zoony Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Texas is not the South. I know Texans like to think so, but it is not true. The South is: Virginia north Carolina South Carolina Georgia Florida Alabama Mississippi Tennessee Louisiana Arkansas, Kentucky, and West Viriginia are all northern / midwestern states, contrary to what many believe. Texas is not even on the radar. ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Punani2 Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Florida is part of the South but weird setup. The more south you go in the State the less "South" it is. Northern Florida is the most Southern. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rincewind Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Here is one I have always had trouble with: People calling San Fransisco Nothern California. San Fran is right in the middle of CA. If that is Northen CA, then what is Sacramento? I think that is because that ain't much north of San Fran (with the exception of Sac-town - and that is more central). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 It's a historical thing, I guess. Hail to the Victors Valiant Hail to the Conq'ring Heroes Hail Hail to Michigan the Leaders and Best Hail to the Victors Valiant Hail to the Conq'ring Heroes Hail Hail to Michigan the Champions of the West Michigan used to be the West, as far as the country was concerned, because it wasn't "East." To me, Texas is the South. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 I still know some folks in the mountains of Northern Virginia that are still fighting the war. They would probably take exception to not being considered "Southern" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 I still know some folks in the mountains of Northern Virginia that are still fighting the war.They would probably take exception to not being considered "Southern" Virginia is most definitely the South. No question. .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Punani2 Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Texas is not the South. I know Texans like to think so, but it is not true. The South is: Virginia north Carolina South Carolina Georgia Florida Alabama Mississippi Tennessee Louisiana Arkansas, Kentucky, and West Viriginia are all northern / midwestern states, contrary to what many believe. Texas is not even on the radar. ....... I would disagree on Arkansas and Kentucky. I would put them as southern states. West Virginia I agree with. They are more like the Great Lakes States (Penn/Ohio). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Evidente Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Texas is not the South. I know Texans like to think so, but it is not true. The South is: Virginia north Carolina South Carolina Georgia Florida Alabama Mississippi Tennessee Louisiana Arkansas, Kentucky, and West Viriginia are all northern / midwestern states, contrary to what many believe. Texas is not even on the radar. ....... Please explain why you think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 I have always been confused by people who live in Ohio and bordering states who refer to themselves as mid-westerners.Wouldn't the midwest really be states like Kansas, Nebraska, etc? Ohio is where the midwest begins. Ohio is the quintessential midwestern state. Goes back to the days when Ohio was considered the gateway to the west. (well before St Louis got that nickname) .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjTj Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Florida is part of the South but weird setup. The more south you go in the State the less "South" it is. Northern Florida is the most Southern. lol It's because the world is round. If you keep driving south, you end up in the north again. ...I think the South is defined by the number of Waffle Houses there are. If you're in a decent-sized town and people don't know where the nearest Waffle House is, then you're not in the South. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Here is one I have always had trouble with: People calling San Fransisco Nothern California. San Fran is right in the middle of CA. If that is Northen CA, then what is Sacramento? That's a cultural rivalry thing. SoCal revolves around LA, includes San Diego, and implies beaches, Hollywood, automobiles and freeways, etc. NoCal revolves around San Francisco, includes Sacto and San Jose and implies forests, hippies, high tech, wine and food snobs, etc.. Californians tend to identify with one or the other in an ongoing cultural war between the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfitzo53 Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 ...I think the South is defined by the number of Waffle Houses there are. If you're in a decent-sized town and people don't know where the nearest Waffle House is, then you're not in the South. One of the South's best qualities, in my opinion. :hungry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinz4evr Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 If that's the case Maryland would be in the 'south.' Alot of Maryland WAS below the mason-dixon line, therefore the South, so people from most of Maryland CAN claim to be Southerners. Richmond, Va. was the CAPITOL of the Confederacy, so anyone who lives in VA. and would be offended by hearing they are from the South is really ignorant. Alot of your Western states were largely unsettled, like Texas, but Texas did secede from the Union too(more correctly, they wanted to be their own NATION), so your friends in Texas would be correct in calling themselves Southerners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Punani2 Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 It's because the world is round. If you keep driving south, you end up in the north again....I think the South is defined by the number of Waffle Houses there are. If you're in a decent-sized town and people don't know where the nearest Waffle House is, then you're not in the South. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 I would disagree on Arkansas and Kentucky. I would put them as southern states. West Virginia I agree with. They are more like the Great Lakes States (Penn/Ohio). Kentucky could swing either way... because it has a definite southern feel to it. However when you get to northern kentucky, it feels a lot midwestern. But alas, they were not a confederate state, so Kentucky goes to the midwest. Arkansas... they might be a southern state, I could be convinced, but in the times I've spent there nothing about it strikes me as 'southern'. They were a confederate state, so maybe they are part of the south, I dunno. West Virginia seceeded from Virginia to join the north... so no question about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Punani2 Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 I would add Kansas to the south. You ever hear Richard Christie's dad talk on the Stern Show? Do you know what an Arkansas tooth pick is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rincewind Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 ...I think the South is defined by the number of Waffle Houses there are. If you're in a decent-sized town and people don't know where the nearest Waffle House is, then you're not in the South. > Waffle House Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannonshogs44 Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Living in North Carolina myself its getting harder to know where the south stops and the North starts. We have more and more people move to the south from the north and its really starting to change. My wife is from St. Pete Fla, and she did not think of herself as being from the south. So who really know anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 One of the South's best qualities, in my opinion. :hungry: Damn skippy! I haven't been to a Waffle House in three years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdowwe Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Us yankees got Waffle Houses too. I think theres 3 within 5 miles of my house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Punani2 Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Living in North Carolina myself its getting harder to know where the south stops and the North starts. We have more and more people move to the south from the north and its really starting to change. My wife is from St. Pete Fla, and she did not think of herself as being from the south. So who really know anymore Especically in your neck of the woods. My mom just retired and moved to Brevard, NC from MD. She said a a lot of people moving there are from all over the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 > Waffle House based in Lebanon, TN :cool: (my wifes hometown) We had our wedding reception at a restored mansion that Cracker Barrell corp owns... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EersSkins05 Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Having lived in a border state (WV), and two states actually IN the South (SC and NC), and traveled the country extensively, I'd say that the South is a cultural distinction more than anything. These factors help: 1) The sweet tea test is dead on- can you get a glass of sweet tea at every restaurant? 2) Waffle house count- also a good test 3) Do the locals eat grits? 4) If you're asking your friends if they want to go somewhere, do you say "Do you guys want to go..." or do you say "Do y'all want to go..." Now Florida is a tough state to determine b/c there are so many people living there that have moved from northern states. But Florida, in many parts, is decidedly Southern. Texas is out, even though some of the factors apply. It's not the South. It's either Southwest or a category unto itself. The primary image of a southerner is not a Cowboy. Maryland and Northern Virginia are out. All of West Virginia south of Beckley is in. (One county in southern WV, Mercer, actually tried to succede from the Confederacy AND the Union to form its own state). The Wikipedia thing included Delaware? Now I know why I never trust Wikipedia for anything... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfitzo53 Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 We had our wedding reception at a At this point in the sentence I was ready to laugh my ass off if it ended with "Cracker Barrel." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannonshogs44 Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Especically in your neck of the woods. My mom just retired and moved to Brevard, NC from MD. She said a a lot of people moving there are from all over the US.Brevard is a very nice place to live. Im only one county over from Brevard. My wife and I are trying to buy some land there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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