gbear Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 I'm actually in the market for a computer now, prebuilt up to a point. I can put in more memory or a graphics card. I've put in wireless cards on my old computers too. The kicker for me is I want it to be a computer I can play games on. Currently, I'm still addicted to World of Warcraft, but I'm playing it on a 7 year old computer I've upgraded as far as it will go...and it's bombing out on me all the time. I'm looking for a computer that I'll be able to upgrade over time so I can still play. price to spend for computer & monitor, $1000. Any advice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorresA Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 I'm actually in the market for a computer now, prebuilt up to a point. I can put in more memory or a graphics card. I've put in wireless cards on my old computers too. The kicker for me is I want it to be a computer I can play games on. Currently, I'm still addicted to World of Warcraft, but I'm playing it on a 7 year old computer I've upgraded as far as it will go...and it's bombing out on me all the time. I'm looking for a computer that I'll be able to upgrade over time so I can still play.price to spend for computer & monitor, $1000. Any advice? I been in the market for a new computer last few months. I was looking at buying an HP or other computer on Black Friday. Specs looked good with CPU and ammount of RAM. But be warned their Power supplies are not big and the few that I was looking at didn't have PCIe slots so I wouldn't be able to install my own Video card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfitzo53 Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 I'm actually in the market for a computer now, prebuilt up to a point. I can put in more memory or a graphics card. I've put in wireless cards on my old computers too. The kicker for me is I want it to be a computer I can play games on. Currently, I'm still addicted to World of Warcraft, but I'm playing it on a 7 year old computer I've upgraded as far as it will go...and it's bombing out on me all the time. I'm looking for a computer that I'll be able to upgrade over time so I can still play.price to spend for computer & monitor, $1000. Any advice? Meaningful incremental upgrades can be hard to plan for since slot standards and things like that change over time. As you've obviously noticed, you can't really keep a 7-year-old computer up to date just by changing a part here and there. However, there are a few things you can look for to make sure that your machine is as flexible as possible. First, don't buy one of the slim or small form factor PCs because a gaming video card won't fit. You also, as torresa said, need a computer with a PCI-e x16 slot. PCI-e x1 won't do. Second, if you have the option, buy a PC with four RAM slots instead of just two. Last, but certainly not least, your computer needs a good power supply. Dell and HP cut their PCs fairly close from a power standpoint, and that limits your upgrade options. Usually you have to go with something like an XPS on the Dell side to get a power supply that will accomodate a future video card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOF44 Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 The word on the street is that prices are dropping on Intel's quad core line at the end of the month. Is this the i7 processors? Will have to go over the details of the editing programs and see which can use 64 bit and quad processors. Seems like that will be key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warpath11 Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 The computer I use at work is a beast (though a Mac) - Two 3.2GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon "Harpertown” processors (8-core) - 32GB of 800MHz DDR2 fully buffered ECC memory - 4 300GB 15,000-rpm SAS hard drives - NVIDIA Quadro FX 5600 1.5GB - 2 Apple Cinema HD Display (30" flat panel) It is a brand new computer we here use to run our digital microscopy suite...It cost well over 20K as far as I can recall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorresA Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Questions to all, do you think a 480 Watt PSU enough to run this system? Mobo - ASUS M3A79-T 790FX CPU - AMD Phenom II 940 RAM - 8 gigs Crucial Ballistix Video card - Asus Radeon 4850 512 MB Hard drives - two 75 gig Raptors RAID 0 for OS - 300 gig Maxtor - 1 TB Western Digital NEC DVD RW Monitors - two 22" Westinghouse (one sale Best Buy Black Friday) I guess I will find out tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Punani Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Questions to all, do you think a 480 Watt PSU enough to run this system? I guess I will find out tomorrow Even with the power reduction of the Phenom II you are cutting it close. I would get at least a 700 Watt PSU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbear Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 How's this? http://www.amazon.com/Pavilion-M9500F-Desktop-Quad-Core-Processor/dp/tech-data/B001NXDBGI/ref=de_a_smtd I can get another power supply later on if I need it. I replaced the one on my old computer too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorresA Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Even with the power reduction of the Phenom II you are cutting it close. I would get at least a 700 Watt PSU. I figured I was it would be close, but wanted to hold out on PSU to save some cash, and buy a new one when I decide to go Crossfire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Prime Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 I agree with this, nothing comes close to Intel's i7. But at certain price points they are still competitive. The cheapest i7 costs more than the most expensive AMD. I may have gone i7 but the price for motherboard and RAM wasn't friendly to my wallet. Phenom II's come really close, doesn't beat it, but they do come really close in benchmarks.. At about 100 bucks less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Guy. Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 Questions to all, do you think a 480 Watt PSU enough to run this system? I guess I will find out tomorrow I'm running a similar setup (power wise) on a 500w Antec PSU. Hell it ran two 8800GT's in SLI for a while without any hiccup. It depends on how many amps are available on the 12v rail and if the PSU is a quality unit. Regardless though it wouldn't hurt to upgrade... you know you will have to eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfitzo53 Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 I guess I will find out tomorrow Exactly what make and model is your PSU? It should boot up without any problems. Whether it will handle the computer running at full load depends on a lot of things. You don't need 700W though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorresA Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Exactly what make and model is your PSU? It should boot up without any problems. Whether it will handle the computer running at full load depends on a lot of things.You don't need 700W though. Antec True Blue 480 http://www.extremeoverclocking.com/reviews/cases/Antec_TrueBlue_480W_1.html http://www.antec.com/ec/productDetails.php?ProdID=07483 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfitzo53 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 ATI specifies a 450W PSU for the 4850, so you're probably fine, although 28A on the 12V rail is a little light these days. How long has the PSU been in service? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorresA Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 ATI specifies a 450W PSU for the 4850, so you're probably fine, although 28A on the 12V rail is a little light these days. How long has the PSU been in service? no idea, I've had it a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskinsfan85 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Great prebuilt computer available for local pick up @ bestbuy http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9081325&type=product&id=1218017465909 i7, 3gb, 750gb hd, 4850, etc etc for $1249. I'm not much into buying prebuilt but that's a VERY good system for the price. my specs p5n-e sli 8gb crucial 300gb velociraptor lain li case hx520 ps 8800gt 512mb creative audigy 2zs tv tuner e8400 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfitzo53 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 It's not a bad price, but I wouldn't call it amazing. That might not be a bad choice for you for your video editing Bob, although the graphics card is more powerful than you need. You should be able to put together a system that does what you want for $1000 or less easily. The advantage of a prebuilt is that it comes with a monitor and OS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorresA Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 ATI specifies a 450W PSU for the 4850, so you're probably fine, although 28A on the 12V rail is a little light these days. How long has the PSU been in service? well it looks likes i found my answer with my computer.. Old PSU won't even fit on new Mobo :doh: . My PSU only has a 20 pin connector for motherboard, and the board needs 24 pin + 4 pin for CPU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfitzo53 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 well it looks likes i found my answer with my computer.. Old PSU won't even fit on new Mobo :doh: . My PSU only has a 20 pin connector for motherboard, and the board needs 24 pin + 4 pin for CPU Here are two good options: PC Power & Cooling 500W for $50 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703015 Corsair 550VX http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139004 The Corsair is more expensive, but you should be able to find a better price on it if you shop around. The PCP&C power supply is also an older model if I'm not mistaken. Either one should power your computer just fine, but the 550VX has more available amperage on the 12V rail which may be nice to have if you upgrade the video card in the future. You could go even higher, and both companies have good offerings in the 600-700W range as well, but you don't really need to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorresA Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 I going local.. I am tired of this and want my machine up and running now.... may look buying off newegg and returning local one, I'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfitzo53 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 The problem with brick & mortar stores is that they're generally overpriced, although MicroCenter has had some pretty aggressive sales recently, and Fry's typically has some good deals if there's one near you. Best Buy for example is a terrible place to get a PSU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorresA Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 I just got my PSU and my new Rig is up and running, Windows 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 If anyone is interested in building me a nice box, I'd love to hear from you. My current PC is a HP from 2003 and it stinks. PM me if you're interested in a small side project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorresA Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Ok finally done. I got my new PSU in. 750 watt Corsair Power Supply. rest specs same as on page 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Damn 8800's are elitist cards. 2 people I spoke to before I entered this thread used that...and now I see the top post. My specs are 2.2 ghz ancient processor 1 gig ram Integrated Video (although the new card comes tomorrow) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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