ke27on Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 They looked like bears on roller skates, just awful first off hahahahhahahah second off. i had a great view from the club level of the game, and basically just about every single run there was absolutely nowhere to run. And the worst thing about it, there was generally nowhere to run in any direction. You'd see him get the ball and every hole would be plugged. It was literally unreal.....:2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtyler42 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 The O-line was terrible in pass protection today... As far as the running game goes I put most of the blame on Portis...I'm starting to see what outsiders see about Portis...I've taken my B&G colored glasses off and when I watch Portis run this is what I see: 1.) He has no patience or vision...Too many times he just runs into the backs of the lineman and doesn't allow the blocks or his cut-back lanes to set up...When he does finally try to cut he's already up into the line and gets tripped up... 2.) He has a lot of heart when it comes to blocking but he has no elusivness or break tackle ability...He always goes down on first contact...I can't remember the last run of his that he actually juked somebody/made them miss/broke a tackle... 3.) He doesn't have that speed to take a play the distance or even get outside anymore... I'm not sure what we can do w/Portis as it looks like we're stuck with him, but I wouldn't be against going out and getting a RB whether through FA or the draft... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBC Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 The O-line was terrible in pass protection today...As far as the running game goes I put most of the blame on Portis...I'm starting to see what outsiders see about Portis...I've taken my B&G colored glasses off and when I watch Portis run this is what I see: 1.) He has no patience or vision...Too many times he just runs into the backs of the lineman and doesn't allow the blocks or his cut-back lanes to set up...When he does finally try to cut he's already up into the line and gets tripped up... 2.) He has a lot of heart when it comes to blocking but he has no elusivness or break tackle ability...He always goes down on first contact...I can't remember the last run of his that he actually juked somebody/made them miss/broke a tackle... 3.) He doesn't have that speed to take a play the distance or even get outside anymore... I'm not sure what we can do w/Portis as it looks like we're stuck with him, but I wouldn't be against going out and getting a RB whether through FA or the draft... Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z0eboy Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 The O-line was terrible in pass protection today...As far as the running game goes I put most of the blame on Portis...I'm starting to see what outsiders see about Portis...I've taken my B&G colored glasses off and when I watch Portis run this is what I see: 1.) He has no patience or vision...Too many times he just runs into the backs of the lineman and doesn't allow the blocks or his cut-back lanes to set up...When he does finally try to cut he's already up into the line and gets tripped up... 2.) He has a lot of heart when it comes to blocking but he has no elusivness or break tackle ability...He always goes down on first contact...I can't remember the last run of his that he actually juked somebody/made them miss/broke a tackle... 3.) He doesn't have that speed to take a play the distance or even get outside anymore... I'm not sure what we can do w/Portis as it looks like we're stuck with him, but I wouldn't be against going out and getting a RB whether through FA or the draft... didnt portis show the haters what he can do when the line actually blocked somebody against the Jets? it obvious this offensive line wasnt blocking today and if they block for him he can do everything your saying he cant. honestly portis is being asked to block when hes our best offensive weapon, i dont see many #1 RBs being asked to do half of the things hes asked during pass blocking, he blocks better than some lineman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scruffylookin Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 I wonder how many linemen were yelling at Portis last week. Portis has earned several passes on games like last week given what he has done for this team over the course of his 4 seasons here. With the exception of Chris Samuels, this same pass does not apply to anyone on this offensive line (including Thomas and especially Jansen). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrell1106 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 I'd be pissed as well but u don't go after your own teammates like that. Randy Thomas will be back soon... light at the end of the tunnel perhaps? I could be wrong buy you must have never played ball before. All kinds of things are done/said on a sideline. As teamates its nothing personal. If you can handle it you man up and do your job. If you can't then you don't belong in the league. I just hope CP yelled as Samuels as well because his overated ass got owned the entire game (period). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 I dont know if those of you at home saw this but...I had some great seats behind the Redskins bench today and after the safety CP had some choice words for Todd Wade and he looked pissed. After yelling at Wade, Portis walked to the other end of the bench came back and yelled at the whole o line I wish I could have got a picture of it, he was not happy. I remember he said something on Players Club about not inviting Todd Wade and Fabini because of their play. I didnt think he meant it like that. Good, they deserved it! Wade and Fabini were atrocious. They attacked that side of the line time and time again. Put in Heyer when Thomas comes back. I haven't seen our line play like that since Spurrier. Putrid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabronijames Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Did anyone mention that Joe Bugel might actually have something to do with this? Isn't he supposed to be the O-line guru? Why has our line been subpar since the return of Joe Gibbs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCranon21 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Good, they deserved it! Wade and Fabini were atrocious. They attacked that side of the line time and time again. Put in Heyer when Thomas comes back.I haven't seen our line play like that since Spurrier. Putrid. I agree. I was in the club level yesterday for the game, and they made Buffalo's front 4 look like an all-pro defensive line. Fabini and Wade are atrocious on the right side. I don't understand it. No protection at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeast Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Glad someone