GrimReefa Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 I'll just put up the stuff he wrote about the Skins, and his hilarious take on Norv Turner, but the whole column is great material. http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/051230 RAIDERS (+9) over GiantsIt's a sad day, folks. We're about to say goodbye to the only NFL head coach once bullied off a blackjack table by my buddy Hopper … it's the final edition of the Norv Turner Second-Half Collapse Checklist. Here's the updated list through Week 17: -- Guys arguing on the sidelines? (CHECK) -- Embarrassing losses at home? (CHECK) -- QB getting sacked and throwing the ball up for grabs? (CHECK) -- Random, inexplicable QB change that served no purpose other than to confuse everyone for a week? (CHECK) -- Superstar offensive player somehow being wasted or underused? (CHECK) -- Just an ungodly amount of penalties? (CHECK) -- Steady stream of excuses? (CHECK) -- Players taking veiled shots at the coaching staff? (CHECK) -- General malaise and dissatisfaction within the fan base? (CHECK) -- Local columnists taking shots at him? (CHECK) -- Big coaching name (Mariucci, Martz) looming in the background as a replacement? (CHECK) -- Misguided, almost pathetic sense from Norv that he might come back next season? (CHECK) ... Redskins (-7.5) over EAGLES Even the mere whiff of Patrick Ramsey has me thinking about taking the points. By the way, why aren't teams just triple-teaming Santana Moss? Not only can I not name the other Redskins receivers, when I was complaining to my buddy House (a Skins fan) about it, he couldn't name their second WR either. Their own fans don't know who their other receivers are!!!! And nobody's triple-teaming this guy? (Right now, the Redskins fans are like, "Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Dude, shut the hell up! We made it to January without anyone realizing this! You're gonna blow it, you jerk!") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 Sports guy is a money writer. Just because he blends pop culture and humor into his columns, people discount him as not knowing his ****, but he does. He's made some great insights, but people just think he's for entertainment value only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsGuy Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 The second Wr's name is James Thrash....... Isn't it? Funny stuff about Norv, too. The one about the penalties, though, can't really be placed a Turner's feet. The Raders ALWAYS have tons of penalties, no matter who's coaching. How the HECK did we lose to those guys???? :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme Wu Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 He actually sounds like an idiot who somehow managed to miss the second Dallas game which was on national television. His buddy is a Skins fan who doesn't know Cooley/Thrash/Pattens names as secondary threats that relieve coverage pressure from Moss? Or that teams shifting coverage to Moss is the biggest reason for the strong re-emergence of the running game? Triple-team Moss guys, what can go wrong!? Durr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrockster21 Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 Bill Simmons is a moron. His articles are all garbage. He's a non-funny comedian. Plus, his love-affair with the Red Sox is pretty ridiculous as well. Okay -- we get it -- you're a Red Sox fan. Any true Skins fan can name 90-95 of the 53 man roster, and definitely can name all the receivers on the team. That was an attempted pot-shot at the Skins, (which ol' Bill likes to take regularly), and not a very good one at that. So to the "Sports Guy" (a totally unearned, non-warranted moniker that he should not use) I give the number one salute. I hope Damon to the Yankees made you cry, you bum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsTillIDie Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 I thought that this was really funny STEELERS (-13) over LionsIf you're Matt Millen, you have two choices at this point: (A) Resign. After all, what's enjoyable about running a team when the entire fan base hates you to the point that they're wearing opposing jerseys to home games (which was a disgrace, by the way), and parents are taking pictures of their newborn babies and planting "FIRE MILLEN" signs in their cribs? ( Keep your job and take another wide receiver with Detroit's top-five pick in April, just to spite everyone. (Personally, I think the second option is fantastic and would be the greatest moment in NFL draft history, hands down. Can you imagine? Would Tagliabue even read Detroit's card if there were a receiver on it, or would he just ad-lib a defensive player's name in that spot to avoid a potential riot in downtown Detroit? In fact, I'm now rooting for Millen to stay.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iheartskins Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 Bill Simmons is a moron. His articles are all garbage. He's a non-funny comedian. Plus, his love-affair with the Red Sox is pretty ridiculous as well. Okay -- we get it -- you're a Red Sox fan.Any true Skins fan can name 90-95 of the 53 man roster, and definitely can name all the receivers on the team. That was an attempted pot-shot at the Skins, (which ol' Bill likes to take regularly), and not a very good one at that. So to the "Sports Guy" (a totally unearned, non-warranted moniker that he should not use) I give the number one salute. I hope Damon to the Yankees made you cry, you bum. I completely disagree with you jrock. Bill Simmons is not an idiot at all. You may not like him or the fact that he is a Red Sox fan, but that certainly doesn't make him stupid. I don't know how long or how consistently you read his columns, but he's never made a secret of the fact that he is a die hard Sox, Celts, Pats fan. He was a Bruins fan before the owners got too cheap. ESPN hired him knowing that he would be writing a lot of Boston-centric columns...so that his writing is often dedicated to the Sox is intentional and a feature. He's never held that fact under wraps or tried to hide it. He's also done some great and really interesting inteviews/conversations with celebrity sports fans that otherwise the fans would never have access to. They are usually a great read. I can understand if you don't like his humor, it may not be for