Walking Deadman Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 I heard ol' #28 on Czaban yesterday and talks of his eligibility for the HOF. THis made me think about the current successful style of WR in the NFL (shorter,faster) and made me think of this "dream" matchup. D. Green in his prime vs a speedster like Santana Moss or vs Steve Smith. Just would be an interesting matchup speed vs speed......... Your thoughts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCMONEY Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 That would be a nice match up. The thing is would the old hands on rule be implemented or todays rules where you damn near can't get physical at all. I could be wrong, but I don't think Smith and Moss could've been as effective in the old days as they are today. WR's back then were almost mauled at the live od scrimmage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 DG took out speed receivers, partly because he was always faster than them and that took away their primary advantage. I think he would have been great against them. The only guys he had problems with were the really big receivers who could push off. The quick and the fast guys Green closed down. Even in his late thirties, Green matched up with Randy Moss and shut him down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slateman Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 Green would dominate. Come on! Its freaking Darrel Green. If he walked on water, none of us would be suprised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walking Deadman Posted June 21, 2006 Author Share Posted June 21, 2006 Green would dominate. Come on! Its freaking Darrel Green. If he walked on water, none of us would be suprised Heck, I told my wife today that if he wanted to, he could easily still play in the NFL as a nickle or dime DB IMO. BTW: Apparently DG's son (a WR) is getting looked at by some local colleges (VTech, Umaryland, WVU) and may be coming to a stadium near you one day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskinsfanjm30 Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 Green would shut down santana moss, randle el, and patten. The only receiver I could see DG struggling against is Lloyd because of his route running and even Lloyd wouldn’t really beat DG because of DGs recovery speed and his ability to read his routes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskinsfanjm30 Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 Heck, I told my wife today that if he wanted to, he could easily still play in the NFL as a nickle or dime DB IMO.BTW: Apparently DG's son (a WR) is getting looked at by some local colleges (VTech, Umaryland, WVU) and may be coming to a stadium near you one day Do you know his sons name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 Speedy guys had no chance against Green. The players that gave him trouble were guys like Irvin who could outmuscle Green for the ball. But nobody consistantly beat Green or juked him out of coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 This would present interesting matchups. These WR's not only have the speed, they "appear" to have much more upper body strength the WR's of old. I'd still go with money, DG! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IM A REDSKIN FAN Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 DARRELL GREEN WOULD SHUT DOWN BOTH. AT THE SAME TIME :notworthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glikster04 Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 If he walked on water, none of us would be suprised its funny cuz its true... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kappaluvacee Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 It's too hard to compare because they play in a different era, rules wise. I do agree with those who say he would have negated their speed with his own. I also think Darrell would have won those matches because he had another quality that gets overlooked. Darrell was pesky. He always was with a receiver on the route after the QB released the ball. That takes away from a receiver’s ability to adjust to the ball because he would be tipping Darrell off to the balls location. Did I mention Darrell had hops that were out of this world. He tried to take balls that were still at the highest point in the air. No jump-balls on D. Green! Santana mentioned his greatest asset is not his speed, he said it is his ability to adjust to any ball thrown his direction without breaking his stride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afparent Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 We would never know...the QBs and Offensive Coordinators wouldn't throw to DGs side when he was in his prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaudry Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 Even in his late thirties, Green matched up with Randy Moss and shut him down. I wish people would stop saying this because it wasn't true. Green got a pass interference call on a long bomb that lead to an easy 1 yard TD for the Vikes. Green jumped on Moss' back as his only way of stopping the TD. If we don't count penalties, yes Darrell did shut down Moss. If we don't count penalties we might as well put Chris Dishman in the Hall of Fame right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyf316 Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 Under current rules, the advantage normally goes to the offensive player. We've already established that speed guys wouldn't beat Green in his prime. As much as I love Moss and respect Smith, I think Green would be able to generally shut either down. I'm sure that any catches they made against him would be hard-earned, and I can't see them burning him at any time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red zone Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 I wish people would stop saying this because it wasn't true. Green got a pass interference call on a long bomb that lead to an easy 1 yard TD for the Vikes. Green jumped on Moss' back as his only way of stopping the TD.If we don't count penalties, yes Darrell did shut down Moss. If we don't count penalties we might as well put Chris Dishman in the Hall of Fame right now. Wow. Talk about some revisionist history. D. Green played one of his best games against Randy Moss. Moss mentions Green as one of those guys who could in fact, cover him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins4481 Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 Santana Moss would at least get one deep ball on Green. That guy can adjust to long balls so easily its ridiculous. Joe Gibbs even said that he has never seen anyone who can adjust to the long balls like Moss can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 The only guys he had problems with were the really big receivers who could push off. *cough* Irvin *cough* D-Green was the man. He was a freak of nature - he was over 40 when he called it quits...and still could have started for several teams in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaudry Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 Wow. Talk about some revisionist history. D. Green played one of his best games against Randy Moss. Moss mentions Green as one of those guys who could in fact, cover him. Everything I stated about Green covering Moss is 100% fact. How you can possibly call it revisionist history completely amazes me. You didn't dispute any fact that I stated. Tell me how I am wrong and I will gladly listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thirtyfive2seven Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 D Green only had problems with big receivers that liked to push off like Michael Irvin. I don't think he would have too much trouble shutting down any speedster like Moss or Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcarey032 Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 He (Darrell) would have been great. He was still kick major you know what out in that flag football game in HI. I bet he can still get below a 4.4/40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgundyBlood Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 I wish people would stop saying this because it wasn't true. Green got a pass interference call on a long bomb that lead to an easy 1 yard TD for the Vikes. Green jumped on Moss' back as his only way of stopping the TD.If we don't count penalties, yes Darrell did shut down Moss. If we don't count penalties we might as well put Chris Dishman in the Hall of Fame right now. Dude...why are you hating on Dishman? He was one of the few CBs in the league back in 96-97 who could give back all the down-field violence that WRs like Irvin were so famous for. I remember back in 97 when he was a Skin he certainly held his own vs Irvin. It was only in 98 after the reinterpretation of the PI rules that he became useless. How does it not bring a tear to your eye remembering Irvin getting mauled by Dishman during the 97 season and the refs letting it go?? Dishman and Green '97 were my favorite Skins DB combo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jizmaglobin Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 Why would a new list or WR's have any more success than the likes of Rice,Irvin etc.? Darrel covered everybody 1on1 then and he'd do it today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRMADD Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 It used to be that defensive backs would maul receivers coming off the line. Offenses countered by finding bigger WRs. Then defenses found bigger DBs. Then the NFL thought, "Hey, who wants to watch a wrestling match downfield instead of the long ball?" and changed the rules to reduce the man-handling. Offenses switched back to tiny fast receivers, and defenses are switching back to tiny fast defenders. Darrell Green, however, was never a physical corner. He'd be even better today than he was back then, because he's perfect for the modern game: he's lightning quick, and straight line faster than any receiver. If you can't touch, you want Darrell Green. So the answer, obviously, is that Steve Smith would politely ask Darrell Green if he could carry his jockstrap for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PA Skin Fan Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 Santana Moss would at least get one deep ball on Green. That guy can adjust to long balls so easily its ridiculous. Joe Gibbs even said that he has never seen anyone who can adjust to the long balls like Moss can. This wouldn't happen. Can anyone remember a long bomb for a TD caught against Darrell? I'm sure there were a few, but none really come to mind. Yeah, sometimes he got beat, but it was rare indeed. He regularly SHUT DOWN the top WR of the other team. I love Santana, but this would be his statistics against DG: 3 catches, 38 yards. :notworthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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