cphil006 Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 Buck Ortega played QB in high school on the SAME TEAM as Sean Taylor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 ....according to the Miami Herald.Another player from "The U".... He's listed as 6'5" and 225 lbs on ESPN's web site. Sounds like the Tony Gonzalez type receiving TE Saunders might want. But he'd have to seriously bulk up... by God, he is probowl type of TE. can you imagine him and Cooley in the formations. great pickup :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDSKNfaithfull Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 That is a great pick up I wish we would have gotten Hill as well but Buck is solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVPWilliams17 Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 That's not what you were saying.You were saying I compared Ortega to Gonzalez because they have Mexican last names. That is hilarious. You accuse me of something only *you* thought of. And nowhere do I compare Ortega to Gonzales in terms of quality. I compare the two in terms of style i.e. both are pass catching TEs with downfield ability. Neither are blocking TEs to say the least. Obviously some of us are just not thinking before they post. Slow your roll partner! I said you drew comparison to T. Gonzalez because of the latino connection with their names. YES!!! By mentioning Ortega, you are comparing what YOU think he can be in the NFL someday. What else would you be comparing him too? AGAIN, why compare to Gonzalez is all I'm stating? The guy is an undrafted free agent and shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence. Would take a guy coming out of college that was signed as an undrafted minor league player in baseball and compare him to Barry Bonds, just because he was the same size as Barry Bonds? Yet you pick the ONLY other latino TE in the league and compare this guy to him... So yes, one could deduce that you were making a comparison based on the shared racial/cultural heritage of the two players. It's ok though, it happens all the time. I was just stating that it is a very *silly* way of lviewing players and making comparisons. That is all. :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProBowler Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 :applause: The posted article is right on about this guy. I like this guy better than some of our draft picks. He has the talent to be every bit as good as Cooley and could be very good on special teams. Here's another link: http://hurricanesports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/ortega_buck00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVPWilliams17 Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 :applause: The posted article is right on about this guy. I like this guy better than some of our draft picks. He has the talent to be every bit as good as Cooley and could be very good on special teams. Here's another link: http://hurricanesports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/ortega_buck00.html Thanks for the link! :applause: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishomelette Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 Slow your roll partner!I said you drew comparison to T. Gonzalez because of the latino connection with their names. YES!!! ... So yes, one could deduce that you were making a comparison based on the shared racial/cultural heritage of the two players. It's ok though, it happens all the time. I was just stating that it is a very *silly* way of lviewing players and making comparisons. That is all. :2cents: It's a stretch what you're saying. You thought of it not him...should've stuck with the apology post. This guy is likely going to struggle to make the roster regardless of potential IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flexxskins Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 It looks like this guy just needs a chance to shine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gortiz Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 Buck Ortega... with a name like that he can't lose! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostofAlvinWalton Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 ....Sounds like the Tony Gonzalez type receiving TE Saunders might want. . Sorry guys, there is no defense for the above statement. Wasn't McCune going to be the starting MLB last year? According to A LOT of morons on this site he was. Could this kid be good one day? Sure. Should anyone EVER compare an UNDRAFTED player to a perennial probowler? No....never. :2cents: . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh90286 Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 I didn't even realize that Hill wasn't drafted. I would really love to pick him up, he was a monster at Miami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 This guy is going to spend time on the practice squad and NFLEL for a few years to see if he can even pan out in the NFL. There is a reason why guys like this go undrafted :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPstretch Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 we need buck to gain 30 pounds and he will be a beast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIDETHEWALRUS Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 It makes perfect sense to compare a nobody to a perrenial probowler if their styles are comprable. Never in his post did he say Ortega was going to be better than Gonzalez or even comprable in production. He said he was tall with solid athleticism and good hands. It is like comparing Sinorice Moss with Santana. Both are little guys with big speed. The fact that Sinorice was not nearly as effective in college as Santana nor the fact that they are brothers does not make this comparison stupid. The fact that they are both black and therefore I must be making a racial comparison makes it stupid:silly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaganaut Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 Have we checked this guy's immigration papers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVPWilliams17 Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 It makes perfect sense to compare a nobody to a perrenial probowler if their styles are comprable. Never in his post did he say Ortega was going to be better than Gonzalez or even comprable in production. He said he was tall with solid athleticism and good hands. It is like comparing Sinorice Moss with Santana. Both are little guys with big speed. The fact that Sinorice was not nearly as effective in college as Santana nor the fact that they are brothers does not make this comparison stupid. The fact that they are both black and therefore I must be making a racial comparison makes it stupid:silly: ??? Did you even read any of my subsequent posts. Particularly the point I made about the comparison in baseball of an undrafted free agent minor league player to Barry Bonds, one of our era's greatest to suit up. Is that not a similar situation to what we have here with comparing an undrafted free agent to this era's greatest TE. The leap in the comparison comes when you examine the ONLY tie between the two is their shared latino heritage/name. This is not something that, I just perceived, it is a valid point. Sometimes things occur to people deliberatelyand other times subconciously, and it happens alot in the media (of which many people are influenced) all the time and that it is a silly, thoughtless process. That is the crux of my whole statement! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltimateSkins Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 I don't really see this guy going anywhere. Theres already tight end depth with Cooley, Fauria, Sellers and Robert Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clathel Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 I will interject at this point that the argument of picking Gonzales to compare Ortega to based on his last name and race, and not the fact that both were or will be coached by Al Saunders and similar in frame is as silly as saying that if you look at the last 2 drafts we drafted McCune and McIntosh as LB's, so there must be a rule on the Skins that every year we have to draft a person with an Mc in their name to be a LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVPWilliams17 Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 I will interject at this point that the argument of picking Gonzales to compare Ortega to based on his last name and race, and not the fact that both were or will be coached by Al Saunders and similar in frame is as silly as saying that if you look at the last 2 drafts we drafted McCune and McIntosh as LB's, so there must be a rule on the Skins that every year we have to draft a person with an Mc in their name to be a LB. Oh, and that NEVER happens, where one player is compared to another of similar racial cultural background and not necessarily skill-level. Riiiight!!! What was I thinking? :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleazye Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 i think this guy ortiz has the oppertunity to be a kind of tony gonzalez, orlindo mare, martin gramatica, albert pujols type of athlete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPstretch Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 someone picked up quadrine hill, it may have been houston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indaslums Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 I just read that he was recruited to Miami to play QB but moved to tight end.He'd have to get up to at least around 240 or 245 to play tight end, if even that. They might be looking at him as a QB. If he couldn't play QB in college what makes you think a pro team would even consider that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air Force Cane Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 Buck could not make it as a QB against Dorsey/Berlin/Wright so they moved him to TE/Athlete his first year. he never really was a difference maker, but the guy has heart and is a Gibbs type of player. All that said, he won't make this team... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPstretch Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 he may have bulked up to 225. i dont know how much more bulking up he has in him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meetST Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 OMG! whoa....awsome...Ortega was a good solid starter/backup for us at TE.....so I'm sure he'll continue to be a solid for the skins too....whoop whoop...that's 5 CANES!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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