all, but there have been literally hundreds of times where I have laughed out loud while reading his columns. That "House," his 'Skins fan buddy, doesn't know who our #2 WR isn't surprising given that many on this Board couldn't give you a definitive answer. And think about how often the #2 WR has been changed this year--and/or how often Cooley or someone else rises to take on the virtual #2 receiving slot. I will concede that he hasn't been kind to the 'Skins of late, but what reason have we given members of the non-Skin oriented media not to give us pot shots? And I wouldn't take the pot shots personally--look how he's drubbing Norv Turner...Have you ever even read his Peyton Manning columns? The guy isn't interested in taking pot-shots at the 'Skins as much as he uses disparaging humor to describe all the teams and their players that deserve it. And, if you'd read his column on the Damon trade, he didn't shed a single tear. Finally, if the Sports Guy isn't for you, that's your call, but I can almost guarantee that he knows more about sports as a whole than nearly anyone you or I know and/or many members of the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playoffsplz Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 I completely disagree with you jrock. Bill Simmons is not an idiot at all. You may not like him or the fact that he is a Red Sox fan, but that certainly doesn't make him stupid. I don't know how long or how consistently you read his columns, but he's never made a secret of the fact that he is a die hard Sox, Celts, Pats fan. He was a Bruins fan before the owners got too cheap. ESPN hired him knowing that he would be writing a lot of Boston-centric columns...so that his writing is often dedicated to the Sox is intentional and a feature. He's never held that fact under wraps or tried to hide it.He's also done some great and really interesting inteviews/conversations with celebrity sports fans that otherwise the fans would never have access to. They are usually a great read. I can understand if you don't like his humor, it may not be for all, but there have been literally hundreds of times where I have laughed out loud while reading his columns. That "House," his 'Skins fan buddy, doesn't know who our #2 WR isn't surprising given that many on this Board couldn't give you a definitive answer. And think about how often the #2 WR has been changed this year--and/or how often Cooley or someone else rises to take on the virtual #2 receiving slot. I will concede that he hasn't been kind to the 'Skins of late, but what reason have we given members of the non-Skin oriented media not to give us pot shots? And I wouldn't take the pot shots personally--look how he's drubbing Norv Turner...Have you ever even read his Peyton Manning columns? The guy isn't interested in taking pot-shots at the 'Skins as much as he uses disparaging humor to describe all the teams and their players that deserve it. And, if you'd read his column on the Damon trade, he didn't shed a single tear. Finally, if the Sports Guy isn't for you, that's your call, but I can almost guarantee that he knows more about sports as a whole than nearly anyone you or I know and/or many members of the media. :applause: :applause: but i wouldnt disagree with jrock.....because then you would be wrong and probably stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 Simmons is okay but nothing great. He's a younger and more glorified Tony Kornheiser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Adama Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 I completely disagree with you jrock. Bill Simmons is not an idiot at all. You may not like him or the fact that he is a Red Sox fan, but that certainly doesn't make him stupid. I don't know how long or how consistently you read his columns, but he's never made a secret of the fact that he is a die hard Sox, Celts, Pats fan. He was a Bruins fan before the owners got too cheap. ESPN hired him knowing that he would be writing a lot of Boston-centric columns...so that his writing is often dedicated to the Sox is intentional and a feature. He's never held that fact under wraps or tried to hide it. I would actually say that being a Red Sox fan makes him smarter. Boston is steeped in tradition and fantastic teams. Teams like the Celtics, Bruins, and the Red Sox. Oh they were originally home to my favorite team of all time....the Washington Redskins. Originally they were the Boston Braves, named after the baseball team with the same name which eventually became the Atlanta Braves. The Boston Braves football team changed their name to the Boston Redskins, then after moving to Washington, D.C. became our beloved Washington Redskins. That is just one small reason I became a Washington Redskins fan when I was a kid living in Boston. Let's go Redskins! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimReefa Posted December 31, 2005 Author Share Posted December 31, 2005 90-95 percent of the 53 man roster, huh? That's what...48-50 players? I'm not so sure I could do that. Also, I'm not so sure that Simmons' buddy really couldn't name the other WRs on the roster, but more likely he didn't know which of them could be considered the "number 2". Since I don't know this, either, (Jacobs? Thrash?) I'm not ready to accuse House, or any other Skins fan, of not being "a true fan". Brunell, Ramsey, Campbell, Portis, Cartwright, Betts, Sellers, Moss, Thrash, Jacobs, Brown, Farris, Patten, Cooley, Royal, Rabach, Thomas, Dockery, Brown, Samuels, Jansen, Griffin, Salave'a, Daniels, Noble, Wynn, Arrington, Washington, Holdman, Marshall, Clemons, Taylor, Bowen, Rogers, Springs, Jimoh, Prioleau, Harris, Clark, Hall, Frost. Well, that's only 41 (77%). Guess I'm not a true fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCRoughrider Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 No Redskins fan doesn't know who the second wide receiver is. Bill Simmons is a horse's ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimReefa Posted December 31, 2005 Author Share Posted December 31, 2005 No Redskins fan doesn't know who the second wide receiver is.Bill Simmons is a horse's ass. OK, I'll bite. Who is it? Keep in mind that Patten is hurt, Cooley is a TE, and Portis is a RB... