Eagles_Legendz Posted December 12, 2002 Share Posted December 12, 2002 the other great NFC teams of the past. I wouldn't say they are on the level of the 'Boys dynasty of the early-mid 90's, or the Skins in the early to mid 80's, but I think this Eagles team would probably make top 10 in the all-time NFC East team record. I'm an Eagles fan though so of course I'd feel this way. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted December 12, 2002 Share Posted December 12, 2002 Honestly? I'll let you know in a few weeks. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignatius J. Posted December 12, 2002 Share Posted December 12, 2002 I think the standard response belongs here: Win your superbowl first then we'll talk. Usually I feel like it's a dumb thing to say to opposing team's fans but In this case I think its true. We'll talk about wher this team belongs once the rings are on your fingers. Until then you guys are simply a very good team. -DB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yomar Posted December 12, 2002 Share Posted December 12, 2002 depends on how far back you go, but I think its a team with some holes that would be exposed against the pre-salary cap teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagles_Legendz Posted December 12, 2002 Author Share Posted December 12, 2002 Originally posted by DrunkenBoxer I think the standard response belongs here: Win your superbowl first then we'll talk. Usually I feel like it's a dumb thing to say to opposing team's fans but In this case I think its true. We'll talk about wher this team belongs once the rings are on your fingers. Until then you guys are simply a very good team. -DB That's a valid point, although I think this team is better than the one the Giants won with in the early 90's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignatius J. Posted December 12, 2002 Share Posted December 12, 2002 Thing is that postseason is what this game is really all about. The super Bowl is a super bowl and that giants team was pretty darned good. It's not like we're talking about the giants team that went to the superbowl two years ago. hehe superbowl is such a funny word.... Anyway, it's not postseason yet. Do you guys ahve a shot at something special, sure you do, but you've shown you're capable, and you've shown some amazing resilience. Now go out and win. -DB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathByLinebacker Posted December 12, 2002 Share Posted December 12, 2002 Yup, you'll have to beat at least one non-expansion AFC team this season in order for the comparisons to even begin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurent Posted December 12, 2002 Share Posted December 12, 2002 The other great teams of the NFC East would wipe the floor with the Eagles. No offense but the Eagles are not THAT good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted December 12, 2002 Share Posted December 12, 2002 Win a superbowl and then we'll talk. Actually the early 90's Eagles teams were better than this current team. You know the team that saw this: 1990: Giants Superbowl Champs 1991: Skins Superbowl Champs 1992 and 1993: Boys Superbowl Champs Had to do that. :laugh: The great NFC EAST teams of the past went to the superbowl. Get to the superbowl first, win it and you'll get them in the top 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brave Posted December 12, 2002 Share Posted December 12, 2002 There's no way to say where this Eagle team fits in after only 13 games. Heck, the Bucs and the Packers are 10-3 right now as well, but I doubt anyone (outside of Buc/Packer fans) is ready to put them on any "All-Time" lists ... even for a division. Patience, Legendz, patience. If the Eagles somehow run the table in the post-season they'll get all the credit due them. Until then, they are simply a division leader after 13 games and there's going to be 8 of those every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowghost Posted December 12, 2002 Share Posted December 12, 2002 I think this years Eagles are right up there with the 1943 Steagles:D HTTR Lowghst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted December 12, 2002 Share Posted December 12, 2002 Seeing as 10 NFC East teams have won the superbowl (Not to mention the other 7 that have been there and lost it) I'd say the Eagles would have to at least win the superbowl to be considered in the top 10, and win convincingly. I will say that they look to be the most impressive NFC East champ since the 95 Cowboys, for what it's worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSF Posted December 12, 2002 Share Posted December 12, 2002 I think the Eagles are as good as any team in the nfl now and will probably make it to the SB and maybe win it depending on how McNabb comes back. But I think the Cowboys, Skins, Giants, and even Eagles teams from that era would beat them easily. With the salary cap, I don't think we'll see many teams as complete as those teams were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted December 12, 2002 Share Posted December 12, 2002 I'd say the current Eagles team is a step below the 2000 Giants that went the superbowl and a step above the 99 Skins that won the NFC East and then lost in the 2nd round. Even though I think Philly could lose their 1st playoff