Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 WILFORD RIPE FOR THE PLUCKING? Thanks to a tip from our pal Gregg Rosenthal of Rotoworld.com, it appears that official NFL records reveal that the Jaguars have tendered receiver Ernest Wilford at the low level of $850,000. Published reports suggested that Wilford would be tendered at the new second-round level. This means that Wilford can be had for a multi-year offer sheet that becomes fully guaranteed if, for example, Wilford plays five football games in Jacksonville in any year of the deal. Wilford was a fourth-round pick in 2004. Thus, if someone else signs him and the Jags opt not to match, they'll get a fourth-round pick as compensation. As we see it, either the Jags have decided that they'd be happy to get a fourth-round pick for Wilford, or they're just stupid. If someone else wants him bad enough to give up a four, he's as good as gone. Along these same lines, we can't figure out why the Redskins gave punter Derrick Frost the low tender. Frost was undrafted, so the 'Skins get no compensation if someone else signs him. And someone else will be able to get him via the poison pill device. As we see it, the 'Skins would have been smarter to save the $850,000 in cap space and not tender Frost at any level. Or, if they really wanted to keep him, they should have bumped the number to $1.3 million, which would have triggered the second-round level of compensation -- and as a practical matter would have scared off any other suitors. does this mean we can lose Frost now? i hope not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsco1112 Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 Wilford is a huge receiver that could go well with our small, speedy guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Day Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 Boy I never thought of that, I hope frost lets us match any offer he gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEavyJumbo85 Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 If somebody wants Frost that badly to pull a Steve hutchinson with the restricted tender I'd be suprised. Frost might not sign another teams offer anyway because he wants to stay here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLongshot Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 I doubt a team will pay 850k to take Frost. If we didn't tender him, he could go for as little as the minimum, which is probably about half that. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coooleeey Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 Who cares, he has been spotty. I say good riddance if he doesn't stay. If he does, bring in yet another round of punters to compete with him in training camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinzplay Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 Nobody else would dare show interest in frostbite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smer Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 Wasn't the reason that we tendered Frost so that we would have the ability to match any offer that another team makes to him? Versus him just having the ability to take an offer from another team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalSkinsFan Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 The PFT guys are dopes. 1.3 million is a lot for a punter, even an elite one, which Frost is not. Heck, 850k may be considered fairly high for him. The 'Skins still have the right to match any higher offer, which is I doubt another team would offer anyway. Even if one might, let him go if they want to overpay that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3CardMonte Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 The PFT guys are dopes.1.3 million is a lot for a punter, even an elite one, which Frost is not. Heck, 850k may be considered fairly high for him. The 'Skins still have the right to match any higher offer, which is I doubt another team would offer anyway. Even if one might, let him go if they want to overpay that much. Thats what they mean by poision pill. Say the lions want frost they put a clause in the contract that if he plays in 5 games in washington in 2007 then his salary goes to 5 million for the 2007 season. That would make it impossable for the Skins to match. That is what the Vikings did to the Seahawks last year for OG Hutchinson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalSkinsFan Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 Thats what they mean by poision pill. Say the lions want frost they put a clause in the contract that if he plays in 5 games in washington in 2007 then his salary goes to 5 million for the 2007 season. That would make it impossable for the Skins to match. That is what the Vikings did to the Seahawks last year for OG Hutchinson. In that case, let him go, that would be stupid for a punter. I don't think anyone can put Frost in the "elite" class that Hutchinson is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregpeck99 Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 Muchado about nothing ... Frosty is a Skin for life ... adequate punter ... great holder! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana87 Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 Boy I never thought of that, I hope frost lets us match any offer he gets. That was probably what they agreed to do. He gets to see his value and we get to match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 a poison pill contract FOR A PUNTER??!! :rotflmao: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdowwe Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 How is PFT still around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 Frost would sign a 1.3 mill tender in a NY minute. That's on average what McBriar just signed for as the league's best punter. PFT = dumb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunBunch7 Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 See what happens...it's almost 2pm EST on March 2nd and since we haven't signed any free agent we go and start talking abpout tender offers on punters, etc. If a team wants Frostshank Redemption so bad, they can have him. I'm sure there are punters coming out of college or in NFL Europe that could suffice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morneblade Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 Wulford might be a upgrade, but we dont have a 4th to give. Sucks, dont it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapitalDefense Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 Wait a minute we are worried about losing a punter, one that is not very consistent at what he does. Hell, do us a favor and make Gibbs get somebody else, sign Frost now, anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 The only poison pill related to Frost is the one a special teams coach would be swallowing once Frost starts shanking crucial punts again. He righted himself okay the second half of last season, but he has yet to prove he can be a career-consistent punter, and is hardly among the elite kickers in the league right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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