Oldskool Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Don't you think Daniels would be good for at least one more season, regardless of whether we bring someone else in or not? With Daniels there, we could go with Wilson as rotation, if we couldn't find anybody else this year..........*mumbles something about "cheap and available"*..... So you're (and by you I mean the Redskins) are going to hedge your bets and hope a 36 year old coming off a serious, year ending injury can perform to even close to the level he was in 2007? Remember, this is the same Daniels that's had 5.5 sacks in the last 2 seasons he's played. Mind you, the FA class for Defensive Ends right now blows after almost all the serviceable players have been signed.. All that's left is: 33 year old Vonnie Holliday 29 year old Kalimba Edwards 33 year old Ebenezer Ekuban (who had 5 sacks last year for a horrid Denver defense) 34 year old Bert Berry and a few other has beens, and never will be players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 I don't have a problem with bringing back Daniels at 36 because unlike Jason Taylor who is 35 Daniels still seems to have the fire in his belly to compete at this level and be a leader in the locker room. Taylor didn't. Problem is that Taylor has the body and the skills of a player 5 years younger than he is, due to conditioning and lack of injuries in his career. Daniels is an old 35, a player coming off season ending injury with his skill set declining the last 2 years he played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Problem is that Taylor has the body and the skills of a player 5 years younger than he is, due to conditioning and lack of injuries in his career.Daniels is an old 35, a player coming off season ending injury with his skill set declining the last 2 years he played. Your so right, Oldskool. The money to sign Daniels should be spent elsewhere, not on him. I don't care how much of a team leader he is. If that's what they want him here for, then they should just sign him as our Defensive Assistant to the Assitant DL Coach. It wouldn't take away from our cap. He can't play like he used to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Because we spent so much money on AH, we can't afford a 1/2 way decent RT in Ray Willis and other possible moves that could have been made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnhay Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 what's up with "i'm taking it slow, and seeing what happens".......he is still rehabbing and working out at the Skins facility and he isn't under contract by the team.......that's a pretty lousy thing to say to an organization that is showing that they are loyal (sometimes too loyal) too an aging vet coming off of a MAJOR injury such as himself.......its pretty comical whan a 36 year old player with ZERO bargaining leverage with the skins front office IS in fact bargaining and they are putting up with it....... You're a little naive to think that the Redskins sign players out of "loyalty." What possible negotiating criteria is there, for a guy that old and injury prone ?He should just take whatever they offer him. He's not really injury prone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[[ghost]] Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 This would allow us to put orakpo at LB and let him learn the de position naturally. Course his stock is rising fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailGreen28 Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 So you're (and by you I mean the Redskins) are going to hedge your bets and hope a 36 year old coming off a serious, year ending injury can perform to even close to the level he was in 2007? Remember, this is the same Daniels that's had 5.5 sacks in the last 2 seasons he's played.Mind you, the FA class for Defensive Ends right now blows after almost all the serviceable players have been signed.. All that's left is: 33 year old Vonnie Holliday 29 year old Kalimba Edwards 33 year old Ebenezer Ekuban (who had 5 sacks last year for a horrid Denver defense) 34 year old Bert Berry and a few other has beens, and never will be players. At this point, with Evans gone, yes. Better than Vinny overpaying another FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corrupt3d Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Because we spent so much money on AH, we can't afford a 1/2 way decent RT in Ray Willis and other possible moves that could have been made. Aside from the 8 million dollars in cap space we had, or the fact that we gave him an offer but he decided to stay in Seattle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkskin Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Daniels would be a good signing as long as it is cheap. Prior to his injury, he had shown no signs of slowing down, and his strength and conditioning was the big buzz going into last years camp. He's a good physical guy to have for run D, and is a great character guy. Pending his health, I hope a deal can be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 ];6202351']This would allow us to put orakpo at LB and let him learn the de position naturally. Course his stock is rising fast. Orakpo isn't getting past Cleveland at #5. If we go the DE route, we are looking at having Tyson Jackson or Michael Johnson on the board when we pick. :saber: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Aside from the 8 million dollars in cap space we had, or the fact that we gave him an offer but he decided to stay in Seattle. We put most if not all of our eggs in one basket by signing AH. We could have signed Hall, Canty, Brown who can play G, Willis, Boley and been set with some younger decent talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailGreen28 Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 We put most if not all of our eggs in one basket by signing AH. We