RWJ Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 id love for us to snag a starting caliber RT/LT in this draft with the 13th pick. imagine if we signed oher (which kipers latest draft has us taking), our oline next year would be:samuels/dockery/rabach/thomas/oher if rhinehardt gets it together, he can replace thomas, or potentially be the RT (which i think theyre trying him at) and oher could switch to LT when samuels goes. im racking my brains over this. the oline needs youth. At this point I am thinking Oher as well if we stick at #13, but he could probably be had later in the 1st if we trade down. There are some very good LB in the draft so I think our 2nd pick is a LB. Hunter Smith would be a good signing I think we could afford. Hopefully we make a play for him in the upcoming week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jivelikenice Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 I'm hoping we go after Ray Willis. He's young, has very good size, and only gave up 1.5 sacks last season in 10 starts. He also adds great depth to the tackle spot as we would have Jansen and Heyer backing up next season.... Signing him would also allow us to go Mualuaga/ Orakpo/ E Brown/ or Aaron Maybin.... 1. Sign Ray Willis 2. Draft the best Linebacker prospect available at #13 3. Draft the best o-line prospect on the board in Round 3 Call it a day.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavarleap56 Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 my advice just relax and get ready for the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsteelz Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 now there is some good advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jujuskinsfan Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 I think the next move should be simple enough sign Carney or Stover, we need a clutch Kicker who can make important Field Goals. I agree 100%! A top quality kicker is a priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 my advice just relax and get ready for the draft. Amen. Lets cool it for a couple of weeks. We've done enough. We can do what we need to in the draft hopefully, and then sign a FA kicker sometime before training camp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 i still think we should cut taylor, free up 8 million in cap space, and sign a bunch of tier 2 guys. willis would be awesome, and if we can snag crowell for cheap, or another linebacker that isnt gonna cost a fortune, that would be awesome. Why do we need more change? Willis and Crowell are far from sure things and they will probably cost more together than Taylor does. We've made some good moves, lets not put any more strain on our continuity than we have to. And we definitely shouldn't sign a guy like Willis before we see what happens in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindlywewander Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 I'm hoping we go after Ray Willis. He's young, has very good size, and only gave up 1.5 sacks last season in 10 starts. He also adds great depth to the tackle spot as we would have Jansen and Heyer backing up next season....Signing him would also allow us to go Mualuaga/ Orakpo/ E Brown/ or Aaron Maybin.... 1. Sign Ray Willis 2. Draft the best Linebacker prospect available at #13 3. Draft the best o-line prospect on the board in Round 3 Call it a day.... this. exactly this. i am praying this is what the skins do. ray willis could come in and start imo. if not immediately, he'd be good when jansen/heyer blows the start. that way we can get maualuga. as far as orakpo or maybin, i don't like it. converting a player to LB who's been a DE his whole life usually takes time. i'd rather have mauluga cause he knows how to play the position and dominate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 as far as orakpo or maybin, i don't like it. converting a player to LB who's been a DE his whole life usually takes time. Orakpo is a guy who knows how to rush the passer. Regardless of what you call him on the depth chart, that's what he'll be doing for some team in the NFL. He could easily make the switch to OLB in the Skins scheme. Especially with BigAl in the middle. Certainly Orakpo would play the role of a DE on 3rd and long, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswerdlw Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Besides Smith, are there any other FA punters out there? If not, I hope we sign him to a reasonable contract. I'm for taking Michael Oher or Andre Smith with our first round pick. If not, then we go for Maualuga or the best OLB available. I have this funny feeling, though, that Vinny and co. might be looking at a CB now that Springs is gone and there's no guarantee that Rogers will be with the team after next year. I hope that they wait until the 5th round to take the CB, which would be fine with me. I don't want Tryon as our nickel if Rogers, Hall or Smoot is injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dondrae474 Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 I hope we turn our attention to the draft and maybe have one other free agent signing down the road. By that time guys will realize their true value and might not command such a high salary. I am excited about next year and hope that the uncapped year does a lot to fix our cap situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoot Point Really Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Restructure Jason Taylor and hope for an uncapped year to cut him in... Cut all our old guys in an uncapped year (including Randy Thomas, who is too expensive for any guard even though he is really great). Get some young depth along the OL (and develop some of the youth we already have there). Draft Orakpo, Oher, or RM... get a kicker and punter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NattyLight Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 i still think we should cut taylor, free up 8 million in cap space, and sign a bunch of tier 2 guys. willis would be awesome, and if we can snag crowell for cheap, or another linebacker that isnt gonna cost a fortune, that would be awesome. Half of me wants to agree with you, but just think of the potential this defense would have if Jason was retained and played to his ability. The Sickness my friend. I agree with the above poster regarding a kicker, but I would much prefer a PR specialist. I don't really know of any available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Other then JT restructuring to get Dockery signed (so far they've only agreed to terms) & be under the cap, we're done with Free Agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sens11 Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 I agree 100%! A top quality kicker is a priority. Amen. Lets cool it for a couple of weeks. We've done enough. We can do what we need to in the draft hopefully, and then sign a FA kicker sometime before training camp my advice just relax and get ready for the draft. That's right. No need for a complete overhaul of the roster. The signings made thus far have been quite productive. Let's get ready for the draft and minicamp.