Burgundy Burner Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 :doh: If you're not having sex in high school it means no one has said "yes" yet. Once again, how many is "some"? Like I said before, it sounds like a ruse to get abstinence-only programs eliminated. Bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 "Some". How many are "some"? A few? A small percentage? Less than one hundred?Sounds like a ruse to get abstinence-only programs eliminated. Bad idea. I was thinking more along the lines of "And some teenagers . . . Think these are stupid questions. Have a sense of humor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
33 Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Once again, how many is "some"?Like I said before, it sounds like a ruse to get abstinence-only programs eliminated. Bad idea. And I'm saying that abstinence-only education is a ruse, because it's biologically inverse to everything we know about teenagers. 1. The lads just cannot get pregnant (I contend that if they could, our society wouldn't even be talking about a lot of issues that we do, and drive-thru abortions would be legal and normal). Valid thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeknows Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Once again, how many is "some"?Like I said before, it sounds like a ruse to get abstinence-only programs eliminated. Bad idea. do you really think abstinence only programs work? do you really think banking your kids future on the fact he or she wont give in to temptation? we hope as parents they dont but do you really want to bank on it? if so i think thats absurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iheartskins Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 HOW do we expect kids to abstain from sex when the media has been raping their minds with sexual images ever since they could see the tv? I think you need to move to the time of Hester Pryne dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy Burner Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 And I'm saying that abstinence-only education is a ruse, because it's biologically inverse to everything we know about teenagers. Valid thought. Abstinence works 100% of the time that it is used. Proven fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy Burner Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 do you really think abstinence only programs work? do you really think banking your kids future on the fact he or she wont give in to temptation? we hope as parents they dont but do you really want to bank on it?if so i think thats absurd. See above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
33 Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Abstinence works 100% of the time that it is used. Proven fact. What about Mary Mother of Jesus? What % of the time does teaching abstinence-only to teenagers work? :whoknows: Did you not try to get laid in high school? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy Burner Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 What % of the time does teaching abstinence-only to teenagers work? :whoknows:Did you not try to get laid in high school? It's a moot point when the technique is used - 100% accuracy can't be overcome. What alternative is there? Also, my private life shall stay private. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headexplode Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Abstinence works 100% of the time that it is used. Proven fact. I don't think anyone argues against teaching abstinence. Reasonable people argue against teaching abstinence, only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headexplode Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 It's a moot point when the technique is used - It's a moot point when the technique is used. What about when it is not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeknows Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 I think you need to move to the time of Hester Pryne dude. ok you got me..... what the hell does HESTER PRYNNE and the scarlet letter have to do with kids being subjected to sex on tv everyday of their mortal lives? i really dont know .... please enlighten me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeknows Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Abstinence works 100% of the time that it is used. Proven fact. like i said..... you are going to bet your kids life on doing something most of us didnt? of course i teach my kids its better to wait but at the same time i teach them what contraception is and how important it is if they should have a moment of weakness abstinence only programs teach that only....... just dont do it is the motto NEWSFLASH- high teenage pregnancy rate leads experts to belive abstinence only programs don work. more on the std and teen pregnancy rate on your 5 oclock news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
33 Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 It's a moot point when the technique is used - 100% accuracy can't be overcome. What alternative is there? The problem for teenagers is condoms are 99% effective and 100% more fun. You can use abstinence-only all you want, but how many 18 year olds can when given an alternative? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Abstinence works 100% of the time that it is used. Proven fact. Teaching Abstinence Only does not mean that it will be used by teenagers. Proven fact. Bumper-sticker slogans don't solve real world health problems. Also proven fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChocolateCitySkin Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Abstinence works 100% of the time that it is used. Proven fact. tell that to the virgin mary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeknows Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 i saw a news report that 25% of american teen girls have herpes or some std. most common was herpes. kids today arent having sex.... theyre f***king! like rabbits from what i can tell. no way you are going to stop them so..... givem a damned condom at school at church hell i dont care just cover their s**t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
33 Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 tell that to the virgin mary. Come on CCS, did you really think we were that slow? http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5055165&postcount=33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iheartskins Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 ok you got me..... what the hell does HESTER PRYNNE and the scarlet letter have to do with kids being subjected to sex on tv everyday of their mortal lives?i really dont know .... please enlighten me Why was Hester Prynne made to wear the letter "A"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iheartskins Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Teaching Abstinence Only does not mean that it will be used by teenagers.Proven fact. Bumper-sticker slogans don't solve real world health problems. Also proven fact. **** that Predicto, I'm Visualizing World Peace right now and it's working! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeknows Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Why was Hester Prynne made to wear the letter "A"? pregnancy but still what does that have to do with trying to teach kids sexual responsibility versus tellin them it is bad to have the most pleasurable fun time they have ever experienced and not to do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headexplode Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Bumper-sticker slogans don't solve real world health problems.Also proven fact. Come on, Predicto. Bumper stickers will solve all our problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy Burner Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 like i said..... you are going to bet your kids life on doing something most of us didnt?of course i teach my kids its better to wait but at the same time i teach them what contraception is and how important it is if they should have a moment of weakness abstinence only programs teach that only....... just dont do it is the motto NEWSFLASH- high teenage pregnancy rate leads experts to belive abstinence only programs don work. more on the std and teen pregnancy rate on your 5 oclock news. I agree that we teach our children to abstain - like you, I did it too with success. We don't want our children to have children. However, the use of contraception is not always reliable and an unplanned pregnancy occurs. I simply don't agree with so-called experts on the subject. By using various methods other than abstinence-only teaching, we are subjecting our children to taking a chance. We're also encourging them that it is acceptable to engage in sex outside of marriage. That is not the responsibility of a school, but the parent(s). I'll be back later this evening - got plans for supper and need to go. Thanks for the discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stophovr6 Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 i saw a news report that 25% of american teen girls have herpes or some std. most common was herpes.kids today arent having sex.... theyre f***king! like rabbits from what i can tell. no way you are going to stop them so..... givem a damned condom at school at church hell i dont care just cover their s**t They were humping like rabbits back in the day too. I was sitting at the dinner table with my parents when my cousins drug use came up. My dad said he remembered kids smoking reefer in his school some 50 years ago. Then my mom pointed out that teen pregnancy was a big problem in her Catholic school around the same time. I said "So what's changed exactly? What makes your generation so much more innocent than mine?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Teaching Abstinence Only does not mean that it will be used by teenagers.Proven fact. Bumper-sticker slogans don't solve real world health problems. Also proven fact. Teaching contraception does not mean it will be used either,in fact aren't the results about the same in studies? I believe that abstinence only programs also include the basics of contraception options...Anyone know for sure??? Teaching the risks and personal worth and responsibility were my chosen method,which seemed to work well. :whoknows: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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