DCsportsfan53 Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 Actually, that is true. Could I be wrong one this one? Possibly.But he also did bring in a host of other players early on that were horrible decisions, so I'm sticking to my original premise that he simply can't be a football guy. Ever. The problem is, we don't know how involved he was in which decisions, so it's all a matter of opinion based on perception. That perception is, in turn, distorted by the media because they're the ones suggesting and guessing who's making the decisions. One thing I will say though, a lot of the bad decisions made had to do with accomidating what a new coaching staff wanted in terms of players. How do you know which decisions were who's? Or is it that somebody's got to take the blame so you throw a dart? The simple truth is, we don't know what Dan knows about football nor which personnel decisions were/are his. Anything beyond that from us is uneducated opinion. What we do know is that the Redskins as an organization, whoever's making the decisions, have had varying degrees of success in terms of acquiring players and have made a lot of boneheaded decisions. It seems to me that we've been well in the + in Gibbs' second tenure in terms of picking players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 Maybe Joe is just trying to help ole Danny out and improve his reputation. Cooley is one of our top jersey sellers and a fan favorite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md20j Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 He might not be a "football guy" but he had the insight to go after Cooley. A guy Parcell's said would never make it in the NFL. woah... Snyder or Cooley? I mean, I've always had a sore spot for Parcells since he was back with the Giants... but he said that about Cooley? What a dummy! I wonder how he feels now... On the topic of Snyder: not for nothing, but this guy is a billionare by virtue of his own sweat and work ethic. Guys like that aren't dumb. And dumb guys: they learn from their mistakes. Snyder made some, Lord knows. But he seems to me like he's coming around. Hired ol' Joe back, didn't he? And his mistakes are only from sheer desire to improve the team. Don't tell me that when he was bringing in Bruce Smith and that crew that you weren't like "oh h*ll yeah!" Except, obviously, for Deion (who to me was a Cowboy no matter how you cut it) and George (when Brad Johnson threw Porcher to the ground in the Lions game, I thought "he's my favorite quarterback since Ryipen!"). I may not like every move he makes... ... but it's his $800,000,000. Not mine. Course, it feels like it with every $75 ticket and $14 beer... Latah, JB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkowi Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 Dan Snyder is damned if he do and damned if he don't round here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nace14 Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 the quote seems to imply that dan was the one pushing to resign him, not the one pushing for the trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sideshow24 Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 Dan Snyder is damned if he do and damned if he don't round here. Which is why Gibbs tends to defend him and give him credit for the good things. He is looking out for his owner. Who cares? We all wanted Cooley locked up long term and now he is. Why make more of it than it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkowi Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 Which is why Gibbs tends to defend him and give him credit for the good things. He is looking out for his owner. Who cares? We all wanted Cooley locked up long term and now he is. Why make more of it than it is? I think my point was the same as yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinDan0557 Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 the quote seems to imply that dan was the one pushing to resign him, not the one pushing for the trade. Which makes this thread pretty useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebornempowered Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 We can't just be happy with signing Cooley can we? Have to find some new reason to whine and moan about the front office. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkforhall Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 It does bring up the question of how involved is Snyder involved in the drafting process. Sounds to me that he pushed the drafting of Cooley. Nice pick. Edit: Disregard re read quote. Nice work Mr. Snyder. Please get Sean Taylor done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinDan0557 Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 "When we made that deal, Dan was the one pushing, pushing to do it," Gibbs said. "He's been a really productive guy for us and it's great to get this done and get it out of the way. He's somebody who you'd think has earned it, and we think he's going to be here for a long time." This whole quote is in reference to his new deal not when he was drafted. Cooley said himself he went to his position coach first about getting a deal done and it went all the way up to Dan. Cooley also stated that Dan then made it happen. All the Snyder bashing in this thread is being done under false pretenses. There are plenty of things you can fault Snyder for, one doesn't need contrived bull**** to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tastes Like Chicken Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santana_4_prez Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 This is just Gibbs being humble and not wanting to take credit for a fantastic move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da#1skinsfan Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 What does it matter if hes a "football guy"? With or without Dan Snyder Cooley has accomplished what he has accomplished in the NFL. He deserved that contract, Dan recognized it and gave it to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomE Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 good point. Here's the preceding paragraph. JLC makes it seem like Gibbs is taking about the initial trade up for Cooley. So your position that Snyder was the one who scouted and pushed for the trade-up to get Cooley is based on your spin on JLC's spin on what Gibbs was saying? I tend to go along with the "Snyder pushed for the extension" spin on JLC's spin on what Gibbs was saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 I could be reading this wrong, but was Dan the one that pushing for the trade or for resigning him. Because it is one thing to evaluate talent prior to playing in the NFL, but its a whole another thing to pay the man after he is due up... Just my interpretation of the remarks... For resigning him. Dan handles the contracts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnhay Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 So Dan Snyder was the one who really trumpeted the trade up for Cooley??I'm not sure if I like this. Cooley worked out great. Kudos. But... Dan is not a football guy. He never will be no matter how much he studies or tries. It's not a matter of effort, he just can never be a football guy, like a guy that's been IN football his whole life. If we take Gibbs at his word here, all I can say is yikes. It probably has been said, but he was referring to Snyder wanting the extension to get done, not actually drafting Cooley. It was a really good idea too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[[ghost]] Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 IF Snyder did push for Cooley, then I want Snyder running the FO show now, and not handing his duties over to Cerrato. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 Is this a joke?That may be the worst argument for any plan of attack. The track record in this case is...one. Thanks for a little sanity on this web site. People here just don't get it. And then they wonder why are are a joke around the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 Stupid FO, I hate being able to sign whoever we want and extending guys like JJ and Cooley, making them life long Redskins. We didn't even sign our 7th round pick, we are going to suck. I wish Ralph Wilson owned the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xempt Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 come on people, dont be idiots. it was cooleys extension that snyder pushed for, not the trade up in the draft.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 Well, the non-Football Danny did try to talk football mainstay Schotferbrains into picking Santana Moss over Rod Gardner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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