BthatRAD09 Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 is he still available for the 2nd round pick cuz i think he is the best option for reciever but i dont see him being talked about. sorry if this is somewhat a repost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsMaster88 Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Latest update: http://blog.mlive.com/lionsinsider/2008/02/dont_expect_roy_williams_to_be.html Don't expect Roy Williams to be traded Posted by Tom Kowalski February 07, 2008 18:53PM Don't believe the recent rumors you hear about Lions receiver Roy Williams getting traded. Oh, the Lions will entertain trade offers for Williams but, according to a source close to the situation, the Lions will only pull the trigger on a deal if there's overwhelming value for Detroit. Williams is on the trading block, but not the same block as defensive tackle Shaun Rogers. The Lions want to part with Rogers if they get decent value and there's more motivation for head coach Rod Marinelli to move on without Rogers. It's an entirely different situation with Williams, who has one more year on his contract. Williams is expected to leave Detroit via free agency in 2009 because, barring an unforeseen situation, he won't be tagged as the franchise player. The Lions will listen to offers now, but would prefer to get at least one more stellar year out of Williams. According to the source, the Lions believe the departure of offensive coordinator Mike Martz will make Williams a happier player in 2008 and might be instrumental in getting him to return in 2009. It's another reason why the Lions won't deal Williams unless they get an offer they can't refuse. ------ That said, I'd rather have Williams for a 2nd rounder than Chad Johnson for a 1st. However, ideally we can just build through the draft and establish some good young talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiingspadee Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 I sure hope so. I was on the CJ wagon however the more I thought about it I realized he really wouldnt fit. Rod Woodson said it best "Chris cooley had 63 catches. Johnson is used to 90+ and can he really handle the -30 in catches" so I think Roy would be good because he would understand his role. He looks like the type who would step into the "We need you to get double covered so you can make our other guys look amazing and use you in the redzone alot" type role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BthatRAD09 Posted February 14, 2008 Author Share Posted February 14, 2008 k thx what a bummer tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyZeb Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 It's Matt Millen, all bets are off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyConway Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Target him next year. Focus on the draft this year. Draft a WR as long as he is the BPA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truant Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 I like Roy Williams but I don't see why we'd trade for him. We can simply wait a year and outbid other teams for his services. A second round pick should be a very good player at a very manageable salary. I know, I know. Our draft history is checkered, at best. But for the last 5 years or so, we've done okay with the higher picks. Besides, if the problem is not drafting well, cascading draft picks out the window isn't a way to solve the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadKarma Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 I would like to see us deal for Rogers AND Williams. If we can do it and somehow keep our 1st or 2nd rounder we would be filling in two huge needs and still have a pick to deal with depth. Williams is a special athlete, reminds me of a younger TO and would be a much better fit than ocho cinqo. With the age and the fact we would only have to give up a 2nd rounder as opposed to the 1st for Johnson, I would rather have a younger more physical talent than the aging less athletic CJ. I wonder if Detroit has any interest in Griffin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AAARedskin Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Saving our no. 1 pick for a WR makes so much more sense. I don't want a trouble-maker like Chad Johnson on my team. You know what's great about Gibbs' legacy? He has and had the team caring about one another.....why bring in a selfish and arrogant guy like Johnson to disrupt things? We can draft a guy just as good....and a player with a good team attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inmate running the asylum Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 First off Williams is signed thru BOTH 2008 and 2009. So we are not going to pick Williams up as an UFA NEXT YEAR. And Detroit is not going to trade Williams to the Skins for only a 2nd round pick as has erroneously been reported. It will take at least a 1st round pick and maybe more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paloosa Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 I sure hope so. I was on the CJ wagon however the more I thought about it I realized he really wouldnt fit. Rod Woodson said it best "Chris cooley had 63 catches. Johnson is used to 90+ and can he really handle the -30 in catches" so I think Roy would be good because he would understand his role. He looks like the type who would step into the "We need you to get double covered so you can make our other guys look amazing and use you in the redzone alot" type role That is a bunch of crap!! Just because Rod Woodson said something doesn't mean that he is right. If Chad Johnson came here there would be enough balls to be caught especially with the WCO being implemented here under Zorn. Not only would he be happy but he wants to win a championship and he feels he will not win one in Cincy. He feels that Washington has the talent and that he is the missing piece of the puzzle. So does Dan Snyder. So don't be surprised that OCHO CINCO is a Washington Redskinby Training camp if not sooner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMat184 Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Bryant Johnson Bryant Johnson Bryant Johnson.....I can't say it enough!! If not him, I'm