Comparing 6 mock drafts

[skinswin=happy]

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[Gibbsisgod2006]

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http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft09/insider/news/story?id=3973682

Mock Draft: The Experts' ConsensusComment Email Print Share By Chris Sprow

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Mark Sanchez: International Man of (Scouting) Mystery

Earlier, we released Mel Kiper's and Todd McShay's latest mock drafts. As we get closer to draft day, experts are zeroing in on where they believe picks will land … but what might surprise you is just how much they disagree. How is it that one draft guru has a guy at No. 1 and another has him at No. 17? So we charted it out.

The process helps us with three things:

• Assigning draft value. If 10 experts drafted today, who rates highest? Sounds like an actual war room, yes?

• Creating an agreement index. By calculating the standard deviation of likely draft positions among experts, we can determine who is a "safe pick" at No. 20, and who is a "reach" at No. 10. The lower the agreed number, the closer the consensus.

• Finding a range. If one expert has a pick set for No. 5 overall and another has him in the No. 28 spot, it's a good indicator that a lot of mystery still surrounds the guy.

Our pool includes Kiper and McShay, plus draft experts from CBS, Fox, the NFL Network and Yahoo! Sports. Conclusions after the chart. All second-round projections are given a No. 35 pick standing.

The expert rankings are for ESPN Insiders.

Updates will follow the shifting sands of opinion each week.

Experts' Consensus 2009 NFL Mock Draft

Rank Player Kiper McShay NFL.com CBS Fox Yahoo Avg Range Agreement

1 M. Stafford 1 1 4 1 8 1 2.7 7 2.86

2 J. Smith 2 2 1 2 2 8 2.8 7 2.56

3 A. Curry 3 3 3 3 3 3 3.0 0 0

4 E. Monroe 4 6 2 6 6 2 4.3 4 1.97

5 B. Raji 5 4 12 5 4 4 5.7 8 3.14

6 M. Crabtree 6 8 6 4 7 7 6.3 4 1.87

7 B. Orakpo 9 5 5 9 5 6 6.5 4 1.97

8 M. Sanchez 8 17 8 17 1 17 11.3 16 6.71

9 A. Smith 13 10 10 10 13 13 11.5 3 1.64

10 M. Jenkins 16 14 9 14 9 9 11.8 7 3.19

11 A. Maybin 10 9 19 11 15 11 12.5 10 3.78

12 E. Brown 30 11 11 13 11 5 13.5 25 8.52

13 J. Maclin 7 7 7 22 18 22 13.8 15 7.62

14 M. Oher 28 13 18 7 10 10 14.3 21 7.65

15 B. Cushing 15 25 13 16 20 25 16.3 10 5.17

16 R. Maualuga 26 16 16 20 12 12 17.0 14 5.32

17 T. Jackson 12 12 24 12 16 35* 18.5 23 9.30

18 V. Davis 25 26 14 23 14 14 19.3 12 5.92

19 D. Heyward-Bey 18 18 26 18 25 19 20.7 8 3.77

20 P. Jerry 27 20 15 19 24 20 20.8 12 4.17

21 P. Harvin 17 22 22 26 19 27 22.2 10 3.86

22 K. Moreno 14 21 28 21 21 31 22.7 17 6.02

23 C. Wells 31 31 35* 15 17 16 24.2 20 9.08

24 B. Pettigrew 11 24 35* 24 28 28 25.0 24 7.95

25 R. Ayers 20 15 30 35* 35* 15 25.0 20 9.49

26 J. Freeman 19 19 35* 8 35* 35* 25.2 27 11.5

27 E. Britton 35* 28 21 28 22 18 25.3 14 6.18

28 H. Nicks 22 30 17 29 27 29 25.7 13 5.13

29 C. Matthews 23 23 25 35* 26 23 25.8 12 4.67

30 E. Hood 35* 27 20 27 35* 30 29.0 15 5.69

31 J. Laurinaitis 35* 29 27 35 29 26 30.2 8 4.11

32 M. Johnson 24 35* 31 35* 30 3

[MattFancy]

It also said at the end that there is a good chance according to the experts, that either the 49ers or us take Andre Smith.

[StillUnknown]

is it wrong that i'm hoping that Orapko twists an ankle so that we may have a chance of drafting him?

[santana_4_prez]

is it wrong that i'm hoping that Orapko twists an ankle so that we may have a chance of drafting him?

Yeah, it's wrong...but I'm secretly wishing the same thing.

