Peregrine Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 First off our recieving core consists of WRs that were #1 or #2 on CHAMPIONSHIP teams. To say they cant cut it here is foolish. Frankly, our passing offense outside of Mr. Moss was just poor last year, as it has been. Maybe it wasnt the WRs fault. Second, no good coach is going to bash his players and say they cant cut it, and they need to find someone to replace them. Thats for the media and the fans. Third, you dont want to tell people who or what you are going after, tipping your hand is bad in business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailYeah Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 I think what he was saying is last year was Taylor's "real" rookie season because he was injured his first two years.. He was injured last year too a bit. Regardless he's proven he's not sure handed and can't stay healthy, he needs to go. Gotcha. I agree. No, no, not at all. While I know he has been in the league for a few years now, I just feel that he is finally being implemented into the gameplan. I just don't know that Brunell trusted him enough this year to give him enough chances to get things going. I see. I'd be interested to know how many people are in your camp but I'd wager not many. Taylor has had his opportunities to step up and he hasn't taken them. I dont know if this organization want to invest anymore time/money in this guy. I expect the Redskins to do what Joe Gibbs says they will do. This is: 1)Pay respect to the guys on the team now who have fought their guts out for you (but in reality wont cut it), 2) make football related decisions, 3) "move forward" in the areas that need the most help. I think when its all said and done one of these areas will be WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant15fromNJ Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 No I think we will get some type of WR though draft or FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Man Burgendy & Gold Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Gibbs is smart as hell. We are common fans, but it isn't to hard to understand that we don't need to tip off any other teams about our offseason plans, or make ourselves seem desperate so other teams can increase the asking price. Whatever Gibbs said, he was just being diplomatic. I hate to sound smug, but this is not very hard to get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jofizz Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 If David Patten stays healthy, he can be a solid number 2. But i still believe we will seek other recievers once free agency begins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philal0102 Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 we really need a GOOD #2 reciever because patten is a good #3 and thrash is a better special teams player and i think that jacobs is crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atloldskin Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 DRAFT A TE!! With Saunders, it will make our WRs that much better. But I do want to get a #2 WR and put Patten in the slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiswadeness Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Maybe Gibbs should just tell everyone who he wants on the team. Come on he's old school. No coach is going to say a player on the roster sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHOPSkins Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Patton is an OK #2, He makes Moss grow Work Jacobs till he quits Upgrade the Oline (QB?), It will make all the receivers better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieskin Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 if the skins went out and got a another TEm1/2B, is cooley good enuff to become the number 2 WR:logo: :helmet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 anyone who believes what a HC or GM says about the talent needs of his team as the offseason begins is just foolish. the entree to free agency is like the draft, nobody is going to tip their hand and appear desperate. I don't think there is a real chance of Taylor Jacobs being on the opening day roster for the Skins in 2006. The fact he was mentioned as being in the mix to me is just a red herring thrown out there for media consumption. The fact is Patten caught 22 balls in 9 games and is 33 years old. At his height, he doesn't give the Redskins the taller receiver they need to complement Moss. I agree he is fine as the #3 playing in the slot. He could actually put up good numbers a la Brandon Stokely playing the inside position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ofDaFatBoys Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Gibbs is smart as hell. We are common fans, but it isn't to hard to understand that we don't need to tip off any other teams about our offseason plans, or make ourselves seem desperate so other teams can increase the asking price. Whatever Gibbs said, he was just being diplomatic. I hate to sound smug, but this is not very hard to get. I AGREE FULLY!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Happy Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 We were 6th in the NFL in 3rd down conversion rate, and Brunell had a 65 percent completion rate in the red zone. We don't need a possession receiver. Our problem is the same as it was in 2004. We still don't stretch the field and make teams pay for loading up to stop Portis. You don't do that with a super slow receiver like Joe Jurevicius. We need a deep threat. Gibbs was looking for speed when he got Patten and Moss. Al Saunders had extremely fast guys as his top 3 receivers in KC. This notion that we need a big guy or a possession guy for the #2 WR goes against everything we have been and will be trying to do here. Our #2 WR will be a speedster - not David Givens and especially not Joe Jurevicius. David Givens and Joe Jurevicius put up roughly 700 yards in top offensive systems, and they are the perfect solution at #2 WR? Even if they do somehow match their production when they are put in a worse situation (which they probably won't), it still isn't even that great. We already have a guy like that. His name is David Patten. Signing a slower version of him won't help a thing. It's hard to predict who they like out there to be the #2 WR. It might even be Patten (I doubt it, though). Whoever it is, he will be fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdarugar Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 We were 6th in the NFL in 3rd down conversion rate, and Brunell had a 65 percent completion rate in the red zone. We don't need a possession receiver.Our problem is the same as it was in 2004. We still don't