could have signed Hall, Canty, Brown who can play G, Willis, Boley and been set with some younger decent talent.Do the numbers really match up that well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABSTRACT Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 We put most if not all of our eggs in one basket by signing AH. We could have signed Hall, Canty, Brown who can play G, Willis, Boley and been set with some younger decent talent. If it aint broke, then do not fix it. The DT position was broken and it has been fixed for at least 7 years...PERIOD. Now the DE, LB, and O-line are up next even though the LB and DE positions are not that bad IMO. We will improve that in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justsomeguy Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 I think Marcus should comeback at least 1 more year. He will be cheaper and he is a locker room guy who brings out the best in his people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travdaskin Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Orakpo isn't getting past Cleveland at #5. If we go the DE route, we are looking at having Tyson Jackson or Michael Johnson on the board when we pick.:saber: I put Aaron Maybin over Tyson Jackson, Tyson did nothing at LSU this year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travdaskin Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 I think Marcus should comeback at least 1 more year. He will be cheaper and he is a locker room guy who brings out the best in his people. We should bring back Marcus Washington at vet minimum and bring back Phillip for vet minimum then by then we should have signed either Brown or Barnes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsenic Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 the guy is 36 coming off a major injury... this a great move! sacsam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 I put Aaron Maybin over Tyson Jackson, Tyson did nothing at LSU this year... Maybin weighed 249lbs at the combine. He's not playing DE in any 4-3 scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travdaskin Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Maybin weighed 249lbs at the combine. He's not playing DE in any 4-3 scheme. He is a tweener at OLB and DE, which addresses to positions in one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsenic Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 So you're (and by you I mean the Redskins) are going to hedge your bets and hope a 36 year old coming off a serious, year ending injury can perform to even close to the level he was in 2007? That's definitely a possibiliy. Remember, this is the same Daniels that's had 5.5 sacks in the last 2 seasons he's played. hell yeah high apple pie in the skyyyy hopes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallen5862 Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 I hope that the Redskins can get Daniels back. He would be great for depth. This would also show Haynesworth that the Redskins are loyal to their players. He mentioned the fact that Bucs cut alot of Vets as one reason he didn't sign there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 He is a tweener at OLB and DE, which addresses to positions in one... Uh, no. You don't use 250lb tweeners in a 4-3 scheme, unless they are a situational pass rusher. We need 2 starters. This guy is a 3-4 OLB, and has no future in a 4-3 scheme, unless he goes to a team as a WSLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsenic Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 So you're (and by you I mean the Redskins) are going to hedge your bets and hope a 36 year old coming off a serious, year ending injury can perform to even close to the level he was in 2007? Its a possiblity. Its not a crazy idea as long as he comes thru. He seems to be a great shape. Remember, this is the same Daniels that's had 5.5 sacks in the last 2 seasons he's played. Daniel's was hurt, right? Please dont pick & choose your facts. I apologize if I'm wrongec Mind you, the FA class for Defensive Ends right now blows after almost all the serviceable players have been signed.. All that's left is:33 year old Vonnie Holliday 29 year old Kalimba Edwards 33 year old Ebenezer Ekuban (who had 5 sacks last year for a horrid Denver defense) 34 year old Bert Berry and a few other has beens, and never will be players. Hellzz Yeah! High Apple Pie in the skyyy hopes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Not unexpected, but hopefully we can get Daniels back. Is he old? Yes. Will he be the starter here much longer? No. But after losing Taylor and Evans, even if we get a young guy in the draft we could really use him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Daniel's was hurt, right? Please dont pick & choose your facts. I apologize if I'm wrongec I don't recall Daniels being injured for 2 years straight without missing a game during that time span but I could be wrong. Edit: Here is his injury report INJURIES Date Days Out Injury Jul 22, 2008 0 Torn left ACL Jul 20, 2008 0 Torn left knee ligament Dec 14, 2007 Knee Dec 06, 2007 0 Sprained knee Oct 12, 2007 Shoulder Sep 21, 2007 Foot Sep 14, 2007 Foot Sep 09, 2007 0 Sprained foot Dec 06, 2006 Ankle Nov 22, 2006 Wrist Oct 11, 2006 Back Oct 10, 2006 0 Shoulder Nov 16, 2005 Elbow Nov 09, 2005 Ankle Nov 02, 2005 Ankle Dec 08, 2004 77 Wrist Dec 08, 2004 0 Wrist Dec 01, 2004 Groin Nov 24, 2004 Groin Nov 17, 2004 Groin Nov 10, 2004 Groin Nov 03, 2004 Groin Oct 27, 2004 Groin Oct 13, 2004 Groin Oct 06, 2004 Groin Sep 29, 2004 Groin Sep 22, 2004 Groin Oct 29, 2003 Toe Oct 22, 2003 Toe Oct 02, 2002 Ankle Sep 25, 2002 Ankle Sep 18, 2002 Ankle Sep 11, 2002 Ankle Sep 09, 2002 Sprained ankle Jan 02, 2002 Concussion Dec 05, 2001 Shoulder Dec 02, 2001 Concussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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