SkinzFoLife Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 OK, hear me out. I don't think Gibb's really wanted Portis, I think that was a Snyder deal. I think Duckett is more like a Gibbs back. Think Riggins, George Rogers and Gerald Riggs. Duckett and Betts would make a great tandem like Riggens/Washington, Riggs/Byner, Rogers/Bryant. Could it be that Portis could be gone next season and we get see see Betts and Duckett? Why else do we have Duckett taking a valuable roster spot? Could we be trading Portis in the off season for yet another Major trade? It just seems to weird to have this many backs this late into the season. Ok, if we kept Duckett as insurance, then why did we not off load some Running Backs before the trade deadline. Is Gibb's planning something for next year or has he just lost it and is just getting senile? We surely could use some draft picks and a draft day trade trade involving Portis could secure us to relatively high draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neophyte Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Portis is not going anywhere. He is one of the best all around backs in the league, maybe the best if you really count his ability to pick up the blitz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sableholic Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 ....... wow, yes gibbs didnt want portis, thats why he traded for him. It all makes sense now. It also explains why Duckett isnt playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins11 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Why is there always a thread every 2 weeks suggesting Gibbs does not want Portis???????????????? Get over it. Portis is the real deal, and he is here to stay. That's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel 36 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 you are off your rocker...besides both Betts and Duckett are Free agents this summer...Duckett will leave...no questions asked....Betts could stay. CP is the man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt'n Obvious Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Portis is not going anywhere. He is one of the best all around backs in the league, maybe the best if you really count his ability to pick up the blitz. Agreed. Portis will stay a Redskin, hopefully for the rest of his career. His blitz pickup ability is amazing. :eaglesuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejay183 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Yeah Portis is going to leave, thats why he is starting and Gibbs got Saunders to call alot more running plays for Portis. Because next year Portis is leaving. Why do people make Portis is leaving threads every year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince62 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 I know one thing...betts aint no Washington! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntotoro Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 If a day comes that we have to depend on a Betts/Duckett tandem, we're in serious trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinstzar Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Dam, this is some dummmmmb posting here. Clinton Portis is on pace to finish his career as one of the top five backs of all time if not the top rusher ever. He blocks, catches, runs, tackles, good with the media, walks the walk and talks the talk. Stop posting dumb ****, it is getting crazy. Every coach wants a CP. In fact every coach would go nuts for 52 CPs. He is not even close to anything having to do with what is wrong with this team. Dam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbnva Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 If we want portis to really succeed then we need to switch to zone blocking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Vet Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 It would stand to reason that Portis will leave as i own a jersey of his...... Much like Ramsey, Arrington, Bailey and ST changing his #. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinzFoLife Posted November 6, 2006 Author Share Posted November 6, 2006 If this is such a dumb post than why did Aikman say that portis admit he doesn't have the patience for Gibbs stye running game which is pulling guards and thats what Saunders does as well. I don't see our line doing much zone blocking. If we are keeping portis and letting Betts and Duckett go than our front office messed up big time as we could gotten some sort of trade value for them. I'm a portis fan, but I don't see him as an elite type such as Tiki, Tomlinson, Larry Johnson, hopefully I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neophyte Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 I'm a portis fan, but I don't see him as an elite type such as Tiki, Tomlinson, Larry Johnson, hopefully I'm wrong. Tiki and Tomlinson are his only competition to be the called the best in this league. Johnson and Alexander do not block nearly as well as Portis and Barber do and they are not so much better than those 3 at anything else that it would make up for it. Tomlinson is not as good a blocker either but makes up for it with his hands as he is the best pass catcher of the 3. If I had to rank them right now, I would say Tiki is first, Tomlinson second and Portis third followed by Johnson, Alexander and a number of other very good backs. However, having said that I think there is a gap between #3 and #4 right now and it is not a small gap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinstzar Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 If this is such a dumb post than why did Aikman say that portis admit he doesn't have the patience for Gibbs stye running game which is pulling guards and thats what Saunders does as well. I don't see our line doing much zone blocking.If we are keeping portis and letting Betts and Duckett go than our front office messed up big time as we could gotten some sort of trade value for them. I'm a portis fan, but I don't see him as an elite type such as Tiki, Tomlinson, Larry Johnson, hopefully I'm wrong. That is because you aren't looking hard enough. If Portis isn't a Gibbs type back them why does he hold the Redskins single season rushing record? Hmmmm? Why isn't it Riggins? Why isn't it Washington? Why isn't it Earnest Byner? Why did Clinton Portis go over 1500 yards three of his first four years in this league?????????? Tiki didn't do that. LJ might not get there. Clinton Portis is on a better pace than any other running back outside of Jim