Cracklock81 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 After the game, Saunders was asked his feelings of the offensive performance and the Redskins' inability to properly execute the new system. When asked about the quarterback play thus far and the inefficiency of Brunell, his response is very interesting- "I don't know, Kurt Warner won the Super Bowl in his first year with it," Saunders said. I sense Saunders' is highly disappointed with Brunell's inability to run the offense. He seems like he's extremely frustrated with Brunell as a QB, and his inability to make sound reads and get rid of the ball. Brunell still seems very uncomfortable in the new offense and I'm starting to worry how long it's going to take for him to get comfortable, if ever. As a coordinator for both the Chiefs and the Rams, Saunders had some great players to work with, but one would think that the Redskins' current cast of weapons would be on par with those teams. The o-line has looked bad thus far and we've been without Portis, but when is it finally time to look at making a QB change and starting Campbell, or at least Collins? Also, another thing that bothers me is Gibbs' has stuck by Brunell even thouhg he quickly pulled the plug on Ramsey last year. Is it time for one of the coaches (or players) to step up and call out the offense, and most notably Brunell? I think Saunders is about ready to pull the plug on Brunell. So why isn't Gibbs yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almost Wrote Them Off Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 that's what we've been trying to figure out for the past 10 pages of posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallyHo Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 I mainly agree. You can't run a good offense without a good QB, regardless of who the OC is. Gibbs didn't "pull the plug" on Ramsey, though. Ramsey got clotheslined in the throat by a DL for the Bears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Did he really say that? That's a pretty strong statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakofthesouth Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Here's my problem w/ that quote, and most of what Saunders has said about his system: it seems like his offense is his offense; it is what it is. It does not change or really morph. I thought it would be a mix of Gibbs' offense, and Saunders' offense. It just seems, w/ quotes like this, that his system is his system, unchanging. Something doesn't seem right w/ that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cracklock81 Posted September 18, 2006 Author Share Posted September 18, 2006 That was in Les Carpenter's story from this morning's Washington Post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuji869 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Dang that is pretty harsh, there could be turmoil in Redskin Park this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chokingdogs Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 I mainly agree. You can't run a good offense without a good QB, regardless of who the OC is.Gibbs didn't "pull the plug" on Ramsey, though. Ramsey got clotheslined in the throat by a DL for the Bears. no, thats not correct at all. gibbs pulled the plug at his first opportunity, and it just happened to be that particular play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saqs Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Bye Brunell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal2Washington Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Did he really say that? That's a pretty strong statement. That's what I'm thinking to. If he did make that statement then he and Gibbs need to sit down and figure out what to do with the QB position on this team. That is a OC giving up on the QB type of statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLongshot Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Also, another thing that bothers me is Gibbs' has stuck by Brunell even thouhg he quickly pulled the plug on Ramsey last year. In the end, I don't think he pulled the plug quickly. I think he had misgivings about Ramsey for a while and he had finally seen enough in that first game. Brunell gets the benefit of the doubt for what he did last year and the fact that we have a new offense, but that time is quickly coming to a close. I think Saunders is about ready to pull the plug on Brunell. So why isn't Gibbs yet? Who says he isn't? I didn't hear him make any positive comments about Brunell's performance yesterday. Despite what people think, when he goes with a QB, he goes with a guy who he thinks gives us the best chance to win. In early 2004, that was Brunell. In 2005, that was also Brunell. Who knows who it will be this year, but it doesn't look like it is Brunell so far. jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHANT Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 But you guys are forgetting Gibbs says Brunell is a hard worker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostofAlvinWalton Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Here's my problem w/ that quote, and most of what Saunders has said about his system: it seems like his offense is his offense; it is what it is. It does not change or really morph. I thought it would be a mix of Gibbs' offense, and Saunders' offense.It just seems, w/ quotes like this, that his system is his system, unchanging. Something doesn't seem right w/ that. Well, since it has been the top offense in the NFL the last 5 years, I think maybe the problem is NOT the scheme. :2cents: . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbodiesel#44 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 I mainly agree. You can't run a good offense without a good QB, regardless of who the OC is.Gibbs didn't "pull the plug" on Ramsey, though. Ramsey got clotheslined in the throat by a DL for the Bears. Wake up. Gibbs pulled the plug on Ramsey, and rightfully so. Ramsey was ready to return to the game after 2 plays. Don't re-write history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Bye Brunell. If only... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsbadd Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Bringing in Saunders to run the offense will not work unless he can make the final call as to what players are on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKINZ33 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Gibbs wasn't sold in Ramsey thats why he got the quick pull. Brunell was Gibbs' guy from the beginning. However that might need to change now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEXSKIN1 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 The offense with Brunnel is kind of on slow motion and it does not seem that he can throw the ball deep even when last year he was doing it, this year seem like the offense plays from the back field to the next 10 yards ahead the line of scrimage and that is limiting the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinzFoLife Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Wow, this is almost the same way we started last year, with troubles on offense. Every report I've heard about Saunders offense is that its 700 pages long and every QB thats been in the system said it takes a year to learn. Trent Green told that to Brunell also. So I expect growing pains throughout the season. Was the offense that bad last year that it needed to be overhauled? We had some bad outings in the playoffs but did Brunell not have his best year? Did Portis not break the redskins single season rushing record? Did Moss not break the redskins single season receiving record? Cooley also had a standout year. Do a couple of bad games in the playoffs really need a offense to be overhauled and have a team learn a new playbook and one that is 700 pages at that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desioreo87 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Ramsey was injured in that game in the first half and he coulda come back for the second, however Gibbs was backing brunell forever and so the first chance he had i.e. Ramsey's injury which hardly was, he took it and never gave ramsey another chance. I thought it was pathetic personally. Ramsey woulda played fine, and now we will never know. I just hope that campbell can get in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnhay Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 After the game, Saunders was asked his feelings of the offensive performance and the Redskins' inability to properly execute the new system. When asked about the quarterback play thus far and the inefficiency of Brunell, his response is very interesting-"I don't know, Kurt Warner won the Super Bowl in his first year with it," Saunders said. I'd really have to hear it to judge his tone and everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuppajones Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 What we need is Brunell to get hurt either during practice or in a game, to force the hand of the coaching staff.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donita35 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 With that said, if Brunell loses against Houston, I say sit his old ***** down and play Campbell because we would probably have a losing season anyway if we cannot beat Houston. :doh: So we mindst well get Campbell some real playing time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUSkins Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 i don't care if it is a 700 page playbook...this is football and these are professional football players! enough excuses already, do you really think al saunders was calling for 2 yard bail outs to the RBs and FBs? There is a difference between being uncomfortable in a system and being bad...brunnell is bad at his job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorgantownHokie88 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Here's my take, the offense has been basically inept now for at least two seasons, going into it's third. We've had, since then, new players, and new offensive coordinators, all of whom have been succesful at one time in their careers. The one consistent factor, that has been a part of the inept offense over the last three seaons, has been Brunell. He just doesn't have "it" anymore. I'm really, really scared that Gibbs just doesn't realize this. Everytime, the Cowboys, Eagles, Giants, call and all out blitz, I know the play is over, because Brunell will be pack peddling and just throwing the ball away. I can't remember the last time he stood in the pocket, stepeed into the throw, knowing he was going to have to take hit to complete a pass. He never does it. There is no future with Brunell. This has got be his last year. It's time to start Campbell, take his licks, and hope he is a good as we think he can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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