[SkinsMaster88]

is it wrong that i'm hoping that Orapko twists an ankle so that we may have a chance of drafting him?

Well he did pull a hamstring at the combine. His pro day is March 25. I would love for him to fall to the Redskins.

[skinswin=happy]

personally i think maybin is going to be the defensive rookie of the year where ever he goes, and we can definitly snatch him up

[tml6157]

personally i think maybin is going to be the defensive rookie of the year where ever he goes, and we can definitly snatch him up

Maybin is a twig. He will be eaten alive if he plays DE. He is only a sophomore coming out and he never played a second at LB so putting him there would be a huge fail too. NO MAYBIN!!!

[HighOnHendrix]

Maybin is a twig. He will be eaten alive if he plays DE. He is only a sophomore coming out and he never played a second at LB so putting him there would be a huge fail too. NO MAYBIN!!!

BUT BUT BUT...he did LB drills at the combine. That doesn't count?! :doh:

[Stricknine]

Maybin is a twig. He will be eaten alive if he plays DE. He is only a sophomore coming out and he never played a second at LB so putting him there would be a huge fail too. NO MAYBIN!!!

We are in agreement on this one. My first choice would be to trade down, but we will see.

[Playsmart30]

is it wrong that i'm hoping that Orapko twists an ankle so that we may have a chance of drafting him?

I love Orapko and i am praying we select him

[PennSkinsFanhR]

http://dcprosportsreport.com/2009/03/munching-the-redskins-draft-a-smith-and-oher-lead.html

There is a massive tabulation. I don't think the two DEs I would like to have, Brian Orakpo or Everette Brown are going to be around at #13. That leaves Aaron Maybin, Michael Johnson, and Tyson Jackson.

[BurntToast]

We trade our 13th pick to the Lions for the 20th and the first pick in the 3rd round with additional 6th.

Lions Draft OT Jason Smith #1 and QB Sanchez or Stafford at 13.

Redskins Draft LB Brain Cushing at 20 (Cowboys old pick for the Roy trade)

Book it!

[ChiefPowhatan17]

Every mock recently has us taking Andre Smith cause of all his problems, it's like people think we are the only team that will take a chance. I have also seen us taking Cushing and Tyson Jackson. Jackson is an interesting DE, he's huge to battle in the East, but he should be a lower pick then #13. So maybe we could trade back and still get him.

[[[ghost]]]

Yeah, it's wrong...but I'm secretly wishing the same thing.

If wanting Brian Orakpo is wrong, then I don't want to be right.

It feels a lot better if we lie to ourselves. Hurt yourself already, Brian.

[cphil006]

Trading down and taking Matthews is a strong possibility. We will have private workouts for him and Michael Johnson. They both go late first round...

[cphil006]

Every mock recently has us taking Andre Smith cause of all his problems, it's like people think we are the only team that will take a chance. I have also seen us taking Cushing and Tyson Jackson. Jackson is an interesting DE, he's huge to battle in the East, but he should be a lower pick then #13. So maybe we could trade back and still get him.

Andre Smith may have been flabby, but some people just have bad genes in the looks department.

He did great in the blocking drills, just didn't bench a whole lot.

Adam Archuleta was a workout wonder, but sucked at football. Andre Smith may just be the opposite.

[Thinking Skins]

Its so hard to read that original listing.

