RIDETHEWALRUS Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 Its poll time, which Vick brother is the dumbest. A. Marcus Vick -Decides it is a good idea to invite a couple of 14 yr old girls back to his place in college and gets them drunk in a bad attempt to ipck up. He does this while he is the QB of a college team and likely could have picked up with a quarter of the student body. -Gets arrested on pot charges -I know there are several more things, but I can't remember them off the top of my head B. Michael Vick -"Ron Mexico" -I am not going to describe his latest fiasco, but everybody knows what it is. Who ranks lowest on the common sense meter? Who would you not let watch your car, let alone your kids, or certainly not your dog? Who is forced to sign checks with an "X" because they can't remember how to spell their name? Vote Now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killerbo Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 Dude, WTF is your problem ...insulting someone's mother....not funny, and a lot of teenagers have used pot in college at some point so drop the holier than thou crap. The 14 yr old girls thing was stupid, that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylorcoreskin Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 Dude, WTF is your problem ...insulting someone's mother....not funny, and a lot of teenagers have used pot in college at some point so drop the hoiler than thou crap.The 14 yr old girls thing was stupid, that's for sure. :rotflmao: You took so much offense to that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrapeApe Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 I said their mother, just for Killerbo. I'd have to say Michael. He has the most to lose so he is a bigger knuckle head for doing something that will get him kicked out of the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIDETHEWALRUS Posted July 26, 2007 Author Share Posted July 26, 2007 Dude, WTF is your problem ...insulting someone's mother....not funny, and a lot of teenagers have used pot in college at some point so drop the hoiler than thou crap.The 14 yr old girls thing was stupid, that's for sure. Killerbo, quick question...Who raises the Vicks? Who taught them the difference between right and wrong? Who is responsible for ensuring they operate within the rules of society? Answer: NO ONE DID! Their momma should have, but two bad apples is a clear demonstration of piss poor parenting. Though I voted for Deion, I only wish there was a way to edit the poll to include Deion's momma too. Oh yeah, the 14 year old girls thing wasn't stupid it was attempted date/pedophilia rape. Substantially worse tan just stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killerbo Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 Killerbo, quick question...Who raises the Vicks? Who taught them the difference between right and wrong? Who is responsible for ensuring they operate within the rules of society? Answer: NO ONE DID! Their momma should have, but two bad apples is a clear demonstration of piss poor parenting. Though I voted for Deion, I only wish there was a way to edit the poll to include Deion's momma too. Oh yeah, the 14 year old girls thing wasn't stupid it was attempted date/pedophilia rape. Substantially worse tan just stupid. Stop.....what if their Momma actually raised her kids right but they made their OWN choices......wow, mind numbing huh....the point is you can't trash his mom, bcos for all you know she might have raised her kids right taught them the difference btw right and wrong and her kids chose wrong.....we don't really know, so stop with the mom **** bcos that's really wrong. Oh yeah, the 14 year old girls thing wasn't stupid it was attempted date/pedophilia rape. Substantially worse tan just stupid Agreed, it was pathetic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siven Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 Marcus had a lot to lose. And he did lose. He lost out on potentially winning a national championship and being a first or 2nd round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkabong82 Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 Seeing as Vick hasn't been convicted of anything yet, and one option is a cheap shot at a family member, I'm going with Marcus. All his incidents with guns, underage girls, and even his on the field stuff like stomping on a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbodiesel#44 Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 Probably a little unfair to blame their mother. Mothers are nurturing and loving. It is the father or father figure (or lack thereof) that instills discipline and character into a sons life. Both Vicks obviously had problems from childhood. Deion be a non-issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAFGA Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 Ron Mexico The Water Bottle The fingering in ATL All the latest stuff.... Does anyone think it's going to go away? Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMahoney Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 It has to be their mother, there is no way you raise to kids right and they both have taht kind of attitude. They a bunch of thugs its all theyll ever be, my bet is there mom hardly raised them and they were aloud to do whatever they wanted growing up. They excelled in football and took it took the next level, but didn't know what to do with the fame. I know I was raised to care about the suffering of others and I could not watch a dog fight, two animals pinned in the ring til death. (not on their accord) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman#21 Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 Mike Vick no question! cant you have someone carry your own pot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIDETHEWALRUS Posted July 26, 2007 Author Share Posted July 26, 2007 Stop.....what if their Momma actually raised her kids right but they made their OWN choices......wow, mind numbing huh....the point is you can't trash his mom, bcos for all you know she might have raised her kids right taught them the difference btw right and wrong and her kids chose wrong.....we don't really know, so stop with the mom **** bcos that's really wrong. Maybe she did raise them right and they then proceeded to make stupid decisions on their own. Maybe she didn't raise them right and they both turned into ignorant criminals with no moral compass. See that is the biggest issue here. Neither of these guys seem to have a moral compass. Dog fighting, slamming an animal into the ground or electrocuting it to kill it. Attempting to get a 14 year old girl drug so you can pick up with her. These are things that clearly demonstrate that neither of the Vicks can clearly distinguish right from wrong. Or if they can that they do not care. Yes they make their own decisions, but they make their decisions based on the lessons they were taught as children. Their mother is likely ashamed of both of them. Or at least I hope so. If she isn't than I would have to change my vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reic Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 Stop.....what if their Momma actually raised her kids