skinfan2k Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 I know stephen davis career came to a downfall when steve spurrier was here. But would davis be gibbs perfect back or should we be happy that we have CP? Im not talkin about age, have the skins found a perfect back for the gibbs system.. I knoe that davis only had a few yrs in him...Plz elaborate. BTW, what is the franchise record for most yards in a redskins uni? is CP close enough or does he have a few more seasons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsfan1311 Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 Clinton Portis. IMHO, he's more versatile and plays with more heart. He's a playmaker, and one helluva blocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewCliche21 Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 I know stephen davis career came to a downfall when steve spurrier was here. But would davis be gibbs perfect back or should we be happy that we have CP? Im not talkin about age, have the skins found a perfect back for the gibbs system.. I knoe that davis only had a few yrs in him...Plz elaborate. BTW, what is the franchise record for most yards in a redskins uni? is CP close enough or does he have a few more seasons? I like this thread and was thinking about it during last season. While I feel that Davis would've been the prototypical Gibbs back, a modern Riggins-esque back, I think that we're better off with Portis. Gibbs has the uncanny ability to adjust to whatever the league gives him, and his signing of Saunders shows that he's willing to get a guy who can make Portis even better. I think that Davis would be an 8 in Gibbs's new system, but Portis is a near-ten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiveStrongSkins Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 Davis, in his prime was a very good runner in between the tackles. If we never were to get CP, than getting rid of Davis looks like a bonehead move since he is a very good runner in between the tackles. However, since we were able to get Portis he adds more explosion and big plays to the lineup. I believe tweaking to Portis's style is far more productive than the continuous pounding of Steven Davis. Having said that, I would love to have a healthy stephen davis come back and spell Portis for about 8-10 carries a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 I know stephen davis career came to a downfall when steve spurrier was here. But would davis be gibbs perfect back or should we be happy that we have CP? Im not talkin about age, have the skins found a perfect back for the gibbs system.. I knoe that davis only had a few yrs in him...Plz elaborate. BTW, what is the franchise record for most yards in a redskins uni? is CP close enough or does he have a few more seasons? The problem with this comparison is that the system has changed. Davis would have been the perfect back when Gibbs first came back into the league and still ran the same set counter trey, 70 chip etc.. A big bruising back that could shake off tackles and eat up yards. It took a full year with Gibbs and Portis on the same team to revamp the offense, to go to a more athletic mindset with the O-line, to impliment a zone blocking scheme, and to run more off tackle and gap technique plays. So the answer to your question is both and neither at the same time :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 If you had asked this question last year I think i would have said SD. Having Jansen back on the R side of the line really helped Portis this year, so did another year of working w/ Gibbs and Byner. After two years in our system I think Portis is everything that a "Gibbs player" requires and then some. He is an absolute beast!!!! Team player, great blocker, fights for yards and isn't afraid of contact... sounds about right. Portis could end up being the best back the Skins have ever had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinzOwnU Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 Portis is the perfect back for this upcoming season. Given how spread defenses are going to be on every down thanks to our new wide receiver corps, portis will provide us with tough running and home-run potential every time he touches the ball. Thats exactly what we are going to want if the offense pans out as expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted May 12, 2006 Author Share Posted May 12, 2006 i hope we can find a jerome bettis or brandon jacobs type rb for the backup position. I mean i really dont' like betts at all.. He is a straight down hill runner with no moves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted May 12, 2006 Author Share Posted May 12, 2006 do u really think that al saunders will change the entire system? i think it may be minor tweaking and add a few more plays to the playbook. Because u know if its 3rd and short, u know what gibbs likes to run counter trey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewCliche21 Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 do u really think that al saunders will change the entire system? i think it may be minor tweaking and add a few more plays to the playbook. Because u know if its 3rd and short, u know what gibbs likes to run counter trey. I think it'll be a 25-33% change. Remember that both Gibbs and Saunders come from the Air Coryell offense. With a Gibbs/Saunders offense, I agree that we'd have to use Sellers or Rock or Betts for a third and short, but I don't think that you'll be seeing too many third downs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Prime Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 Trung Candidate owns all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewCliche21 Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 Trung Candidate owns all Hahaha, definitely! Close the thread, we have our top running back selected! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana_Fan Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 Davis had a huge fumbling problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins84 Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 Give me Stephen Davis in his prime, TD machine! :logo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana_Fan Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 I wonder if Al Saunders will make CP change his style of running with the ball in the arm closest to the defender, instead of away from the defender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewCliche21 Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 I wonder if Al Saunders will make CP change his style of running with the ball in the arm closest to the defender, instead of away from the defender. Wait, I don't understand how that could possibly be beneficial. Can you explain why Saunders would want that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRay Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 Love CP but you have to give me Stephen Davis in his prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 If we get the average production on the ground from Saunders tenure with the Rams and Chefs I'd be very happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana_Fan Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 Wait, I don't understand how that could possibly be beneficial. Can you explain why Saunders would want that? I didn't say he would want that, I was saying, I wonder if he will teach him to run with the ball in his arm away from the defenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewCliche21 Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 I didn't say he would want that, I was saying, I wonder if he will teach him to run with the ball in his arm away from the defenders. Oh, it sounded like you had it backwards and wanted him to run with the ball in the arm closest to the defenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor ToughLove Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 Portis over Davis - no contest. Portis is an elite back, Davis never was elite. Stephen Davis couldn't even beat out Terry Allen his first three years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donita35 Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 This actually a good topic, definitely something to think about. I would have to go with CP just because SD did fumble a lot. CP to me has yet to have his biggest season and I think that will be the upcoming season. SD was a pounder IMO (more than CP) plus he could make moves when necessary and he was a touchdown machine. But in the end CP never got beat up by Westbrook, :doh: so I will take CP... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donita35 Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 I didn't say he would want that, I was saying, I wonder if he will teach him to run with the ball in his arm away from the defenders. I was thinking the same thing. Glad that was cleared up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewCliche21 Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 Portis over Davis - no contest. Portis is an elite back, Davis never was elite. Stephen Davis couldn't even beat out Terry Allen his first three years. Well, I wouldn't knock Terry Allen. He did have our single-season record for a few years, which means he beat out the god that is Riggo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted May 12, 2006 Author Share Posted May 12, 2006 how bout this discussion? JOhn Riggins or Stephen davis? or John riggins vs. CP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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