killerbee99 Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Just saw the movie on Showtime HD, is the health care system in our Nation really that messed up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killerbee99 Posted February 9, 2009 Author Share Posted February 9, 2009 Seriously, this is some scary stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Just saw the movie on Showtime HD, is the health care system in our Nation really that messed up ugh, that isn't one of those Michael Moore movies is it? :puke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackest Eyes Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 I think Michael Moore also makes the other countries healthcare systems look better than they really are. I know people in both France and Canada that despise their health care systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMike619 Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 paging dr keeastman. dr keeastman to the podium please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 It's all true. No part of that movie was emphasized or edited to prove the point of the creator. Cuba has the world's best health care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killerbee99 Posted February 9, 2009 Author Share Posted February 9, 2009 It's all true. No part of that movie was emphasized or edited to prove the point of the creator. Cuba has the world's best health care. Hey I was just asking.....how americans are getting denied healthcare insurance left and right....like seriously.....AMA buying of senators. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toe Jam Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 There is some truth in the movie. But.. that doesn't mean the alternatives are necessarily better. Moore has an agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 paging dr keeastman. dr keeastman to the podium please. Oh shut up Mike, lol. To be honest, I can't really even speak to the movie as I only made it about 10 minutes in before totally going off on a rant to my roommates about how manipulative and misleading it was...at which point I think we changed the channel to "The Girls Next Door" or something equally as mentally stimulating. Our overall healthcare system is broken, especially regarding access to care for the general population. But the smarmy way Moore goes about propagandizing this issue (as well as other issues) with his documentaries really pisses me off. And his crap about Cuba is absurd. Whenever I Moore is brought up, I still remember when one of my friends said he'd be in favor of paying for high-velocity transcortical lead therapy for Moore, lol. Really bad, but I laughed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killerbee99 Posted February 9, 2009 Author Share Posted February 9, 2009 Actually, come to think about it, my wife twisted her ankle Chritmas eve on our slick driveway....went to the emergency room, 1 hour wait, did an x ray said it was a slight strain, and later we received a bill saying that visit cost Almost $700 and that our insurance covered only 550 and I had to pay the difference...$700 for a freaking ankle sprain.....this country's health care system is broken.....period Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Hey I was just asking.....how americans are getting denied healthcare insurance left and right....like seriously.....AMA buying of senators. Wow. Seriously though... there is more truth in this movie than in any other Michael Moore movie. I've seen 'em all and this one is the most unbiased he's made. That said, it's still incredibly biased and there was a lot of editing involved. There is something to say about the companies that are taking your money and are in charge of your health and well being. They need to maximize profits. Does this mean substandard care? Maybe, maybe not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killerbee99 Posted February 9, 2009 Author Share Posted February 9, 2009 Just watching this movie makes me realize that a national health care system might not be a bad idea for this country. But will the greedy health care HMO's and their lobbyists let this fly or start railing about America becoming a communist country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Actually, come to think about it, my wife twisted her ankle Chritmas eve on our slick driveway....went to the emergency room, 1 hour wait, did an x ray said it was a slight strain, and later we received a bill saying that visit cost Almost $700 and that our insurance covered only 550 and I had to pay the difference...$700 for a freaking ankle sprain.....this country's health care system is broken.....period A $150 copay on an ER visit including an x-ray is actually really inexpensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Seriously though... there is more truth in this movie than in any other Michael Moore movie. I've seen 'em all and this one is the most unbiased he's made. That said, it's still incredibly biased and there was a lot of editing involved.There is something to say about the companies that are taking your money and are in charge of your health and well being. They need to maximize profits. Does this mean substandard care? Maybe, maybe not. Actually I'd say Bowling for Columbine was a pretty bias-free movie. I really liked that one. Fahrenheit 9/11 got my blood boiling as a raging lib:silly:, but it wasn't that good of a movie. I haven't actually seen Sicko yet, but I might check it out at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 What do you think happens when you place health in the free market? Maintenance drugs and insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 A $150 copay on an ER visit including an x-ray is actually really inexpensive. I pay $50 for ER visits. I've only been once in 8 years. But oh wait... I pay $250 a month for my damn health care. Goddamn crooks if you ask me. Actually I'd say Bowling for Columbine was a pretty bias-free movie. I really liked that one. Fahrenheit 9/11 got my blood boiling as a raging lib:silly:, but it wasn't that good of a movie. I haven't actually seen Sicko yet, but I might check it out at some point. Bowling for Columbine wasn't all that bad... unless you like guns. I found it rather humorous and more of a comedy at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toe Jam Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 A $150 copay on an ER visit including an x-ray is actually really inexpensive. You got that right. You got good coverage, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 What do you think happens when you place health in the free market? Maintenance drugs and insurance. Let's not forget... increasing profits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Profits + Your Health = Not good mix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renaissance Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Actually I'd say Bowling for Columbine was a pretty bias-free movie. I really liked that one. Fahrenheit 9/11 got my blood boiling as a raging lib:silly:, but it wasn't that good of a movie. I haven't actually seen Sicko yet, but I might check it out at some point. IMO Bowling for Columbine was a good movie with several valid points that get missed by people who write Moore off as a smarmy d-bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toe Jam Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 IMO Bowling for Columbine was a good movie with several valid points that get missed by people who write Moore off as a smarmy d-bag. Ever see Roger and Me? That was probably his best work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killerbee99 Posted February 9, 2009 Author Share Posted February 9, 2009 A $150 copay on an ER visit including an x-ray is actually really inexpensive. Yeah I have tricare insurance with the military Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renaissance Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Ever see Roger and Me?That was probably his best work. Nah, I will check that out though...it's about the auto industry and his hometown, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 I pay $50 for ER visits. I've only been once in 8 years. But oh wait... I pay $250 a month for my damn health care. Goddamn crooks if you ask me. I'm not saying otherwise. I'm not defending the insurance companies here. I'm saying $150 is not a lot for an ER visit. I'm also saying drawing the conclusion that our system is broken based on a $150 ER copay is a bit ridiculous. That's not even the tip of the iceberg of our healthcare problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 IMO Bowling for Columbine was a good movie with several valid points that get missed by people who write Moore off as a smarmy d-bag. I agree. There wasn't really much in there that was supporting gun bans or anything like that. It was more of a look at our society. I don't think NRA people appreciated it though. This coming from a raging lib gun nut (random combo, I know). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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