d0ublestr0ker0ll Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 So now, after seeing Rampage handle Chuck with grace, who could you see winning a streetfight? Rampage Jackson, or Muhammad Ali? Ali is fighting in his prime, and Rampage would fight him 6 months from now. This is a streetfight, but during the course of it nobody is bitten, hit in the jewels, eye gouged, or sprayed with mace. Bare knuckled, who would be the victor? Ali - 6'3" 230 lbs What can't you say about this man? His confidence was awesome. His precision with his fists is right there with Roy Jones Jr. as the best in boxing history. Who would even want to attempt to go in head first to try to take him down? Four haymaking jabs in a second, tight overhand rights, wonderful counterpunching. The most devistating combo puncher the world has ever seen. And it's hard to argue he's not the best boxer of all time. Jackson - 6'1" 205 lbs The new Light Heavyweight Champion of the World. Rampage has displayed time and time again his aggressive wrestling talents. In a (STREET) fight, his bodyslams would stop any opponent on cement. In the ring, they only daze the opponent in to double-vision. His fists are becoming legendary simply for flooring Chuck Liddell. And they are for real. The lower body-strength of a kangaroo, he has the potential to be a fighter that changes the sport forever. Dare we say, in to a boxing-laiden sport. So would the larger and stronger Ali be able to fend off the smaller Rampage? Or would Rampage overwhelm him with his overall abilities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herrmag Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 Skip the bs threads. Ali or Fedor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0ublestr0ker0ll Posted May 27, 2007 Author Share Posted May 27, 2007 Skip the bs threads. Ali or Fedor? Do you want to detonate a nuclear explosion my friend? Let's keep it a little civil around here. That type of poll would cause posts to count again in the Tailgate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrockster21 Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 Ali, Ali, Ali. The answer to the random UFC fighter vs. Ali questions is and always will be Ali. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 The answer is any MMA fighter beats any boxer in any fight that isnt fought using boxings rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afkidd Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 ali, the greatest boxer of all time, vs a very good (but not the best in his prime) Rampage, in a street fight... I like Rampage, but I would rather see a gracie circa 1994 vs Ali. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 ali, the greatest boxer of all time, vs a very good (but not the best in his prime) Rampage, in a street fight...I like Rampage, but I would rather see a gracie circa 1994 vs Ali. I would love to see a 170 lb Royce Gracie vs 230 lb Ali. That would be a great fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney B Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 I can't see the 1967 version of Ali allowing Rampage to get close enough to execute a takedown. The difference lies in the basic speed and athletic ability of the two combatants, and in this case it's not even close. It'd look like a matador executing a tree sloth. An elite-level wrestler against an elite-level boxer, though? The boxer can't hold off the wrestler forever. The boxer would need a quick KO to win. :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmorina69 Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 In his prime its a tough call, boxers can FIGHT. Street fight: Rampage Boxing: Ali Its hard to tell, if Ali can stay on his feet or knock Rampage out before he has a chance to jump on him then Ali wins. But if Rampage gets him on the floor its over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sir Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 I don't think people realize the lack of defensive skills these wresters have in terms of defending themselves against punches. People also fail to realize the impact that not having boxing gloves on would have on boxers, their punching power would truly be deadly. And people don't seem to recognize the difference in handspeed. Before this Rampage vs. Liddell fight, most of y'all thought Liddell was going to win and were wondering if he could take Ali. He basically just got beat by a guy throwing punches. Ali would have rocked him even sooner than Rampage did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 I don't think people realize the lack of defensive skills these wresters have in terms of defending themselves against punches. People also fail to realize the impact that not having boxing gloves on would have on boxers, their punching power would truly be deadly. And people don't seem to recognize the difference in handspeed. I dont think peope realized the lack of defensive skills these boxers have in terms of defending themselves against takedowns. Takedown defense is a skill that has to be learned like anything else, and it isnt easy. If you dont know what to do, you would have the opportunity to throw maybe 3 punches before you get taken down. Better make them count, because i dont think anyone in the thread would argue that once Ali hit the ground, the fight would be over in seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 Overkill anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 If it was MMA then obviously Rampage. Rampage does actually take people down and slam them. No way he would want to stand with Ali. Take him down, slam him, GnP him. Straight boxing the it's Ali. Page would still hold his own though. He's got a good boxing trainer. He's got the ability. Actually won a K1 fight just using boxing. Skip the bs threads. Ali or Fedor? Most people here never even heard of Fedor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 Overkill anyone? :laugh: Yeah, you're probably right. Im going outside, no more ES today. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChampSkinsFanatic Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 The answer is any MMA fighter beats any boxer in any fight that isnt fought using boxings rules. I agree, and to the guy who said Ali vs. Royce Gracie would be a good fight. Royce Gracie would kick Ali's ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 The answer is any MMA fighter beats any boxer in any fight that isnt fought using boxings rules. quoted for truth and Rampage walks around at 225lbs so the weight difference wouldn't matter as he wouldn't have to cut weight for a streetfight:laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dramasirony Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 Skip the bs threads. Ali or Fedor? AMAN my brother "The Russian Experiment" is the baddest in the world his punch are actually thrown from the hips which is so rare in MMA that it stuns me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dramasirony Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 I would love to see a 170 lb Royce Gracie vs 230 lb Ali. That would be a great fight. What about Renson????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosperity Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 great another thread for MMA nerds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herrmag Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 great another thread for MMA nerds You're right! What this board needs is more conservative vs liberal threads. Lets get one started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosperity Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 You're right! What this board needs is more conservative vs liberal threads. Lets get one started. Sarcasm solves all problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herrmag Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 Sarcasm solves all problems Touche'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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