all for James Hardy from Indiana in round 2 of the draft...Dude is 6'7 and a bigtime redzone threat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunClintonRun26 Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 I still don't understand why people want to trade for Roy . . . Sure, he is big, has great hands, and can be that possession receiver we haven't seen in years . . . but really . . . do we want a player who is a huge Dallas fan? lol He is from Odessa, and is very open about the fact that he is a cowboy fan . . . in fact, didn't he say a few months ago that he ultimately wants to go play for them? I usually don't make these kind of threads about a player's loyalties . . . but come on . . . this needed to be said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laxpunk2006 Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 I sure hope so. I was on the CJ wagon however the more I thought about it I realized he really wouldnt fit. Rod Woodson said it best "Chris cooley had 63 catches. Johnson is used to 90+ and can he really handle the -30 in catches" so I think Roy would be good because he would understand his role. He looks like the type who would step into the "We need you to get double covered so you can make our other guys look amazing and use you in the redzone alot" type role I'm not saying we should or shouldn't trade for CJ or RW but what does Cooley's catch totals have to do with CJ's? Cooley is a TE not a WR. He was asked to stay in and block most plays towards the end of the season. CJ would not be lined up inside, he would be out running routes. Coles had over 90 catches for us his last season. Our problem has been our recievers are made of glass. How many games did ARE and SM BOTH start in last year? Hell, Lloyd doesn't even play and he managed to get hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySkin21 Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 I would like to see us deal for Rogers AND Williams. If we can do it and somehow keep our 1st or 2nd rounder we would be filling in two huge needs and still have a pick to deal with depth.Williams is a special athlete, reminds me of a younger TO and would be a much better fit than ocho cinqo. With the age and the fact we would only have to give up a 2nd rounder as opposed to the 1st for Johnson, I would rather have a younger more physical talent than the aging less athletic CJ. I wonder if Detroit has any interest in Griffin. are you joking? rogers cant stay on the field more for more than 2 plays and hes sucking wind. 5th roundre only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voicekiller Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 who is available as a FA WR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadKarma Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 are you joking? rogers cant stay on the field more for more than 2 plays and hes sucking wind. 5th roundre only Joking about what; throwing in Rogers in a deal for williams or acquiring him in general? I think its almost a certainty that we are going to part ways with Griffin this offseason, fat or not Rogers is still a good PT run stopper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadKarma Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 who is available as a FA WR? Free agents I would like to see us entertain are Randy Moss, Javon Walker, Bryant Johnson of AZ and Virginian Ernest Wilfork of JAX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiingspadee Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Sorry i didnt posted wrong. CHRIS COOLEY LEAD OUR TEAM WITH 63 catches. So THATS what Chris cooley's catches has to do with CJ's 90+ Do you guys think he will be happy catching 40-60 passes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbowman Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 I sure hope so. I was on the CJ wagon however the more I thought about it I realized he really wouldnt fit. Rod Woodson said it best "Chris cooley had 63 catches. Johnson is used to 90+ and can he really handle the -30 in catches" so I think Roy would be good because he would understand his role. He looks like the type who would step into the "We need you to get double covered so you can make our other guys look amazing and use you in the redzone alot" type role We have an entirely new offensive game plan going in next year. WCO = lots more passing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.T.real,lights,out Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 He wont be out of the 'D' for two years. You know they will slap the 'Fran' tag on him next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch_Lives59 Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 are you kidding me? Roy Williams? awful. Roy Williams 245 catches yards 3,652 TD's 28 Ocho Cinco catches 559 yards 8,365 TD's 49 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiro Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 are you kidding me? Roy Williams? awful.Roy Williams 245 catches yards 3,652 TD's 28 Ocho Cinco catches 559 yards 8,365 TD's 49 Bro, keep in mind that Roy Williams has had Joey Harrington, Jeff Garcia, and Jon Kitna throwing to him, behind probably the WORST offensive line in the league. Versus Chad's has had Carson Palmer and Jon Kitna throwing to him (mostly Palmer) behind a pretty decent offensive line. Despite that, Roy Williams has still performed quite well as the #1. Still kinda confused on why Martz leaving would make Williams happy. If anything, Martz's pass happy offense ideally is the kind of system that mades any good WR happy. :whoknows: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman#21 Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 At one point i thought Roy and Ocho were both available now neither of them are...bummer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NebraSKIN Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 I would actually prefer Williams over 85.... Roy plays a more physical game, thus he would be a better fit to catch those little WCO slants across the middle. Plus we would have a Roy Williams as well. Would be fun to hear about leading up to games vs Dallas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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