Dumbsheet Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 Darrell Green will most likely be voted into the Hall of Fame later this year. Careful you don't count the chickens before they quack. I think Green will probably get in the Hall, he deserves it. But most outsiders (i.e., those who don't wear pig snouts and picnic dresses for Sunday services) don't have him pegged as a first ballot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePreciating Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 First - Monk and Green were on different sides of the ball. Just cuz we love them both, don't expect one to "hold-out" from the Hall of Fame for the others. Second - What are we going to do if Green doesn't get in on first ballot? Would everyone in the sports world realize it was a complete travesty, or would we go around having to defend Darrell Green like we have to defend Art Monk? People thought Art Monk was a first ballot lock too - all-time receiving leader when he retired is a first ballot qualification if I ever heard one. Third - If somehow only one Redskin gets in this year, Gibbs will probably give the induction speech. I can see Green's son speaking, but the one giving the induction speech should be a football player, coach, or legend otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 But most outsiders (i.e., those who don't wear pig snouts and picnic dresses for Sunday services) don't have him pegged as a first ballot. You really are a dumbsheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 Probably a minister of some kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 But most outsiders (i.e., those who don't wear pig snouts and picnic dresses for Sunday services) don't have him pegged as a first ballot. Actually, they do. Peter King: I think if Vegas had a tote board on the 2008 Hall of Fame voting, the odds would be shortest for Darrell Green (2-1) and Cris Carter (5-2). http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/peter_king/03/26/0326/4.html Dr. Z: OK, he names Deion, Rod Woodson and Darrell Green as recent names who are almost shoo-ins. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/dr_z/06/21/mailbag.0621/index.html Len Shapiro: I believe those three and Darrell Green (next year he’s eligible for the first time) will eventually be in the Hall of Fame. I’m hoping for a Green/Monk twin double next year, and rest assured, both men have plenty of support in the room and it’s just a matter of time. http://artmonk.wordpress.com/2007/03/26/hogs-haven-interviews-len-shapiro/ The Hall of Fame website itself: Two members of the Class of '83 already are in the Pro Football Hall of Fame -- Kelly and Dickerson. Four others are virtual locks as soon as they become eligible -- Marino, Elway, Bruce Matthews and Darrell Green. Dent and Craig are on the bubble. http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/release.jsp?release_id=1540 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h8dacowgirls Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 Yes but what you and so many others would fail to understand is that he would be doing so under the instruction of Gregg Williams so the reason you can't hear him is because the coaches told him to do so not because he's an idiot. Excuses, Excuses You might be able to cover for him about the huge pad he gives wideouts but you cant cover for the drops the coaches didnt tell him to drop easy pics that could have been gamechangers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supadrummer Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 I am not saying Green is an absolute lock to make it in. They will probably vote Terrance Newman in before they vote in Darrell. If they do the HOF will lose the little respect anyone has for the Cowterd lovin' fraterity. They better vote Darrel Green in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OVCChairman Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 Darrell Green has the same kind of production as Monk did when his name was first on the ballot. Longevity, Consistancy, Ability. All of which both players had. I believe that Both Monk and Green both deserve it but i will say that I think Green will get voted in first, ONLY because he did everything he did being undersized and over matched. That and there are quite a few highlights of Darrell Green running people down and making plays. (Championship game vs Bears comes to mind). Green wasnt flashy in any sense but seeing an offensive player making a play isnt as impressive as seeing a defensive player ALWAYS around the ball.....just my 2 cents and dont read this wrong, I believe Monk deserves it just as much as Green but those tools down at the HOF voting dont see it the same way we do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschurm Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 I no longer know what to think about the HOF. I am sure there are teams out that are saying the same things about certain players on their teams, but come on. What does it take for these people to realize that Art Monk i a hall of fame player, first ballot? And if they deny Darrell Green his place in history, then they are buffooons! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mania Posted July 10, 2007 Author Share Posted July 10, 2007 Well atleast they can't say he didn't have any signature plays as that is all Darrell Green ever had. Signature is Darrell's middle name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 WHEN Green gets inducted I'll be sure to make the trip to Canton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radagast5 Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 Darrell Green has the same kind of production as Monk did when his name was first on the ballot. Longevity, Consistancy, Ability. All of which both players had. I believe that Both Monk and Green both deserve it but i will say that I think Green will get voted in first, ONLY because he did everything he did being undersized and over matched. That and there are quite a few highlights of Darrell Green running people down and making plays. (Championship game vs Bears comes to mind). Green wasnt flashy in any sense I think Green was very flashy for a defensive player. He had 12 TD returns in his career, three of them in the playoffs, the two most-replayed and famous rundowns in NFL history (Dorsett in '83 and Dickerson in '86, plus three other equally impressive if less famous ones on Curtis Martin '96, Napoleon Kauffman in '97, and Jerry Rice in '98). Green also had two things going for him that the anti-Monk voters use to keep Monk out: 1. Green had seven Pro Bowl appearances during his career. Only once did the CB opposite Green make the Pro Bowl, and that was Cris Dishman in 1997. Whereas Monk's fellow WR Gary Clark made more Pro Bowls (four) than he did (three). 