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsTerps26 Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 I think our RT situation will be handled in the draft, But I really think we are weak at OLB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABSTRACT Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 We need to pick up Ray Willis and use #13 for Orakpo because he can alternate LB/DE with JAson Taylor and take Jason Taylor's position when he leaves. JT can also put him under his wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABSTRACT Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 FA-Ray Willis Draft-Orakpo, O-lineman, O-lineman, CB or LB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsfor4 Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Willis and RM would work with me as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Veteran WR: Think about it if Thomas and Kelly play like last season the whole year just like that likely goes up in smoke. What did we score like 10 points a game in the home stretch? For the moment, Zorn doesn't strike me that he has the imagination as a play caller to do more with less. So IMO we need some talent to make things happen. I'd hedge our bets just a little and take veteran WR if we can get one cheap: Toomer, Engram, Harrison, Bryant Johnson or whomever comes cheap. Right OT -- either via the draft or perhaps Willis Draft a guard -- it seems like the reports are Rinehart at best isn't ready at worst is a bust. Stuff happens, then draft another one. If Randy Thomas goes down, and judging by the last 4 years, 50% chance that will happen -- we have Fabini starting. Draft a LB -- I disagree with the post about there not being much going on with the draft at that position: Besides Curry who was mentioned you got Cushing, Matthews and some good potential 2nd rounders in Stintin, English, etc Seems like teams all the time reshuffle veteran punters and kickers -- why can't we grab a veteran for a change as opposed to an undrafted FA or a player that's been released for not cutting it with someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rypien1191 Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Pretty sure we don't have enough $$ left, even for Ray Willis, who will get more $$ than people think. If one of the top 4 OTs are there at #13, we'll take them, otherwise Orakpo... If they're ALL gone, we'll try and trade down. I'd love to take Orakpo at #13, package our 3rd, 5th, and 6th and try to land a 2nd round pick and take Loadholt, Britton, or Mack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gswami Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 I know it is hard to trade down in the draft but I would be a big fan of dropping down to the 23-28 pick range in the first round. The draft value chart would have us picking up a middle round 2nd pick in this case. Then with our first pick grab Britton or Beatty to compete with Heyer for the RT spot, second round pick up Connor Barwin whose numbers and stature are very similar to orapko, and in the 3rd pick up Wood or one of the other top centers to compete with Rabach. FA should be preety much done for us. Grab a couple of low level FA that will come cheap and add to our depth. Maualuga would be a great pick but would he even play this year...does he have the speed to play the strong side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsAllDay34 Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 I'm hoping we go after Ray Willis. He's young, has very good size, and only gave up 1.5 sacks last season in 10 starts. He also adds great depth to the tackle spot as we would have Jansen and Heyer backing up next season....Signing him would also allow us to go Mualuaga/ Orakpo/ E Brown/ or Aaron Maybin.... 1. Sign Ray Willis 2. Draft the best Linebacker prospect available at #13 3. Draft the best o-line prospect on the board in Round 3 Call it a day.... AMEN TO THAT A front 7 of Carter/Haynesworth/Monty/Taylor 13th pick/ Fletcher/ Rocky Thats sweet, with our secondary all young and talented...i am drooling, now about that offense. Man i wish that we could just fast foward to the draft, i'm getting too excited here. If we get Willis, I will kiss vinny if i see him....maybe not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiyadukes Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 I love the big signings. We finally addressed some of the teams biggest holes. However, there still are a few that need to filled. Here are other areas that need to be addressed. 1. Kicker and Punter. This is a area that we were in the bottom 5 in both categories. They were very inconsistant all year 2. More depth on both lines. Got 2 great players but injuries always happen. We will need guys to be able to step up. 3. Punt returner. Randle El just is not getting it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laxpunk2006 Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 this. exactly this. i am praying this is what the skins do. ray willis could come in and start imo. if not immediately, he'd be good when jansen/heyer blows the start. that way we can get maualuga. as far as orakpo or maybin, i don't like it. converting a player to LB who's been a DE his whole life usually takes time. i'd rather have mauluga cause he knows how to play the position and dominate it. I'm not trying to pick on you, but what makes you say this? I know there's been a lot of Ray Willis love recently because Schefter or one of those guys mentioned it as a possibility. I get the Seattle connection, and yes he does have a few NFL starts but so do Jansen/Heyer. Seattle's offense was pretty awful last year. I believe they had some injuries but I recall hearing their line was a weak point. If Seattle isn't working to get him back, how good can he really be? Has anyone on this board asking for him watched him play before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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