Cooked Crack Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Democrats are circulating a poll showing Sen. John McCain losing ground in his home state of Arizona, an ominous sign for his beleaguered campaign as state after state turns blue. Project New West, which aims to build the Democratic Party in the Intermountain West, says the Republican leads Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) in the Grand Canyon State, 48 percent to 44 percent. The pollsters call that a “dramatic shift” from a survey they took in mid-September, which had McCain ahead by 14 points, 54 percent to 40 percent. “Bad News for McCain: Presidential Contest in Arizona has Closed in Arizona And McCain Now Leads By Just 4 Points,” says a memo from pollsters Andrew Myers of Myers Research and Strategic Services and Lisa Grove of Grove Research. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14942.html The new AZ Rasmussen poll has McCain at +5. One month ago he was @ +21. I don't think Obama will take Arizona but it would be sweet if he could. His message is definitely resonating out west. Obama is just a state flipping machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 I doubt it and I would hate for him to lose Arizona. Senator McCain is an honorable man and doesn't deserve to be embarassed. I just believe he is not the right man at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoleSkin21 Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 No chance. But he will lose FL, OH, VA, and CO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickalino Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 But he will lose FL, OH, VA, and CO. Florida is far from a lock for Obama. I can't speak for the other states, but I CAN speak for my home state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 No chance. But he will lose FL, OH, VA, and CO. Doesn't he have a big lead in CO? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expensivegift Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Linking to Politico is like your conservative counterpart linking to Fox News Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpyaks3 Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Doesn't he have a big lead in CO? He has roughly a 7 to 8 point lead in Colorado, same for Virginia, in Florida he is slightly ahead but not by more than 3 or so points. I think Virginia, Colorado, New Mexico, Iowa and Nevada flip for sure. I think there is a very good chance for North Carolina to flip, and Ohio and Florida are both leaning Obama. Missouri and Indiana are pretty much even right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted October 27, 2008 Author Share Posted October 27, 2008 Linking to Politico is like your conservative counterpart linking to Fox News If I linked to Huffington Post then you would have an argument. Either way the three most recent AZ polls show McCain leading from 2 to 5 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexey Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 I doubt it and I would hate for him to lose Arizona. Senator McCain is an honorable man and doesn't deserve to be embarassed. I just believe he is not the right man at this time. I feel bad for McCain, but I think it would be good for America if the electorate taught him a lesson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMS Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 I was out in Arizona just before the Republican convention. McCain had to cancel a fund raiser with President Bush in Phoenix due to lack of interest.... They moved it from the Sun's stadium to a private residence. I think McCain could definitely loose Arizona, I also think McCain could loose his re-election bid next time he runs for the senate. The one thing McCain had going for him was his common sense, good judgement and decency. I think he's lost all of those assets in the last few years. McCain made a concious decision to turn away from heart felt beliefs and the countries interests in exchange for the Republican nomination. The country may never forgive him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expensivegift Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 If I linked to Huffington Post then you would have an argument. haha you're in denial if you think Politico is not a liberal rag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosperity Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 I doubt it and I would hate for him to lose Arizona. Senator McCain is an honorable man and doesn't deserve to be embarassed. I just believe he is not the right man at this time. this isn't a kindergarden dodgeball game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydevil Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Unlikely, but man it would be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted October 27, 2008 Author Share Posted October 27, 2008 haha you're in denial if you think Politico is not a liberal rag Even if you think it leans left it isn't has bad as Fox News. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 this isn't a kindergarden dodgeball game Agreed and if it can be gotten, Obama should go for it. I'd still feel badly for the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjTj Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 I wanted Obama to pick Janet Napolitano as his VP to just go for the jugular in Arizona. If he had picked Napolitano, we probably would never have met Palin though, so it all worked out in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dockeryfan Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Florida is far from a lock for Obama.I can't speak for the other states, but I CAN speak for my home state. If retirees realized that their medicare benefits are in serious jeopardy, they would not vote for McCain. People vote with their pocketbook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expensivegift Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Even if you think it leans left it isn't has bad as Fox News. That's only because Politico doesn't have a news network. If it did it would hire Keith Olbermann, Rachel Maddox, Jon Stewart and create new left talking heads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissU28 Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 I feel bad for McCain, but I think it would be good for America if the electorate taught him a lesson. what lesson does he need to be taught?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosperity Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 what lesson does he need to be taught?? don't pick Palin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Politico is a rumor mill. It is not really biased, as much as it is sensationalistic. Anyhow, McCain isn't going to lose Arizona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjTj Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 what lesson does he need to be taught??Life isn't fair? :whoknows: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexey Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 what lesson does he need to be taught?? A number of them, actually... things like relying on negative campaigning, divisiveness, misrepresentation, promoting ignorance of the electorate, pandering, lacking clear plans, lowering quality of public discourse, demonizing opponents and the media, putting politics ahead of country, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 what lesson does he need to be taught?? It's more like the RNC needs to be taught a lesson. McCain has played the hand he was dealt - any other Republican would be flailing much worse, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexey Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 It's more like the RNC needs to be taught a lesson. McCain has played the hand he was dealt - any other Republican would be flailing much worse, IMO. Good point on the RNC, but I think there are plenty of better ways a Republican candidate could have played the hand he was dealt. McCain could have gone with a positive, centrist message focused on responsibility and he could even be critical of some aspects of the Bush administration as appropriate. Instead he decided to run a negative campaign questioning Obama's character that instead destroyed his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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