mans level, because rich is evil and they aren't paying thier fair share!! In short, a nation in which the highly-educated citizens of the blue states will subsidize the poorly-educated citizens of the red states? :halo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
81artmonk Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 In short, a nation in which the highly-educated citizens of the blue states will subsidize the poorly-educated citizens of the red states? :halo: I know you're trying to sarcastic or funny, but you're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar78 Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 It's all leading to a form of socialism. Where the govt will take care of all the brianless zombies who are dependant on the govt. And those who achieve will be brought down to the every-mans level, because rich is evil and they aren't paying thier fair share!! Funny, I think I've achieved. But yet I don't feel threatened by the government's new policies. I don't feel threatened by people supposedly gaining on me. I don't feel poorer financially. Maybe I don't listen to enough Limbaugh and/or Hannity. Maybe I should put quotation marks around my posts when I quote those two guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHOPSkins Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 ....what I saw was some FOXNEWS assclown spitting out....You mean a previous New Jersey Supreme Court Justice?I guess truth only comes from CNN undisclosed sources? (since you KNOW Fox is lying I Guess you KNOW CNN tells the truth?) You should hire your services out to the IRS, I hear there is Lots of Tax Cheats in the present administration Speaking of ***clowns...... You still haven't admitted being wrong about CEO complaints...When you called me "Study Boy" Getting truth from some liberals is like........trying to Pitchfork an ACORN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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