Mr. S Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Marcus Stroud and John Henderson. Those guys complement each other very well. I guess alone they'd be good, but together, they push that pocket back and one of them can try and get to the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[[ghost]] Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Skins have missed out on plenty of good lineman. Still can't believe we drafted Manuel White over Marcus Spears. We didn't.... Spears was a 1st Rounder. Did you mean Rogers over Ware? Or Rogers over Merriman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightbird Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 ]']We didn't.... Spears was a 1st Rounder. Did you mean Rogers over Ware? Or Rogers over Merriman? He's probably thinking of Chris Canty. We drafted Manny White ahead of Chris Canty in the 4th. There were some other good guys on the board at the time....Brady Poppinga, Kerry Rhodes, Todd Herremans, Darren Sproles, Trent Cole. Oh well, guess they thought Manny could be a good H-Back/Fullback. Win some lose some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoBob Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Any DT that can collapse the pocket and force the the QB from stepping up is pass specialist Ding Ding Ding We need the fatty's in the middle that take up two blockers. Very few DE's can consistantly pressure the QB against double teams.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[[ghost]] Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 He's probably thinking of Chris Canty. We drafted Manny White ahead of Chris Canty in the 4th.There were some other good guys on the board at the time....Brady Poppinga, Kerry Rhodes, Todd Herremans, Darren Sproles, Trent Cole. Oh well, guess they thought Manny could be a good H-Back/Fullback. Win some lose some. Right. For that Manuel White, we got a Montgomery. Now while Montgomery hardly had the effect that Rhodes, Sproles, and Cole have all had, he's at least a pleasant surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatsnack Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 This draft is thick with guys who can push the pocket. Dorsey, Ellis, Laws, Dre Moore, and Red Bryant have all shown more or less ability in this area. The standouts being Dorsey and Laws in this area. Ellis and Bryant or more inconsistent while Moore has the physical ability and less production. This is a motherload of potential 6-sack DTs in one draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltimateSkins Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Rod Coleman was good at it for a while. He's an FA now, I know some ppl here bad mouth him but he's proven that he can get around 8 sacks a year as a DT. That's pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 I've seen people give reference on this board to a pass rushing DT. Now I'm just wondering is there such a thing really? I mean who was the last DT that you've seen that was a sack specialist? Warren Sapp was a pretty good one, but he is was the exception to the rule. The fact is it's just not in the job description. Their job is to force the line back into the QBs face collapsing the pocket allowing usually for one of the speed guys to get after the QB. And more importantly their job is to dominate the LOS and play on the other side of the ball, maintain gap responsibilities, and allow the second level (LB) to run free and make plays for negative or minimal gains. So a pass rush DT to me means nothing, because as a whole in the NFL they don't largely exist and give me a run stuffer any day over a so called "Pass Rush DT"...Thoughts??? I think that you are confusing gap techniques (0,1,2,3) and the overall play of the DT. There is a difference in the physical shape of a DT as well as the positions that they play on the LoS. What they do and how they do it depends on their skill set as well as their size. You won't have a 335lb DT playing a 3 gap as you wouldnt have a 300lb DT playing zero gap. 2 gap and zero gap (NT) are usually space eaters, taking on 2-3 men in the process and control the LoS not allowing running lanes to emerge. 1 gap and 3 gap players are very quick, athletic and are meant to burst out of the LoS between gaps and get to the backfield. Hope that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfbovey Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 ]']We didn't.... Spears was a 1st Rounder. Did you mean Rogers over Ware? Or Rogers over Merriman? Sorry, meant Canty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemSkinz Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Justin Tuck is a great pas rush Dt from the giants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsn24 Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 I cant believe noone has said this guy yet: Amobi Okoye 5.5 Sacks in his rookie year as a 19 year old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noshirtforyou Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 I believe that would be a DT that gets sacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 I cant believe noone has said this guy yet:Amobi Okoye 5.5 Sacks in his rookie year as a 19 year old. Why'd you have to bring him up? Thats the guy half the board was begging Vinny and Co to select last year, but I guess that they just learned that the members on Extremeskins know what they're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angel2 Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 I've seen people give reference on this board to a pass rushing DT. Now I'm just wondering is there such a thing really? I A 3 technique DT is considered a pass rushing DT. Anytime the DT is not playing on the Center the DT is considered to be rushing the QB or at least get pressure in the backfield. There's also a positional DT that lines up in the 4 or 5 gap to get pressure in the backfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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