mlindsey13 Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Wilbon made a statement in his today's WP (1/23/08) that baffled me. He states that Cerrato has suggested strategies or particular directions in the past that the organization did not follow. Wilbon's exact statement: "But I know this much: His [Cerrato's] advice as to what to do was wiser in several instances than the course of action the Redskins took." link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/22/AR2008012203341.html Does anybody know what he's talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisxcore Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 I guess just that Snyder has the final say in everything Redskins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawgjk9 Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 i thought the same wen i read it. wonder what issues cerrato differed from the actual course of action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarb Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Somebody mentioned the Lloyd trade/contract for one. Don't remember where I read that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 i thought the same wen i read it. wonder what issues cerrato differed from the actual course of action. Just for fun, I'm gpoing to speculate that Vinny would most logically be suggesting things that if they were disagreeable to soemone deciding direction, it was likely about personnel matters and/or money matters, and that the people who most likely would be over-riding him would be Gibbs & GW. Given how much secind guessing we have done with those two, my "theory" may be of some little comfort to the still-flailing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilsu Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 What's with the baggy pants that Snyder's wearing? Shouldn't he be able to afford a tailor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
33 Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 It wouldn't be too surprising if Gibbs was willing to give up more than necessary to insure he got a player he wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejaydana Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Wilbon made a statement in his today's WP (1/23/08) that baffled me. He states that Cerrato has suggested strategies or particular directions in the past that the organization did not follow. Wilbon's exact statement: "But I know this much: His [Cerrato's] advice as to what to do was wiser in several instances than the course of action the Redskins took." link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/22/AR2008012203341.html Does anybody know what he's talking about? I don't know the specifics but basically he's saying that Snyder over-rides everyone and has ultimate veto power. This, in short, is why we stink on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 I don't know the specifics but basically he's saying that Snyder over-rides everyone and has ultimate veto power. This, in short, is why we stink on the field. Did you even bother to read the few posts before yours prior to responding to the OP? Just wondering, cuase there's every indication you didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlindsey13 Posted January 23, 2008 Author Share Posted January 23, 2008 I don't know the specifics but basically he's saying that Snyder over-rides everyone and has ultimate veto power. This, in short, is why we stink on the field. That may be the case, but I am still curious about what specific things Cerrato has told this organization to do that it did not. Wilbon's comment seems to suggest that perhaps Cerrato may be a good personnel man, but some decisions we've made against Cerrato's blessings have in some way hurt us. I would be curious to know what these decisions were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever21 Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 I guess just that Snyder has the final say in everything Redskins? Maybe now by giving Vinny this promotion Snyder is giving up some of that control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEavyJumbo85 Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 I'm pretty sure he's referring to the Spurrier days where Steve convinced Dan to draft Taylor Jacobs over Mike Doss whom Vinny wanted, how did that go. Also there is the Patrick Ramsey situation, where Dan wanted him and no one was going to stop him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TL8583 Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Maybe now by giving Vinny this promotion Snyder is giving up some of that control. haha...you are kidding, right? I just can't see Dan giving up much control, if any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awesome Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 I've always assumed that player decisions were Vinny's. That B Lloyd was his, Jeff George, Deion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
33 Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 I've always assumed that player decisions were Vinny's. That B Lloyd was his, Jeff George, Deion you can't say that and not say that heyer, kendall, alexander and so on weren't his. the truth is we really don't know. it's as if multiple people have been making different decisions for a while with the skins. maybe now we'll get a better idea of the decisions that vinny was making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 It wouldn't be hard to believe that he didn't like the HUGE overpayment for guys like Lloyd or Archuleta. I mean, signing below average players to the biggest contract ever at their position kinda makes most people scratch their head. Being in the league for a long time, even if he isn't very good at anything specifically, he probably saw that a guy like Ed Reed makes this much, and a guy like Reggie Wayne makes this much, so why do we offer Archuleta, and Lloyd way more? Hmmm, seems like stuff like that was posted here a lot too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REEGSKINS Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 i think danny is just making people have someone else to blame for all the stupid mistakes he makes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seabee1973 Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 As much as i rag on Vinny (basically the only person besides DAN) he took the downfall for Dwight Clark and Carmen Policy in SF He actually knows a lot about talent and was always able to find it in the draft in Sanfran in the early rounds From what ive heard is he has been over ridden by Dan a lot in teh early days. I think A lot of people including me where thinking he was a gonner when Gbbs took over but I think he will have a 3 year window after that the jury will be out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceGeorgeJoe Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Wilbon's right, fellas. Vinny's not to blame for everything. For instance, Vinny didn't want Archuleta. Your boy Gregg Williams did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siven Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 As much as i rag on Vinny (basically the only person besides DAN) he took the downfall for Dwight Clark and Carmen Policy in SF He actually knows a lot about talent and was always able to find it in the draft in Sanfran in the early rounds From what ive heard is he has been over ridden by Dan a lot in teh early days. I think A lot of people including me where thinking he was a gonner when Gbbs took over but I think he will have a 3 year window after that the jury will be out This is true. Vinny wouldn't have been with SF for 9 years if he was a total moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squatch66 Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 well now that vinny has control over personnel moves we will be able to see the direction that he wanted to go. does this mean that we take a defensive end or tackle in the first round? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrFan Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Wilbon made a statement in his today's WP (1/23/08) that baffled me. He states that Cerrato has suggested strategies or particular directions in the past that the organization did not follow. Wilbon's exact statement: "But I know this much: His [Cerrato's] advice as to what to do was wiser in several instances than the course of action the Redskins took." link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/22/AR2008012203341.html Does anybody know what he's talking about? So why staying if the owner doesn't trust you ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raub Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 This is about Snyder choosing Johnny Rockets as the "upscale" burger at FedEx. Vinny wanted Five Guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpneedrm Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 This is about Snyder choosing Johnny Rockets as the "upscale" burger at FedEx. Vinny wanted Five Guys. I love me some Five Guys, somethings wrong with synder if he does not like a good burger!!!!:dallasuck :eaglesuck :gaintsuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gortiz Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 What's with the baggy pants that Snyder's wearing? Shouldn't he be able to afford a tailor? I bet he makes decisions about his clothes with another person as well, so its taking awhile to pick a tailor. Until then we have to wait and pretend our CRAPPY owner doesn't look like MC Hammer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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