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 I can almost guarantee that he knows more about sports as a whole than nearly anyone you or I know and/or many members of the media. I agree with the majority of your post, but I think you are overestimating him a little. I mean the guy has a LOSING record picking NFL games this year. He's funny and relatively knowledgeable, but he's no genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Ted Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 BSG is totally right about "Madden Nation." That show is oddly funny and entertaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 OK, I'll bite. Who is it?Keep in mind that Patten is hurt, Cooley is a TE, and Portis is a RB... It was Jacobs for awhile, but now it's Thrash... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCRoughrider Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 OK, I'll bite. Who is it?Keep in mind that Patten is hurt, Cooley is a TE, and Portis is a RB... Have you watched the games this season? Does who's on the field when the ball is snapped even register with you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarpon75 Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 I completely disagree with you jrock. Bill Simmons is not an idiot at all. You may not like him or the fact that he is a Red Sox fan, but that certainly doesn't make him stupid. I don't know how long or how consistently you read his columns, but he's never made a secret of the fact that he is a die hard Sox, Celts, Pats fan. He was a Bruins fan before the owners got too cheap. ESPN hired him knowing that he would be writing a lot of Boston-centric columns...so that his writing is often dedicated to the Sox is intentional and a feature. He's never held that fact under wraps or tried to hide it.He's also done some great and really interesting inteviews/conversations with celebrity sports fans that otherwise the fans would never have access to. They are usually a great read. I can understand if you don't like his humor, it may not be for all, but there have been literally hundreds of times where I have laughed out loud while reading his columns. That "House," his 'Skins fan buddy, doesn't know who our #2 WR isn't surprising given that many on this Board couldn't give you a definitive answer. And think about how often the #2 WR has been changed this year--and/or how often Cooley or someone else rises to take on the virtual #2 receiving slot. I will concede that he hasn't been kind to the 'Skins of late, but what reason have we given members of the non-Skin oriented media not to give us pot shots? And I wouldn't take the pot shots personally--look how he's drubbing Norv Turner...Have you ever even read his Peyton Manning columns? The guy isn't interested in taking pot-shots at the 'Skins as much as he uses disparaging humor to describe all the teams and their players that deserve it. And, if you'd read his column on the Damon trade, he didn't shed a single tear. Finally, if the Sports Guy isn't for you, that's your call, but I can almost guarantee that he knows more about sports as a whole than nearly anyone you or I know and/or many members of the media. I don'tknow,I for one am kind of tired of the whole media thing with everyone constantly being critical.Who is he to take these pot shots,what are his credentials,was he an athlete?I am not saying that the use of humor is a negative but I don't see the point of constantly using it to denegrate people.Put yourself in Norv Turner's shoes for example,it can't be a lot of fun to endure what he is going through.Don't get me wrong I am not a Norv fan.I am just using him for an example.If it was isolated it might not be so bad but the dispariging humor is done way too much throughout the media, not just the Sports Guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bounce Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 Good Lord. Lighten up, everyone. I believe Simmons was making what people in some circles call "a joke." Apparently, it's supposed to make light of a certain situation. Sounds crazy, I know, but I've heard a lot of people get a kick out of these things. Seriously, I think we actually have a two-game streak in which Moss has been the only WR to catch a pass. Can't someone make a crack about that without being called a blubbering idiot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCRoughrider Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 Good Lord. Lighten up, everyone. I believe Simmons was making what people in some circles call "a joke." Apparently, it's supposed to make light of a certain situation. Sounds crazy, I know, but I've heard a lot of people get a kick out of these things. Seriously, I think we actually have a two-game streak in which Moss has been the only WR to catch a pass. Can't someone make a crack about that without being called a blubbering idiot? Except that Simmons has been one of the mediots who's taken shots at us all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarpon75 Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 Good Lord. Lighten up, everyone. I believe Simmons was making what people in some circles call "a joke." Apparently, it's supposed to make light of a certain situation. Sounds crazy, I know, but I've heard a lot of people get a kick out of these things. Seriously, I think we actually have a two-game streak in which Moss has been the only WR to catch a pass. Can't someone make a crack about that without being called a blubbering idiot? Think your missing my point.I don't think that people should make a living piling on,so to speak.There again I am talking in general ,you see it on ESPN,Fox, and by so many other media outlets.Just a little tired of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 well, real fans do know who the other wide receivers on the roster are, even if they have not been especially productive lately I do distinctly remember the 2000 Ravens winning the Super Bowl with Qadry Ismail at WR, Shannon Sharpe at TE and Jamal Lewis at RB. They didn't have a legitimate #2 receiver. They didn't have a legitimate change of pace back. They had a very average quarterback in Trent Dilfer. The Redskins with Moss, Cooley and Portis have enough to be a threat in the postseason, especially if Brunell can overcome the knee to show some mobility and continue to make plays with his feet when necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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