Experts' Consensus 2009 NFL Mock Draft
Rank Player         Kiper  McShay  NFL.com   CBS   Fox  Yahoo       Avg   Range   Agreement 
1    M. Stafford        1       1        4     1     8      1       2.7       7        2.86 
2    J. Smith           2       2        1     2     2      8       2.8       7        2.56 
3    A. Curry           3       3        3     3     3      3       3.0       0        0 
4    E. Monroe          4       6        2     6     6      2       4.3       4        1.97 
5    B. Raji            5       4       12     5     4      4       5.7       8        3.14 
6    M. Crabtree        6       8        6     4     7      7       6.3       4        1.87 
7    B. Orakpo          9       5        5     9     5      6       6.5       4        1.97 
8    M. Sanchez         8      17        8    17     1     17      11.3      16        6.71 
9    A. Smith          13      10       10    10    13     13      11.5       3        1.64 
10   M. Jenkins        16      14        9    14     9      9      11.8       7        3.19 
11   A. Maybin         10       9       19    11    15     11      12.5      10        3.78 
12   E. Brown          30      11       11    13    11      5      13.5      25        8.52 
13   J. Maclin          7       7        7    22    18     22      13.8      15        7.62 
14   M. Oher           28      13       18     7    10     10      14.3      21        7.65 
15   B. Cushing        15      25       13    16    20     25      16.3      10        5.17 
16   R. Maualuga       26      16       16    20    12     12      17.0      14        5.32 
17   T. Jackson        12      12       24    12    16    35*      18.5      23        9.30 
18   V. Davis          25      26       14    23    14     14      19.3      12        5.92 
19   D. Heyward-Bey    18      18       26    18    25     19      20.7       8        3.77 
20   P. Jerry          27      20       15    19    24     20      20.8      12        4.17 
21   P. Harvin         17      22       22    26    19     27      22.2      10        3.86 
22   K. Moreno         14      21       28    21    21     31      22.7      17        6.02 
23   C. Wells          31      31      35*    15    17     16      24.2      20        9.08 
24   B. Pettigrew      11      24      35*    24    28     28      25.0      24        7.95 
25   R. Ayers          20      15       30   35*   35*     15      25.0      20        9.49 
26   J. Freeman        19      19      35*     8    35*   35*      25.2      27        11.5 
27   E. Britton       35*      28       21    28    22     18      25.3      14        6.18 
28   H. Nicks          22      30       17    29    27     29      25.7      13        5.13 
29   C. Matthews       23      23       25   35*    26     23      25.8      12        4.67 
30   E. Hood          35*      27       20    27   35*     30      29.0      15        5.69 
31   J. Laurinaitis   35*      29       27    35    29     26      30.2       8        4.11 
32   M. Johnson        24      35*      31   35*    30      3

[StillUnknown]

];6219471']If wanting Brian Orakpo is wrong' date=' then I don't want to be right.

It feels a lot better if we lie to ourselves. Hurt yourself already, Brian.[/quote']

better yet, instead of risking an injury to him, we should get someone to plane a small amount of marijuana on him

this way he'll slide enough that we can draft him, and he'll be healthy

i believe the end fully justifies the means in this instance :paranoid:

[alvin walton fan]

I'm all for trading down and getting Keith English. He seems to be a similar type of player to Orakpo.

[texasthunder]

Maybin is a twig. He will be eaten alive if he plays DE. He is only a sophomore coming out and he never played a second at LB so putting him there would be a huge fail too. NO MAYBIN!!!

I have to agree with your signature. If we cant trade down from #13 then lets take Michael Oher.

On a side note, I cant believe Jason Smith from Baylor is rated so high. I watched lots of Baylor games this year and was not impressed with any of the OL. Now the QB, Robert Griffin, that kid is going to be friggin awsome if he can stay healthy. WOW.

[AAARedskin]

Every mock recently has us taking Andre Smith cause of all his problems, it's like people think we are the only team that will take a chance. I have also seen us taking Cushing and Tyson Jackson. Jackson is an interesting DE, he's huge to battle in the East, but he should be a lower pick then #13. So maybe we could trade back and still get him.

In addition, I think all the people creating the mock drafts see the REDSKINS MGT. (Vinny and The Danny?) as a bunch of dummies who will take Andre Smith regardless of all the bad baggage he know has since the combine. This shows how the Redskins ownership is viewed around the nation by many NFL fans....

[AAARedskin]

.....he NOW has.......(sorry for the poor spelling!)

[Thinking Skins]

We trade our 13th pick to the Lions for the 20th and the first pick in the 3rd round with additional 6th.

I think this is the trade that fans want to happen the most. But we've got to see what kind of a guy Martin Mayhew is with draft day deals. Could he be somebody who Vinny takes advantage of?

[Always A Commander Never A Captain]

Thanks Thinking Skins for re-posting it legibly.

I am NOT a fan of Kiper and his mocks. He still has Pettigrew as borderline top 10, going 11th to the Bills? Please. Pettigrew had a really disappointing combine. And before the combine his value was late first max.

I have also seen us taking Cushing and Tyson Jackson. Jackson is an interesting DE, he's huge to battle in the East, but he should be a lower pick then #13. So maybe we could trade back and still get him.

Cushing had a pretty good combine. He did great in the short space drills that matter for LB (which is what Lofa Totupa did well in, in his combine). As for Jackson, I'm for it. He's a younger version of Phillip Daniels. Able to collapse the pocket with the bull-rush. Great against the run. Can move inside to UT on passing downs.

Andre Carter had so many hurries last year. With Haynesworth and Jackson collapsing the pocket, a lot of those hurries will turn into sacks.