has some fire in them. Joe should have gone over and kicked some tail. People blame the running on Portis. If we had some damn holes for him to hit things would be better. Big game yesterday for CP and our o-line whiffed most of it. Ditto for protecting Campbell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stwasm Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 I dont know if those of you at home saw this but...I had some great seats behind the Redskins bench today and after the safety CP had some choice words for Todd Wade and he looked pissed. After yelling at Wade, Portis walked to the other end of the bench came back and yelled at the whole o line I wish I could have got a picture of it, he was not happy. I remember he said something on Players Club about not inviting Todd Wade and Fabini because of their play. I didnt think he meant it like that. The fact that you have players bickering with each other shows that chaos is ruling this organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art McDonough Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 The Redskins need to take a long look at the OL this off season. Coaches, starters, back ups, everything needs to be scrutinized closely. I think I read somewhere where the Patriots have 7 or 8 interior linemen who can play any position and they use them all throughout games. That way if someone goes down, no big deal. I think the starting 5 we had at the beginning of the season are as good as any but we are really in need of 2 or 3 more quality guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stwasm Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 The Redskins need to take a long look at the OL this off season. Coaches, starters, back ups, everything needs to be scrutinized closely. I think I read somewhere where the Patriots have 7 or 8 interior linemen who can play any position and they use them all throughout games. That way if someone goes down, no big deal. I think the starting 5 we had at the beginning of the season are as good as any but we are really in need of 2 or 3 more quality guys. It just goes back to the depth issue and how the organization puts this team together. Too much focus on signing all-star players at the "sexy" positions and not enough attention is being paid to making sure you use the draft to build depth. This team has done that for far too long and now it's coming back to haunt us. Because of this philosophy, injuries hit us much harder than other teams because there's no one to fill the void. Why do you think Portis was screaming at Wade and Pucillo on the sidelines yesterday? They aren't talented and they aren't players who can push Thomas and Jansen for their jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Prime Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 They didn't him any favors on the field today. But by the same token, Portis had a subpar game himself. He had a couple instances where he was out in space and didn't capitalize. wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sekhmet728 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 It just goes back to the depth issue and how the organization puts this team together. Too much focus on signing all-star players at the "sexy" positions and not enough attention is being paid to making sure you use the draft to build depth. This team has done that for far too long and now it's coming back to haunt us. Because of this philosophy, injuries hit us much harder than other teams because there's no one to fill the void. Why do you think Portis was screaming at Wade and Pucillo on the sidelines yesterday? They aren't talented and they aren't players who can push Thomas and Jansen for their jobs. Right on. I don't know how we expected to function by releasing so many our lineman and not signing any replacements in the off season except for Heyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDoyler23 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Missing Sellers certainly didn't help. Play calling was equally bad. Run run pass, punt. ugh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InsaneBoost Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Oh well, we can't win them all, not even in the time of a great player, or a great friend, something he has to realize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobigred Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 I think the oline is the real problem to the offense. Those guys are not getting it done. Jason also has to know how to cover the ball. He fumbles too damn much. I think we can forget about the playoffs. I don't see it even in their eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugarbear326 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Awful, the bills run a 3-4 at times and they were putting alot of pressure on Campbell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinPryde Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 The O-Line isnt the only problem... But id be pissed as well if i rushed over 22 times and averaged 2.2 yards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riggins44 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 I can understand Portis' frustration, however you could see the entire team didn't have their heads in the game. Honestly believe that they didn't want to play, but felt obligated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel Hog Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Right on. I don't know how we expected to function by releasing so many our lineman and not signing any replacements in the off season except for Heyer. I agree with all the talk about the O-Line. This team needs many things right now, but I think during the offseason it would be wise to focus on the O and D lines. Don't go out and spend the mad cash for a "sexy" position. Good football teams start in the trenches of the Lines. The reason I mention the D line too is b/c our D is designed around Sean Taylor. During the offseason GW may need to re-tool this design and build around the line - i.e pass rushers to take pressure off the secondary. For the O line, we need to copy verbatim what the Patriots do - depth, depth, and more depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinfan75 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 For the O line, we need to copy verbatim what the Patriots do - depth, depth, and more depth. well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HogLife4Ever Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 He had good cause to be upset. I've seen swiss cheese with less holes in it. Tough week for all, tougher day today. We'll bounce back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCMONEY Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 The O-line got man handled yesterday no doubt. It was ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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