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Cook up? Explain please...

yeah, if you got something against a person you can twist words, interpret things the wrong way if you so feel.

i highly doubt that anyone put this girl up to it but you also can understand why they would want this to be exposed when it happened. it looked like someone jumped that girl, robbed and sexually assaulted her all because she had a Mccain sticker on her car. initial reports said that and we all agreed on it.

now that its different and she is a ****ing LOON we are supposed to be pissed at McCains group for exposing and pointing them in that direction?

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yeah, if you got something against a person you can twist words, interpret things the wrong way if you so feel.

i highly doubt that anyone put this girl up to it but you also can understand why they would want this to be exposed when it happened. it looked like someone jumped that girl, robbed and sexually assaulted her all because she had a Mccain sticker on her car. initial reports said that and we all agreed on it.

now that its different and she is a ****ing LOON we are supposed to be pissed at McCains group for exposing and pointing them in that direction?

I think what Cooked Crack is getting at is the fact that McCain's PA campaign director apparently put out the info before it had been fully investigated by the police. :2cents:

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I think what Cooked Crack is getting at is the fact that McCain's PA campaign director apparently put out the info before it had been fully investigated. :2cents:

so she jumped the gun and now were questioning honor?

come on now...that had the potential to be huge. we all were shocked by it and it was on the news anyways. if that person didnt report it someone else would have picked up on it anyways.

i say jumped the gun slightly but not dishonorable.

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so she jumped the gun and now were questioning honor?

come on now...that had the potential to be huge. we all were shocked by it and it was on the news anyways. if that person didnt report it someone else would have picked up on it anyways.

i say jumped the gun slightly but not dishonorable.

Hey, I have no opinion on this. I was just stating what I think Cooked Crack was getting at. :)

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so she jumped the gun and now were questioning honor?

come on now...that had the potential to be huge. we all were shocked by it and it was on the news anyways. if that person didnt report it someone else would have picked up on it anyways.

i say jumped the gun slightly but not dishonorable.

It had the potential to be huge because it would stir up racial division. We were all shocked when we heard about it till some factual information came out. Even I could smell BS after I saw the picture of a backwards B. So they were basically spreading a racial rumor hoping to turn people away from Barack. No one knew what the story was but let me continue by telling every reporter what happened.

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Did the Obama camp push out a story about one of their volunteers getting attacked? I don't remember seeing it on national TV

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It had the potential to be huge because it would stir up racial division. We were all shocked when we heard about it till some factual information came out. Even I could smell BS after I saw the picture of a backwards B. So they were basically spreading a racial rumor hoping to turn people away from Barack. No one knew what the story was but let me continue by telling every reporter what happened.

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Did the Obama camp push out a story about one of their volunteers getting attacked? I don't remember seeing it on national TV

like I said, jumped the gun. The girl turned out to be a loon but I guarantee you thats what she told them. Its their job to try and disrupt the other campaign's momentum and this would have done it.

youre reaching waaaaaay too hard on this one.

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like I said, jumped the gun. The girl turned out to be a loon but I guarantee you thats what she told them. Its their job to try and disrupt the other campaign's momentum and this would have done it.

youre reaching waaaaaay too hard on this one.

So it's their job to spread a race baiting rumor? You actually think this girl made her attacker to be a big black man for no reason? You know exactly why they were pushing this story without any facts. They were praying it was true and would cost Obama some votes with whites who felt uncomfortable with Obama.

If they were so proud of it why are they denying they even made those claims and blame sloppy reporting.

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It had the potential to be huge because it would stir up racial division. We were all shocked when we heard about it till some factual information came out. Even I could smell BS after I saw the picture of a backwards B. So they were basically spreading a racial rumor hoping to turn people away from Barack. No one knew what the story was but let me continue by telling every reporter what happened.

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Did the Obama camp push out a story about one of their volunteers getting attacked? I don't remember seeing it on national TV

They couldn't. That would be playing the race card.

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So it's their job to spread a race baiting rumor? You actually think this girl made her attacker to be a big black man for no reason? You know exactly why they were pushing this story without any facts. They were praying it was true and would cost Obama some votes with whites who felt uncomfortable with Obama.

If they were so proud of it why are they denying they even made those claims and blame sloppy reporting.

if it is truth like it was presented it isnt racist. it is truth.

truth as EVERYONE was told. white girl attacked by black man, beaten up, sexually assaulted and a B carved in her face for the McCain sticker. You can remove the black and white and its still a story that would be pushed. just because the facts made it like that dont try to make it like the mccain group was trying to race bait.

thats the job of certain few on ES...

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what do you mean?

Meaning that if the Obama camp had said such an act was due to race they would be accused of using the race card and away we go carrying a red herring. Obama knew from the beginning that anything that diverts voters attention from the real issues is a losing proposition for him. For that reason the Obama camp has not to my knowledge ever claimed that there were any race problems at all with regard to his campaign. The closest thing I can think of is his comment that he doesn't look like other Presidents. Race is the last thing he wants to talk about.

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Appropriate sex education for kindigarteners is to tell kids nobody should be touching them or making them feel uncomfortable; and if that happens tell your parrents, a teacher, or a policeman..

McCain made it sound like he was passing out condems to kindingartners.

more double standards, It's hard to bash a guy for using the same cliche McCain has used against Hillary.

I didnt quote McCain: I quoted OBAMA. He clarified himself to get to that quote that still has issues... Where babies come from was part of it. Don't tell them storks... o.k. its fairfax Vagina. I have a 1st grader this year, I remember what he said. Its not appropriate for Sex to be brought up to 5 year olds.

AND I say again: the crowd behind Obama during the pause in his saying KNEW EXACTLY what he meant. not the same thing as was said before.

It was fresh and directed at Palin. Everyone knows it was.

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I could give you five this week.... Here are a few of McCain's/Palin's dishonorable false acusations over the last year which I can name off the top of my head..

  1. Obama is an Elitest (anyone who runs for President is?)
  2. Obama is a Racist (he did bring up the race card first, and said his grandmother was your typical white person).
  3. Obama isn't a Christian (When was this?)
  4. Obama isn't an American (this is debatable if his kenyan Grandmother that said she saw him born in Kenya is to be believed) Have you seen his original birth cert?

  5. Obama is a Muslim (Not true that i know of)
  6. Obama is a Socialist (Is true that i know of)
  7. Obama is a Marxist (befriended 3 Marxist teachers and talked about it in his book, so there are some leanings there)
  8. Obama is a Communist (no)
  9. Obama is a black insurgent trying to take money from whites to give to blacks. (he just wants to make sure the people behind JTP have a chance also) But the insurgent part: No.
  10. Obama hates Israel (definitely not a fan of israel)

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McCain has run a honerable campaign so far. Like I have been saying has he brought up Rev. Wright at all?

Ironically, I think that is the one association issue that is fair and real to question. It was a long and strong relationship, Wright was a mentor and involved in his wedding and the language and the language and type of message that comes from this Church that obviously resonated with Obama to a certain degree tells us something about him. It informs us about what he believes or what he condones. I think Wright was a legit issue.

It's interesting that that was the one line that McCain didn't cross. I don't think that McCain wanted to talk about Ayers either, but Obama called him out pre-debate and McCain went for the bait. Prior to that, Palin and surrogates talked about it, but McCain himself stayed above that level of discourse.

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