JimmiJo Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 that sounds almost as real as vinny cerratos title. It is what it is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 Steve Jackson's title is Passing Game Coordinator - Safeties Is that anything like "sanitation engineer" instead of "garbage man"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoot Point Really Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 Not sure I'd casually dismiss this thread starter, friends.Just sayin'. I suppose this guy is a "Friend"... as in Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewAgeSkins Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 whose the chick in your sig califan007? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsGuy Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 Steve Jackson's title is Passing Game Coordinator - Safeties That does sound like a demotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMetal Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 The knock wasn't that Jackson couldn't coach, but more that he wouldn't. And much of what was stated in that article was confirmed publicly by Shawn Springs. I just can't conceive of the safeties and DB's attending different meetings and not being on the same page, gameplanning-wise. That is outrageous. Worries me that this guy is still on the team when we have young, talented players at the position that need quality, professional coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrockster21 Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 whose the chick in your sig califan007? Allesandra Ambrosio. :drool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsGuy Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 The knock wasn't that Jackson couldn't coach, but more that he wouldn't. And much of what was stated in that article was confirmed publicly by Shawn Springs. I just can't conceive of the safeties and DB's attending different meetings and not being on the same page, gameplanning-wise. That is outrageous. Worries me that this guy is still on the team when we have young, talented players at the position that need quality, professional coaching. Yeah, but many think Springs WAS the "undisclosed source" in the article. If he was, he was just confirming his own words. The seperate meetings between the CBs and the safties was the norm in '04 ad '05 when Jackson was running the secondary, wasn't it? No one had a problem with it then when our defenses were great (mainly b/c we didn't know about it ). As I said, Jackson I'm sure isn't nearly a problem as that Friend article and its one "source" suggested, or he would've been long gone. He may have been demoted, as the coaching title he now holds (provided by JimmiJo) suggests. However, we have no idea what happened behind closed doors, or the reasons he may have been demoted. They may have nothing to do with the alleged incidents related in the Friend article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isle-hawg Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 As I said, Jackson I'm sure isn't nearly a problem as that Friend article and its one "source" suggested, or he would've been long gone. Maybe not, JG likely has a different preception from that of a (or more) player(s). And I "think" he "may" give the benefit of the doubt to the coach. However, we have no idea what happened behind closed doors, or the reasons he may have been demoted. I agree, JG is not ever going to come out and bash a current or former assistant in public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loxley Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 Wow Califan I think you beat Lloyds Mongolian beef and Tastes Like Chicken all in one fell swoop and not a bounce or an ass between them. Those eyes, oh my. Stopped me dead in my tracks. As for the original poster, I guess if Om will vouch for him/her then we can agree that this is legit. Is this another Andyman scenario? Wheres he been in forever anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raub Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 Weren't Gray and Jackson teammates in Houston? Not only were they teammates, but they were also in the defensive backfield together during the greatest comeback in NFL history. They made Frank Reich the answer to a trivia question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanTaylorthePunterSlayer Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 'Tis fun to speculate, but we don't have a source. So, I'm taking it with a grain of salt. I just hope they figure this secondary coverage stuff out, and we get some pass rush to help them out... Can't wait for 9/9... HTTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 I hope this is true and it seems to be by his new title. Though I prefer that they just got rid of him all together. Jackson screwing up Landry after already having a negative effect on Sean Taylor is one of my biggest concerns about this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsTillIDie Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 Has no one figured this out yet? tofrie = Tom Friend A quick glance at his previous posts will detail as much. It seems as if Om knew as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byner21 Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 Has no one figured this out yet?tofrie = Tom Friend A quick glance at his previous posts will detail as much. It seems as if Om knew as much. Well done. I think you've got it. Or at least you've got what we're SUPPOSED to think. My brain just shut down and re-started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Money Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 The author of this thread has been rumored to be Tom Friend in the past. Nevereffingmind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipwhich Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 The author of this thread has been rumored to be Tom Friend in the past. Don't tell Califan. He doesn't want guys like this posting here. He needs credentials :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcarey032 Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 I am in favor of limited government and bureaucracy. This is a prime example of how we don't need a coach for every single position. Next thing we will have is the coaches coach and gms gm. I understand a quarterback coach and a running back coach wideout coach and all the other positions, but couldn't you have one guy doing two jobs? I mean come on this is rediculous with how many chiefs there are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoot Point Really Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 Hence my post a while back saying that I thought this guy was a "Friend" as in "Tom"... Some folks are slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21dave Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 Well done. I think you've got it. Or at least you've got what we're SUPPOSED to think.My brain just shut down and re-started. Hahaha, I feel the same way. Anyway, I hope this move was made, the secondary will be better off for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
authentic Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 Is that anything like "sanitation engineer" instead of "garbage man"? :laugh: :laugh: ... or discount nutritional scientist (i.e. 'burger flipper' @ McDonalds) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byner21 Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 If tofrie is Tom Friend, then what are we to make of his previous post (check his history) about Shawn Springs and his trainer (David Boston's previous trainer). And I'll add to that...wasn't B Lloyd training with Springs in Arizona? PURE SPECULATION: If tofrie is Tom Friend, then MAYBE Springs and Lloyd are juicing. There has been a lot of chatter (and a this year vs. last year photo comparison thread) about Lloyd looking a lot bigger this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsTillIDie Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 If tofrie is Tom Friend, then what are we to make of his previous post (check his history) about Shawn Springs and his trainer (David Boston's previous trainer).And I'll add to that...wasn't B Lloyd training with Springs in Arizona? PURE SPECULATION: If tofrie is Tom Friend, then MAYBE Springs and Lloyd are juicing. There has been a lot of chatter (and a this year vs. last year photo comparison thread) about Lloyd looking a lot bigger this season. This is what tofrie said then: Bryant's article mentions that Springs is working with strength coach Ian Danney. Oh, is that a red flag. Danney, just so you all know, was David Boston's personal trainer when Boston was nailed for steroids and suspected of HGH. He is someone to be highly suspicious of. But, I'll say this, Springs will eventually show up looking like a Greek God. Guaranteed. It's been said that Springs looks much larger, and it is VERY clear that Lloyd has gathered some muscle mass. I can't imagine anyone would be stupid enough to juice in this day and age anymore... Although if you remember last year, Jon Jansen said that he had reason to believe that a large number of players do. That being said... If Lloyd is caught juicing, would that be reason to void his contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byner21 Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 Check out this link, and see SkinsTillIDie's post above mine that shows what tofrie previously posted: http://www.extremefitness.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-1784.html The author of the article is Tom Friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsTillIDie Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 Check out this link, and see SkinsTillIDie's post above mine that shows what tofrie previously posted:http://www.extremefitness.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-1784.html The author of the article is Tom Friend. That's a terrific read. This should probably be it's own thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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