Friend of the Devil Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 Taylor Jacobs I couldn't agree more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskinsfanjm30 Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 I know a canidate for full back, Donnel Bennit. I remeber Marty praiseing Bennit in traning camp but he never made a play in a game. He also was Marty's replacement for Larry Centers the full back who had the game winning touchdown against the 49ers for the Divison Title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRay Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 Anyone remember a running back for us name Robert Green? they were kind of high on this kid. He had a couple of nice runs but never panned out he went to the Bears and fizzled as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokie4redskins Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 I think Pettibon is getting a raw deal here. Besides exhaustion, family, etc., one reason Gibbs retired is because he didn't have the heart to tell a lot of men who fought their guts out for him that they were finished. When Pettibon took over, the hogs were old and creaky. We made a good run but Pettibon would've had to completely rebuild the Redskins from the ground up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouvan59 Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 Anyone remember a running back for us name Robert Green? they were kind of high on this kid. He had a couple of nice runs but never panned out he went to the Bears and fizzled as well. I remember him. He went to my alma mater, Friendly HS. I wouldn't call him a bust though. I'm pretty sure he was an UFA so there were no real expectations. He was a water-bug type that never really got a real shot even though he had a pretty high career ypc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouvan59 Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 Ki-Jana Carter Carter was a bust for the Bengals but I would call him a pleasant surprise for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouvan59 Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 Is it just me, but before this year Deion was one of the players who helped The SKINS get to there last playoff birth! Deion was not a part of the 1999 Skins. He came the next year and was a major part of the most disappointing Skins team in nearly 20 years. What's more, Deion has not been a part of a team that won a playoff game since 1996 which is a full 4 years before he came to the Skins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullets1978 Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 Santana_Fan, Tony Banks became the starter because Jeff George was just plain awful. I would not say he was a bust. He is what he is, just another average to below average qb. He was the best of the crop, Jeff George and Kent Graham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grhqofb5 Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 I have to add Chris Dishman to the list. He came in highly touted from the Oilers then did nothing opposite DG.Why are Skip Hicks and Stephan Alexander mentioned. Was either highly touted out of college? Alexander could have been a perrenial pro-bowler if not for the injuries. Dishman's first year with the team was pretty good. I remember a segment on FOX about him and Darrell Green, detailing how well they played despite the fact that they were both pretty old for their positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grhqofb5 Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 Timmy Smith DID beat out Kelvin Bryant. I can remember Timmy Smith starting out the '88 season pretty well. I was still really young, and I noticed that he pretty much just disappeared. My dad told me it was because of "drugs." Then again, any time I noticed someone wasn't around anymore my dad would tell me it was because of drugs. It was his personal drug prevention program he created for me. Damn, I thought the challenger space shuttle blew up because of drugs. I thought Michael Dukakis lost the '88 election because of drugs, and that Eddie Murray left the orioles because of drugs.... Man, that made for some embarassing later life conversations. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 I think Pettibon is getting a raw deal here.Besides exhaustion, family, etc., one reason Gibbs retired is because he didn't have the heart to tell a lot of men who fought their guts out for him that they were finished. When Pettibon took over, the hogs were old and creaky. We made a good run but Pettibon would've had to completely rebuild the Redskins from the ground up. He'd already done that with Riggo and JT, both of who wanted to continue at least at the time (I think he even had to cut Riggo). It was that he didn't want to go into another rebuild program more akin to what he had in 1981 than '85 or '88. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 BTW, an all-time bust at WR was Walter Murry #2 in 1986, never played a down for us and played just two years for Indy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhutanibeast Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 HC: Norv TurnerQB: Heath Shuler RB: Skip Hicks, Jaime Morris WR: Michael Westbrook, Albert Connell, Desmond Howard TE: Stephen Alexander DT: Dana Stubblefield I'm drawing blanks, but I know there are numerous other players that made me scream at the TV and throw ****. Are you kidding me? Stephen Alexander does not deserve to be on there. All the guy did was produce. and the HC definitely deserves to be Spurrier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMP Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 To be a bust somebody must have thought you were going to be good: Shar Pourdanesh wasn't even a draft pick. If he would have been any good, it would have been a pleasant surprise. Steven Alexander was the 18th pick in the second round- not where many HOFers are drafted. He was a productive pro that was really to small to play TE and take on LB's and DL, but everybody knew his size was an issue coming out of college. Read any of the pre- or post-draft analysis. The problem is he was overhyped by the coaches/management as being the next Novaceck. Rocky is in a similar