stretch the field and make teams pay for loading up to stop Portis. You don't do that with a super slow receiver like Joe Jurevicius. We need a deep threat. Gibbs was looking for speed when he got Patten and Moss. Al Saunders had extremely fast guys as his top 3 receivers in KC. This notion that we need a big guy or a possession guy for the #2 WR goes against everything we have been and will be trying to do here. Our #2 WR will be a speedster - not David Givens and especially not Joe Jurevicius. David Givens and Joe Jurevicius put up roughly 700 yards in top offensive systems, and they are the perfect solution at #2 WR? Even if they do somehow match their production when they are put in a worse situation (which they probably won't), it still isn't even that great. We already have a guy like that. His name is David Patten. Signing a slower version of him won't help a thing. It's hard to predict who they like out there to be the #2 WR. It might even be Patten (I doubt it, though). Whoever it is, he will be fast. :applause: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louie 14 Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 T Jacobs a rookie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedlamVR Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Damn MR happy just took the damn words out of my mouth and I couldn't put it any better myself . I want to add in the clammor to get a new WR in here we might end up ditching the baby with the bathwater . IF we do get Wayne, pay over the odds and cripple our cap then what is to say he wont have the same production that Patten had last year everyone rembers what happend to Pearless Price. The Buffalo set up with him opposite Molds was ideal for him that gave him the break out year and he has struggled everywhere else . The WR we have now might be the ones who can fit the system best even with a little tweeking ... who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colesfan05 Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Won't it be interesting if Saunders sees a new way to utilize the same recievers we had last year and starts the season with patten at #2 and jacobs at #3. I can't wait to see everyone's threads of doom if that does happen. The fact is, we do not know or understand the evaluating process that is going through Al Saunders head when it comes to our recievers. For all we actually know, Jacobs could eventually beat out Patten for the #2 spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDSKNFN_48 Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Tell me this aint real!http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=15306 "We'll take a long, hard look at everything," Gibbs said. "I'm excited about David being back and getting him healthy. We'll have a healthy James Thrash and we'll have Taylor [Jacobs]. Then we'll move forward and see what the best decision is that we can make in each one of those areas." We need a solid #2....period. D.Patton can be our #3 guy, definitately not #2, just do not want to risk our season on him hurting his knee again or not. James Trash can be #4 WR and Special Teams star. We need some new blood in our WR corps. Remeber fellas that we also said or indirectly said that the coaching arrangement would not change and what happened?? There will be someone to come available and we will grab them. And in the case of Coach Gibbs, it will be the right choice WR. And the excuse will yet again be, " This is somone who became available that could help out team, we thought, so i talk to Dan and he was all for it so, we just thought this was a good way to make the redskins better so that's what we did". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thirtyfive2seven Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 I expect the Redskins to do what Joe Gibbs says they will do. This is: 1)Pay respect to the guys on the team now who have fought their guts out for you (but in reality wont cut it), 2) make football related decisions, 3) "move forward" in the areas that need the most help. I think when its all said and done one of these areas will be WR. :applause: Exactly. Gibbs will say all the right things about the WR's that played this year because he's an awesome man and a great coach, but I think he knows that those positions need to be upgraded. My opinion has been swayed a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrfriedm Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 I have absolutly no doubt that we will bring in a new WR, someone who can step in and be a very, very good #2. Our only fear should be what would happen, if Moss goes down. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefPowhatan17 Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Taylor Jacobs should be traded or cut. The guy sucks just like most of the florida crop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC3 Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 I dunno, Brunell may still be learning the system and will give us a probowl performance in 2006; perhaps then we'll see him throw more to Patten and Jacobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingchris626 Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 We need someone with a little more height. Someone that can jump up and get the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig19406 Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Tell me this aint real!http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=15306 "We'll take a long, hard look at everything," Gibbs said. "I'm excited about David being back and getting him healthy. We'll have a healthy James Thrash and we'll have Taylor [Jacobs]. Then we'll move forward and see what the best decision is that we can make in each one of those areas." We need a solid #2....period. D.Patton can be our #3 guy, definitately not #2, just do not want to risk our season on him hurting his knee again or not. James Trash can be #4 WR and Special Teams star. We need some new blood in our WR corps. I know. I was shaking my head when I heard hime saying that. David wasn't doing anything when Moss was drawing the coverage. I think he could be a monster at #3, but we do need a good #2. This is the time we can do something about it. Don't waste another year relying on this WR core and hoping they improve. Improve them now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Prime Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 I dunno, Brunell may still be learning the system and will give us a probowl performance in 2006; perhaps then we'll see him throw more to Patten and Jacobs. I don't buy that for a second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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