right but they made their OWN choices......wow, mind numbing huh....the point is you can't trash his mom, bcos for all you know she might have raised her kids right taught them the difference btw right and wrong and her kids chose wrong.....we don't really know, so stop with the mom **** bcos that's really wrong. If a parent really gave two ***** I could see it happening with maybe 1 kid, not both of them. Parenting is as much to blame in teaching a child's/young adult's ability to discern between a right decision and a wrong decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stophovr6 Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 I picked the mom....just bcos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21 always Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 I agree You can't bl;ame the mom 100% our society is a bunch of complainers and excuse makers like when a kid does something wrong everyone blames the parents . Now provided parents are responsible but i know a lot of people who raise there kids right but there kids are just stupid and no one takes accountability anymore in our country ... Why cant your kid just be stupid..... They might have been raised bad and they might have been raised good but none the less a grown man needs to take responsiblity for his own actions at the end of the day..... M.Vick is a grown man who hopefully will go to jail but you cant blame his mom 100% for him wanting to be a freaking dog beater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLostSkin Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 The Vick boys aren't kids anymore, they're legal adults.... blaming their Mom is stupid for that reason, at some point in each person's life they have to accept responsibility and accountability. Marcus and Mike are clearly in charge of their own lives at the points they started getting themselves into trouble. As far as the poll goes, I voted Marcus because he had the tools to be a top pick in the NFL and completely flushed everything away before he even got there. Even if Mike doesn't play football for a while he'll still be a multi-millionare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 i vote for mom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stophovr6 Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 This is the only blurb I could find about his mom: From Askmen.com http://www.askmen.com/men/sports/55_michael_vick.html "Michael Dwayne Vick was born on June 26th, 1980, in Newport News, a town near Norfolk, Virginia. A port town, Newport News had fallen on hard times by Vick's childhood, and Vick's personal experience was full of hardship. Vick's mother, Brenda, was only 16 when he was born, and his father, Michael Boddie, was 17. The two had already had a daughter before Michael Vick, and would have another two children before marrying in 1985. Michael and his siblings saw little of their father, who was in the army and then worked long hours in the shipyards. Michael's mother worked at Kmart while raising her children." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAFGA Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 The Vick boys aren't kids anymore, they're legal adults.... blaming their Mom is stupid for that reason, at some point in each person's life they have to accept responsibility and accountability. Marcus and Mike are clearly in charge of their own lives at the points they started getting themselves into trouble.As far as the poll goes, I voted Marcus because he had the tools to be a top pick in the NFL and completely flushed everything away before he even got there. Even if Mike doesn't play football for a while he'll still be a multi-millionare You know an old African proverb said "It takes a village to raise a child." That being said, look at the surroundings (or village) that Vick grew up in. Not the greatest of surroundings. That same village that raised Vick into who he is also could be blamed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sircharlz Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 Stop.....what if their Momma actually raised her kids right but they made their OWN choices......wow, mind numbing huh....the point is you can't trash his mom, bcos for all you know she might have raised her kids right taught them the difference btw right and wrong and her kids chose wrong.....we don't really know, so stop with the mom **** bcos that's really wrong. Sounds like someone is overly sympathetic to the mother of children who make bad decisions. Perhaps this hit a little close to home? Seriously - something was wrong with her parenting if both kids continue to break the laws, disrespect others and animals. It's not as if she drew the short straw twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twenty-eight Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 Marcus is the least intelligent Vick. When you think about Micahel Vick a lot of things come to mind before stupid. When I think of Marcus, first thing that comes to mind is- MORON. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killerbo Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 Sounds like someone is overly sympathetic to the mother of children who make bad decisions. Perhaps this hit a little close to home?Seriously - something was wrong with her parenting if both kids continue to break the laws, disrespect others and animals. It's not as if she drew the short straw twice. Yes, bcos my mom is gret and she raised 3 boys as best as she could with my dad of course, taught us the difference between right and wrong.....but guess what I am an upstanding guy, in the Military for 7 years and a solid citizen, my younger brother got busted for possession with intent to distribute and is in a federal slammer for 7 months and my older brother got mixed up in some bad stuff too. So what blame my poor mother who cries at night bcos 2 of her grown sons made some bad decisions....It's stuff like that people have to think off, it's not plain black and white......for all we know their mom could ave raised up her kids the right way, and they just made bad decisions anyways bcos they wanted to......So sad that now, bcos of the hate for Vick some have to cheap shot his mother....bet you aint got the balls to say **** about his mom in his face...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 Boo Hoo, plight of the poor neighborhood. They have free will to make decisions. They are plenty of people raised in bad neighborhoods that overcome it with their education and make choices that they know are right and wrong. Vick isn't stupid. He knows dog fighting is illegal. You have to have an IQ of about 32 not to know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylorcoreskin Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 Boo Hoo, plight of the poor neighborhood. They have free will to make decisions. They are plenty of people raised in bad neighborhoods that overcome it with their education and make choices that they know are right and wrong. Vick isn't stupid. He knows dog fighting is illegal. You have to have an IQ of about 32 not to know that. I guess he's just a sociopath then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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