position. Where he was drafted, if he goes on to play 5-10 as a part time starter, it will be an okay draft pick even if he has some injury issues, but he is being billed as the replacement of LaVar whom was the 2nd pick in the draft. It's just not fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddub52 Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 this list could be as longer than our season ticket waiting list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0crates Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 Poor Desmond Howard gets such a bad wrap, he did win a Super Bowl MVP Award didn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsDukes Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 Coach: Steve SpurrierQuarterback: Heath Shuler Runningback: Trung Candidate Fullback: IDK Wide Reciever #1: Jaquez Green Wide Reciever #2: Michael Westbrook Tight End:Zeron Flemister Left Tackle: Andre Johnson Left Guard: Tre Johnson Center: Cory Raymer Right Guard: David Loverne Right Tackle: IDK Defensive End: Kenard Lang Defensive Tackle: IDK Defensive Tackle: IDK Defensive End: Daryl Gardener Outside Linebacker: Jessie Armstead Middle Linebacker: IDK Outside Linebacker: IDK...Shawn Barber. Corners: We have always had good corners... Safety: Sam Shade Free Safety: Keith Lyle Kicker: Brett Conway, Jose Cortez. Punter: Uhh...Matt Turk? Bryan Barker? Who knows... Not to bash you, but I'm not sure how some of those guys could be considered busts. Flemister was an UDFA if I remember correctly, so the fact that he made the team and contributed for a few years means he beat the odds off the bat, so not a bust. Gardener was a heck of a DT here for a year before he decided to go for the big money. We got him off the scrap heap and he was likely our best defensively player that year, definitely not a bust. Barber was a very solid linebacker and has had a nice career, same could be said of Raymer. Finally I suppose you could say the injuries hurt Tre, but I'd hardly call our best offensively linemen during those years a bust...if he would have stayed healthy Tre would be held in very high esteem in the Skins annuals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsDukes Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 Santana_Fan, Tony Banks became the starter because Jeff George was just plain awful. I would not say he was a bust. He is what he is, just another average to below average qb. He was the best of the crop, Jeff George and Kent Graham. No, Tony Banks became the starter because Marty was convinced he could mold George, and then when Schotty realized what the rest of the NFL already knew (George wasn't a team player), we were left to go with Banks (which Dallas had dumped earlier). Considering the change happened very early in the year (I want to say George was cut after about the 2nd or 3rd game), it wasn't because he was plain awful, it was because he was an awful character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRay Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 I remember him. He went to my alma mater, Friendly HS. I wouldn't call him a bust though. I'm pretty sure he was an UFA so there were no real expectations. He was a water-bug type that never really got a real shot even though he had a pretty high career ypc. You're right man it was going to be kind of hard for him to get the touches he wanted.. He had an unique style of running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRay Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 Carter was a bust for the Bengals but I would call him a pleasant surprise for us. I agree again considering he came off another injury he played pretty solid for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fury010 Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 My All Bust Team: Offense QB Heath Shuler RB Trung Canidate RB Timmy Smith (After the Super Bowl of course) WR Alvin Harper WR Rod Gardner TE OT Andre Johnson OG Andre Johnson C Andre Johnson OG Andre Johnson OT Andre Johnson DE Bruce Smith DT Dana Stubblefield DT Big Daddy DE LaVar Arrington LB Warwick Holdman LB Derek Smith LB LaVar Arrington CB Tory Nixon CB Deion Sanders S Mark Carrier S Matt Bowen P Derrick Frost K Max Zendejas Coach Steve Spurrier and Norval Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GestMuddaTruckaEver Posted June 21, 2006 Author Share Posted June 21, 2006 Chad F-ing Morton. . . . that is the one player no one has thought of. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IM A REDSKIN FAN Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 My All Bust Team:Offense QB Heath Shuler RB Trung Canidate RB Timmy Smith (After the Super Bowl of course) WR Alvin Harper WR Rod Gardner TE OT Andre Johnson OG Andre Johnson C Andre Johnson OG Andre Johnson OT Andre Johnson DE Bruce Smith DT Dana Stubblefield DT Big Daddy DE LaVar Arrington LB Warwick Holdman LB Derek Smith LB LaVar Arrington CB Tory Nixon CB Deion Sanders S Mark Carrier S Matt Bowen P Derrick Frost K Max Zendejas Coach Steve Spurrier and Norval :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkatz Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 HC: Steve Spurrier (or any coach really after Gibbs left)QB: Heath Shuler, Jeff George, Patrick Ramsey (yes he was a bust for US regardless of the cirmustances) RB:Trung Candidate, Reggie Brooks WR:Desmond Howard, Michael Westbrook, Taylor Jacobs,Rod Gardner, Alvin Harper, agree with every Receiver Spurrier had except for Coles. TE:Stephen Alexander (1 pro-bowl for a second rd. pick doesn't cut it, and he was injury prone) LB:Andre Johnson, Mike Barrow, J. Trotter Safeties: Stanley Richards, James Washington DL:Dana Stubblefield, Big Daddy (played well but never dominated), Sean Gilbert, Kenard Lang Bruce Smith wasn't a bust. He gave us double digit sacks and up until his last year, he was the only one to apply pressure. CB:Neon (wasn't the same playmaker and quit after one year) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan1992 Posted June 21, 2006 Share Posted June 21, 2006 the biggest bust in my opinion is HEATH SHULER if we never got him and kept Trent Green imagine the possibilities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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