2. Green was feared by the NY Giants. I know that sounds silly, but both Peter King (now supporting Monk after years of blackballing him) and Paul Zimmerman, who covered the NY Giants during the 1980s, have stated that the Giants did not gameplan for Art Monk. They use that "fact" (Parcells has openly disputed it) as a reason for painting Monk with the "good but not great" label. Parcells and Phil Simms have both remarked on numerous occasions that Darrell scared the crap out of them and they avoided throwing at him like the plague. In short, Darrell Green is an absolute 100% lead-pipe mortal lock to get into the Hall of Fame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 Herb Adderley (CB) 1961-1972 Lem Barney (CB) 1967-1977 Mel Blount (CB) 1970-1983 Willie Brown (CB) 1963-1978 Jack Christiansen (S) 1951-1958 Mike Haynes (CB) 1976-1989 Ken Houston (S) 1967-1980 Jimmy Johnson (CB) 1961-1976 Paul Krause (S) 1964-1979 Dick (Night Train) Lane (CB) 1952-1965 Yale Lary (S) 1952-1953, 1956-1964 Ronnie Lott (CB-S) 1981-1994 Mel Renfro (S-CB) 1964-1977 Emlen Tunnell (S) 1948-1961 Roger Wehrli 1969-1982 Larry Wilson (S) 1960-1972 Willie Wood (S) 1960-1971 They don't add DB's to the Hall very often, so no matter how great everybody knows Green was, I don't think we should consider him a lock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sideshow24 Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 The latest is that Chief Zee will do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smalex41 Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 Darrell Green will most likely be voted into the Hall of Fame later this year. In 2008 when he gets inducted, who do you think will give his speach? Do you feel it would be Joe Gibbs or a defensive coach like Petitbon?I think coach Gibbs would be honored to introduce Darrell both of them have high morals and I feel like he would be the logical choice. I sure hope that Darrell is selected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillbillydeluxe44 Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 His son should do it, but it would be awesome if he asked Art to do it. what a great idea!!!.....if DG gets voted in and Monk still doesn't.....Monk giving the induction speech for DG would be the ultimate slap in the face for those stinking HOF voters:laugh: overall though, eff the HOF!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePreciating Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 The latest is that Chief Zee will do it. Will he make the diesel sound? I hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan81 Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 The Hall of Fame is so messed up right now. Obviosly Monk deserves to be in there, but so do the Hogs since pretty much any discussion about linemen eventually turns to them & not one is in the Hall of Fame. I hope Green gets in, bt I'm not holding my breat. I just don't trust the sports writers as far as the NFL Hall of fame goes. They held out Tags & Monk & put in Irvin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant15fromNJ Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 That will be a great day for the redskins maybe monk and green will get in together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PA Skin Fan Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 Green is a first ballot for sure. Now if Monk doesn't get in I hope Darrell refuses to accept his nomination. This is ridiculous. Would you turn down the highest award in your industry just because someone you thought was deserving didn't get it? Come on. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbodiesel#44 Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 Maybe monk and green will get in at the same time. Thatd definitely be cool. That BETTER happen, or The HOF is a joke. SFTW will be correct. If that were to happen, load up the SUV to Canton, because you know I will be there for that. Can I catch a ride? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouvan59 Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 They don't add DB's to the Hall very often, so no matter how great everybody knows Green was, I don't think we should consider him a lock. He may not be a lock to make it first ballot but he should be an absolute lock to make it at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h8dacowgirls Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 WHEN Green gets inducted I'll be sure to make the trip to Canton. I hope he does get voted in but we have to remember that he never had a star on the side of his helmet and he is a class act like Art. That will be a tuff decision for those pansy ***** writers especially since he was never a cokehead, or got busted with prostitutes. If he doesnt get in then forever piss on the Hall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishtw Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 I hope he does get voted in but we have to remember that he never had a star on the side of his helmet and he is a class act like Art. That will be a tuff decision for those pansy ***** writers especially since he was never a cokehead, or got busted with prostitutes. If he doesnt get in then forever piss on the Hall. I cant imagine him not being first ballot. I with you if his not ...forever piss on the Hall. :dallasuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torch7 Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 You wouldnt be able to hear him because he would stand 10 yards from the podium and he would probably drop the microphone :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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