game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RySkins Posted December 12, 2002 Share Posted December 12, 2002 As others have mentioned, you have to win a Super Bowl or two to be mentioned among historical runs within the NFC East. Despite a downward period the last few years, this has been the premier division in football in the Super Bowl era. I think this is the best Eagle team, at least in my lifetime. Maybe more correctly, this is the Eagle team with the best chance to win it all. During the late 80's and early 90's, the Eagles had dominating defenses and a playmaking QB in Cunningham, but he was the whole offense. And they just had bad timing as the Giants, Redskins, and Cowboys all won Super Bowls during that period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted December 12, 2002 Share Posted December 12, 2002 I'd have to say they're considerably better than the 2000 Gints that somehow made it to the SB, but don't compare to any of the aforementioned early 90s teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted December 12, 2002 Share Posted December 12, 2002 Ryskins makes a good point. In a Span of like 15 years the Skins won the Superbowl 3 times, Giants twice and Dallas 3 times also to add onto their other 2. Philly had decent teams in there but the other 3 Superpowers were just too much at the time. I'll say this since I am a 'Cuse fan. I think behind Favre, McNabb is the best QB in the NFC (when healthy). Even better than Vick at this point. I hated seeing him drafted by Philly and now he'll be there for life with that contract. I just hope that the other teams in the East get smart and our D's can start handling him better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted December 12, 2002 Share Posted December 12, 2002 Great teams dont get blown out at home by the Colts. And they dont let bad teams come back to beat them. The Eagles are a good team. THey are the best in the East this year. But comparing them to an alltime list of great teams is grasping at straws. The Buddy Ryan teams of the early nineties that talked all the trash and got whipped in the playoffs were MUCH better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagles_Legendz Posted December 12, 2002 Author Share Posted December 12, 2002 Originally posted by Brave There's no way to say where this Eagle team fits in after only 13 games. Heck, the Bucs and the Packers are 10-3 right now as well, but I doubt anyone (outside of Buc/Packer fans) is ready to put them on any "All-Time" lists ... even for a division. Patience, Legendz, patience. If the Eagles somehow run the table in the post-season they'll get all the credit due them. Until then, they are simply a division leader after 13 games and there's going to be 8 of those every year. Yea, yea, I know, I know, but see these good things don't come along too often for us Eagle fans. We have to savor the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagles_Legendz Posted December 12, 2002 Author Share Posted December 12, 2002 Oh and btw, the Buddy Ryan era teams were NOT better. They didn't know how to win in the playoffs and were too eratic. They had no offense. The Eagles D under Buddy was incredible- much better than this defense, but the team as a whole is better now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted December 12, 2002 Share Posted December 12, 2002 Outside of beating th Bucs in cold weather and the most overrated playoff team of alltime (the Bears) this Eagle team has choked as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagles_Legendz Posted December 12, 2002 Author Share Posted December 12, 2002 Originally posted by Kilmer17 Outside of beating th Bucs in cold weather and the most overrated playoff team of alltime (the Bears) this Eagle team has choked as well. The Eagles in 2000 were a mediocre team with a favorable schedule who got beat by a better opponent: the Giants. We had Charles Johnson and Torrance Small as our 1 and 2 receivers! They make Pinkston and Thrash look godlike. The team last year was good, and lost to arguably the best offense in NFL history in their dome by 5 points in the NFC Championship game. Our best corner was hurt for the game as well. I wouldn't call that choking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted December 12, 2002 Share Posted December 12, 2002 Well, if you have the ball on the 50 with less than a minute to go and throw an INT. I'd call that choking. That "best offense in history" lost their next game. It's not meant to be a knock. The Eagles have benefitted over the past 3 years from having 2 unbearable teams in the NFC (Cowboys, Cards), 1 medicre at best team (the Skins) and drawn favorable matchups vs the Bucs in the playoffs. They just wouldn't make anyones list of the top 50 teams of all time (except obvious Eagle fans). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted December 12, 2002 Share Posted December 12, 2002 Which teams were better? 1. Dallas teams in '71, '75, '77, '78, '92, '93 and '95. 2. Washington teams in '72, '82, '83, '86, '87 and '91. 3. Giants teams in '85, '86, '90. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yomar Posted December 12, 2002 Share Posted December 12, 2002 93 Dallas 83 Washington 86 Giants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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