Chachie Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090113/ap_on_fe_st/odd_cutting_in_line Dad, son arrested after cop said they cut line Tue Jan 13, 6:06 pm ET MUNCIE, Ind. – A 26-year-old man and his father were arrested after an off-duty Muncie police officer complained about the man cutting in line at a Wal-Mart store. Police reports said Edward R. Pluhar Jr. of Frankfort cut to the front of the line at the Wal-Mart service desk Sunday. What he didn't know was that Officer Chris Kirby was waiting in the line. Kirby said Pluhar refused when Kirby asked him to wait his turn. Pluhar's father, 61-year-old Edward R. Pluhar Sr., then asked Kirby if he wanted to step outside. That's when Kirby reportedly told the men he was a police officer. Kirby followed the men into the parking lot where they scuffled. Other officers arrived and arrested both Pluhars. They were released after posting bond. Pluhar Sr., however, gave a different version of events leading up to his arrest. "There's a lot more to the story," he said. He said his son had waited in line for 25 minutes once and been sent by a clerk to exchange an item. When he returned, Pluhar Sr. said the clerk waved his son to the front of the line, and Kirby objected. He said his son tried to explain the situation, but Kirby insulted him, at which point Pluhar Sr. asked Kirby to step outside but Kirby laughed at him. Pluhar Sr. also denied Kirby's claim that the older man threatened to shoot him. He said he and his son tried to walk away from the confrontation, but Kirby followed them outside. Pluhar Sr. said Kirby never identified himself as a police officer and he only found out he was an officer from other police at the scene. "What I did was wrong, but that doesn't make what he did right," Pluhar said. Edward R. Pluhar Jr. was preliminarily charged with battery on a police officer, while his father was arrested on charges of intimidation and criminal recklessness with a weapon. Police said Pluhar backed into Kirby's leg as he attempted to leave the parking lot while Kirby was standing behind the vehicle. Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techboy Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 So he wasn't really arrested for cutting in line at all, then, but for what he did when he was asked not to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 hmm... Doesn't smell right to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanCollins Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 somebody's lying, usually it's polled lice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
81artmonk Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 This happens all the time to me at Wal-mart. I exchange something and the clerk tells me to get what I want and just come to the register. I wasn't there, but since this is SOP at wal-mart, it makes me wonder what about the cops story isn't jiving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21DIEHARDSKINSFAN21 Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 a off duty cop cant arreset nobody... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DButz65 Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 a off duty cop cant arreset nobody... You dont know police procedures/rules very well do you? Go ahead and try one sometime and break a law or two lol You're young and you'll learn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10fttall Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Put everything together, sounds pretty obvious what happened. Self-righteous cop either misses or arrives too late to see the "line cuters" had already been to the front. He starts to raise hell. I don't believe he said anything about being an officer. He follows them out and I'm sure, gave as good as he got with the verbal assault and intimidation. Then the guys are trying to leave and the cop does the old "I'm standing behind your car so you can't leave." then he gets tapped. The guys probably STILL didn't know he's an officer, just some whacked out a-hole. I wouldn't sit in my car all day just because some nut is standing behind me. I'd gently move back and remind him of the Law of Gross Tonnage. Even if the Pluhar's had some technically "illegal" words with the officer, there's no way this should see the courtroom. They were doing nothing wrong and suddenly confronted by some asshat making a scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
81artmonk Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 a off duty cop cant arreset nobody... Oh yeah they can. I have a friend who is a high ranking sheriff and some of the best stories he has, come from when he is off duty and people want to F with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiebear Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 This is how it really was with the common sense test: In line: Told to go somewhere else: Do that and come back to front of line. off duty cop irritated at being in line for 20minutes ALSO tells them to move back. Doesn't want to hear their crap about already being in line.. then these two people have the nerve to talk back to an off duty cop and it the cop follows them outside instigating the fight. This is going nowhere fast after it goes to court. Cop should be reprimanded for causing an incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 I'm going with Tbear and 10ft here and yes off duty cops can arrest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrumanB Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Line cutters should be beaten with a billy club. Same thing for those a-holes that drive on the shoulder of the highway to get around traffic. But, this story sounds like a guy with a badge that wanted to throw his weight around. Nothing worse than an off-duty cop with a self-righteous attitude and a point to prove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLJ Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 the cop sounds like he is full of :censored: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrfriedm Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Doesn't seem to add up to me. I always try to give Police officers the benefit of the doubt, but I'm having hard time doing so here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markmx Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 a off duty cop cant arreset nobody... I think the only difference is that they need to call another officer to actually transfer a suspect. All the cops I know carry there badge and gun with them everywhere they go for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 I'm going to assume that the Walmart clerks behind the counter and the others standing in line could back up one of these stories lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky21 Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 the cop sounds like he is full of shlt+5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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