NoVaSkins21 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I loved the trade because it definitely gves the Skins the a bonafide pass rusher, but I think we all need to realize that it's going to take a while for Taylor to adjust to the new defensive scheme he's in. After Andre Carter's first year here, I thought the guy was a bust FA signing, but we all saw what he did in year two. Don't get wrong, I hope he does great things for the Skins, but when every opponent gameplans for the Skins, Taylor will priority #1 on defense. Taylor has to get used to his new teammates and they have to get used to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSHRedskins3ATLBraves3 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 The Taylor transition shouldn't be like the Carter transition at all. Carter was coming from SF where he had played LB for most of his career. Taylor is a career DE that has performed at a HOF level consistently over his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan242 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I think you're speaking apples and oranges here. The reason it took Carter a while is because he was playing in a 3-4 before he came here. Taylor is just switching sides and should be an immediate impact. It may take a few games until he plays every down and packages where he is responsible for coverage, other than that there should be no adjustment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinshog Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Jason is here for maybe two years. How much patience are we talking about here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddd723 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Jason will make a huge impact whether he has double digit sacks this season or not because as you said he will be the focal point for the opposing teams offensive line which means less double teams on AC Monty and Griffin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoRnAndRaiSedSkinsFan Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Taylor will not have trouble transitioning to the defense. Another reason Carter didn't play as well his first year was becase of the way to DL was being used. They didn't just let him loose to go get the QB. They realized their mistake and let him go year 2. Him and Taylor will def be getting after the QB. AC and our DTs sack numbers will def go up now b/c teams will focus on JT. LBs will have it easier when blitzing as well. Once EJ gets healthy also, we should have a very scary pass rush with a good scondary behind them. Look for turnovers to go up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morneblade Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 The Taylor transition shouldn't be like the Carter transition at all. Carter was coming from SF where he had played LB for most of his career. Taylor is a career DE that has performed at a HOF level consistently over his career. Actually Carter had played DE most of his career, but was currently playing OLB at SF. And Taylor has played at LDE quit a bit the last 3 years, so there shouldnt be the kind of adjusments Carter had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldfan Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Jason is here for maybe two years. How much patience are we talking about here? :laugh: I'm good until next Thursday. How about you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thirtyfive2seven Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 ROFL!! I think the crowd is going to be VERY pumped when Taylor gets his first sack at home. I'm betting it comes against the VaGiants though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbleedBnG83 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 He'll be ready by week one. I don't think there should be any grace period come regular season. At the end of the day, he will have to rush the QB or play the run. He has been in the league for 11 years and has played under several different coaches. The only adjustment I see is moving from one side to another which he seems confident about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MumboSauce Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 As B Mitch says...you pin your ears back and get after the QB. That's it. lol the guy knows how to do that, has the speed, athleticism, moves/technique etc. Just a matter of getting into football shape and maybe coming from the left end instead of the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truant Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Sorry, none here. He's one of the best at his position. We're paying him top dollar and gave up draft pick compensation. He's coming out like a gang buster and towing the rope for the Burgundy and Gold till he retires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mass_SkinsFan Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I loved the trade because it definitely gves the Skins the a bonafide pass rusher, but I think we all need to realize that it's going to take a while for Taylor to adjust to the new defensive scheme he's in. Very true. We can't expect anything out of him immediately. I'm more than happy to give him the entire 12 days that remain between now and the Hall of Fame game to get his **** in order. At that point in time he needs to start earning his paycheck, just like every other player on this roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohioskins Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Of course there will be adjsutments. New players along side him, slightly different scheme. The biggest adjustment will be switching to the left side full time. Although that should be an advantage going against the normally weaker right offensive tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrecker Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I think you're speaking apples and oranges here. The reason it took Carter a while is because he was playing in a 3-4 before he came here. Taylor is just switching sides and should be an immediate impact. It may take a few games until he plays every down and packages where he is responsible for coverage, other than that there should be no adjustment. Uh, correct me if I am wrong but I think Miami plays a 3-4 also. :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins2victory Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 JT was a def. player of the year, this means he has lots of natural talent. I expect him to use this natural talent and get more sacks than anyone eles on our team. The schemes may be diffrent, but we will have him rush the passer a lot, using that natural ability, if we don't then we are stupid. Go skins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKIN4WAHOOZ Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 "it will take them some time to adjust to the new system/scheme". Give me an f'ing break. While this is true (somewhat) and practice makes perfect, these guys are "professionals". this is what they do. they play football, learn "new systems/schemes", get traded, have new coaches, new ways of doing things. this excuse is extremely overated. go tell jt that we will be patient with his production (or lack there of) because he is on a new team. after that post the picture of him laughing at you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooley4President Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 I don't think its a matter of patience with Taylor. He's a pro bowl caliber pass rusher, with I believe the most sacks in the league since 2000, and if he's not getting to the QB it will be because of declining skill and not because of an adjustment period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Jason Taylor is an All Pro Player.....there is no reason to expect a "grace period" with him. Now with that said, I would gladly be willing to settle with him getting lesser stats if it in turn means he is being double-teamed almost every down which allows Andre Carter one on one matchups and interior line to run a little bit more free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnhay Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Uh, correct me if I am wrong but I think Miami plays a 3-4 also.:2cents: The new defense that Taylor never played in does, but I think last year was mostly 4-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F Landry Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Very true. We can't expect anything out of him immediately. I'm more than happy to give him the entire 12 days that remain between now and the Hall of Fame game to get his **** in order. At that point in time he needs to start earning his paycheck, just like every other player on this roster. MORE than every other player on the roster, if anything. We gave up a draft pick and we only have him for a year, make that two if we are lucky. I personally won't have much patience if he doesn't perform. That said, I fully expect him to perform at a very high level. So it should be a non-issue in my opinion. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morneblade Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Coach palermo said in his interview that he expects JT to pick up the defense in about 2 days. Ther're keeping it basic, and all he really needs to do is learn the calls. Whoever said "Thursday" for his grace period is the winner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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