Brown for his career. He averages over 4.5 yards per carry. Please stop saying that Clinton Portis isn't the right back for the Redskins. It just makes you look dumb. It makes you look like you have had your head up your ass for the last two years and can't tell that he is the heart and soul of this team. Clinton Portis is the right back for any football team. He is one of the top 5 all around football players in the NFL. Oh I'll leave you with one quick point. Clinton Portis is four days shy of being two full years YOUNGER than Ladell Betts. Bet you didn't know that. Clinton Portis is still very young and hasn't even played his best football yet. So stop already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmancha Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Betts and Duckett are not the future. We are not getting rid of Portis so get over the fact that Gibbs didn't want Portis because if Gibbs didn't want Portis he would of been gone by now. Remember Lavar, gone cause Gibbs didn't want him and Portis is still there, and Portis will stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Betts sucks. Nowhere near the back Washington was and nowhere near able to carry the load Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 I've said it before: Portis IS Byner except with speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinzFoLife Posted November 6, 2006 Author Share Posted November 6, 2006 Just speculation, calm the f%Uk down. All this makes no sense then. Why have so many RB's? Gibb's has to take some of the blame on this, if Portis is our guy than why didn't we pull the trigger on some trades before Betts and Duckett become free agents? Betts surely had trade value as well as Duckett. Why hold on to these guys? Or Rock, or Nemo? So now we will just lose them to free agency and we lost the draft picks we gave up for Duckett. I love Gibb's as much as any guy but once he leaves this team, we will be screwed because of his lack of front office experience. What now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxSpearheadxX Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 This is insanity. Portis is only 24 years old (or maybe he just turned 25?) he is much younger than the other "premier" backs in the league. Not to mention CP's contract makes him "untradeable". Gibbs is Team President, all personnell decisions good and bad fall on his shoulders, from all reports Snyder is far from involved in player aquisition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinzFoLife Posted November 6, 2006 Author Share Posted November 6, 2006 So Gibb's made the mistake of giving up a 3rd and 4th round pick for an insurance policy he doesn't seem to ever use. Could he perhaps sign Duckett and let Betts go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceviker Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Are you kidding me? The way JG talks about Portis is the same way Patsabelly talks about food - with a man crush! JG loves Clinton and Clinton loves the Skins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hands11 Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 If we want portis to really succeed then we need to switch to zone blocking I thought we learned that last year. Something is still wrong with this set up. A team that sucked on offense one year goes on a 5-0 run the next, makes the playoffs, wins a game and almost gets past 2 except for lack of WR. They get the WR and WR/PR they need but also pick up a converted LB who cant cover as a safety while letting a good Redskin DB go. They pay the new DB the most in the league. They also bring in a OC who is not in sync with his talent when OC play calling had just gotten fixed. They have their star RB injured in preseason so they get a short yardage back for a 3rd round pick when existing Redskins who had been producing and fighting for more PT were already on the team. Then after having played 7 games, they run 7 plays on the 1 with the lightest back they have instead of lining up a 280 lb FB with a 250 lbs short yardage specialist they picked up but dont play. They haven't even tried it once. And they have been having rushing short yardage problems since Gibbs and Portis got here. Something is very wrong with this picture. They didnt need Sanders unless Gibbs is ready to leave. The didnt need TJ for a 3rd when they had Betts, Rock and Sellers. They didnt need Adam when they had Clark. So Lloyd and El were nice pick ups. Overall, thats poor GMing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hands11 Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Just speculation, calm the f%Uk down. All this makes no sense then. Why have so many RB's? Gibb's has to take some of the blame on this, if Portis is our guy than why didn't we pull the trigger on some trades before Betts and Duckett become free agents?Betts surely had trade value as well as Duckett. Why hold on to these guys? Or Rock, or Nemo? So now we will just lose them to free agency and we lost the draft picks we gave up for Duckett. I love Gibb's as much as any guy but once he leaves this team, we will be screwed because of his lack of front office experience. What now? Bring back Charlie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSF Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 OK, hear me out. I don't think Gibb's really wanted Portis, I think that was a Snyder deal.I think Duckett is more like a Gibbs back. Think Riggins, George Rogers and Gerald Riggs. Duckett and Betts would make a great tandem like Riggens/Washington, Riggs/Byner, Rogers/Bryant. Could it be that Portis could be gone next season and we get see see Betts and Duckett? Why else do we have Duckett taking a valuable roster spot? Could we be trading Portis in the off season for yet another Major trade? It just seems to weird to have this many backs this late into the season. Ok, if we kept Duckett as insurance, then why did we not off load some Running Backs before the trade deadline. Is Gibb's planning something for next year or has he just lost it and is just getting senile? We surely could use some draft picks and a draft day trade trade involving Portis could secure us to relatively high draft picks. Put down the crack pipe bro! Gibbs LOVES Portis. Betts is no Joe Washington, and Duckett is no John Riggins. The mystery you're trying to solve is simple. They panicked and picked up Duckett when Clinton hurt his shoulder. At the time it was a good move, and it may still turn out to be one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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