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Man, I hope this idiot stays on as DNC Chair forever. Somebody find a cure for death, QUICK! This guy is a ****ing traitor. Reminds me of some liberal douche bags on this board.


Dean: US Won't Win in Iraq

LAST UPDATE: 12/5/2005 6:26:32 PM

Posted By: Jim Forsyth

This story is available on your cell phone at mobile.woai.com.

(SAN ANTONIO) -- Saying the "idea that we're going to win the war in Iraq is an idea which is just plain wrong," Democratic National Chairman Howard Dean predicted today that the Democratic Party will come together on a proposal to withdraw National Guard and Reserve troops immediately, and all US forces within two years.

Dean made his comments in an interview on WOAI Radio in San Antonio.

"I've seen this before in my life. This is the same situation we had in Vietnam. Everybody then kept saying, 'just another year, just stay the course, we'll have a victory.' Well, we didn't have a victory, and this policy cost the lives of an additional 25,000 troops because we were too stubborn to recognize what was happening."

Dean says the Democrat position on the war is 'coalescing,' and is likely to include several proposals.

"I think we need a strategic redeployment over a period of two years," Dean said. "Bring the 80,000 National Guard and Reserve troops home immediately. They don't belong in a conflict like this anyway. We ought to have a redeployment to Afghanistan of 20,000 troops, we don't have enough troops to do the job there and its a place where we are welcome. And we need a force in the Middle East, not in Iraq but in a friendly neighboring country to fight (terrorist leader Musab) Zarqawi, who came to Iraq after this invasion. We've got to get the target off the backs of American troops.

Dean didn't specify which country the US forces would deploy to, but he said he would like to see the entire process completed within two years. He said the Democrat proposal is not a 'withdrawal,' but rather a 'strategic redeployment' of U.S. forces.

"The White House wants us to have a permanent commitment to Iraq. This is an Iraqi problem. President Bush got rid of Saddam Hussein and that was a great thing, but that could have been done in a very different way. But now that we're there we need to figure out how to leave. 80% of Iraqis want us to leave, and it's their country."

Dean also compared the controversy over pre-war intelligence to the Watergate scandal which brought down Richard Nixon's presidency in 1974.

"What we see today is very much like what was going in Watergate," Dean said. "It turns out there is a lot of good evidence that President Bush did not tell the truth when he was asking Congress for the power to go to war. The President said last week that Congress saw the same intelligence that he did in making the decision to go to war, and that is flat out wrong. The President withheld some intelligence from the Senate Intelligence Committee. He withheld the report from the CIA that in fact there was no evidence of weapons of mass destruction (in Iraq), that they did not have a nuclear program. They (the White House) selectively gave intelligence to the United States Senate and the United States Congress and got them to give the go ahead to attack these people."

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At least he's not an elected official. If people voted for him after some of these antics, I would lose all faith in humanity.

It's scary to think that he was the governor of Vermont for 12 years. For someone so educated (he's a medical doctor), this dude says some stupid, wacky things.

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I think it is downright embarrasing that a politician says this in a time of war, in particular when the enemy feeds off this

I guess he forgot that KEY lesson of Vietnam

I can understand constructive criticsm that some Dems have made about the handling of the war, but calling for a pullout or saying "we won't win" is absurd

And Hokie my man, we are a classier bunch then that to start off a thread with an insult!

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Waiting for Predicto to come on here and say that Dean did not MEAN what he said.... :laugh:

Lol. Good one. :laugh:

No, Dean meant what he said.

Of course, Kerry still didn't say what Newsmax said he did, but I guess we are done over in that other thread.

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Nah, didn't call anybody out and said, "some." The douche bags know who they are. Besides, insulting liberals is WAY too much fun.


I didn't see anything wrong with what you said. Not a lot of thick skins on this board. :D

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