zallera Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 It showed such a lack of confidence in our O-line, and considering it was the 1st quarter and we were in St. Louis territory, I thought we were going to mentally lost the game right there. But, Gibbs made up for it in the 4th quarter by running on a 3rd and 1, and again on 3rd & goal from the one on the same drive. And what's up with the terrible spots Portis is getting? He falls over the line all the time, but refs never seem to give him the benefit of the doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sith lord Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Very bad descision by Gibbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnFoRcEr_uPu Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Agreed. The Rams had the balls to go for it on 4th and 2 with a rookie QB, but we didn't go on it at 4th and inches w/ a strong RB/FB. I hope that changes soon. Because I think right now they have too much faith in an injured John Hall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orlskinsfan Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 its not like we have picked up many yards on 3rd and 4th down when its only a yard to go...i would have like to seen him go for it but i fully understand why he went for the field goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnFoRcEr_uPu Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 its not like we have picked up many yards on 3rd and 4th down when its only a yard to go...i would have like to seen him go for it but i fully understand why he went for the field goal With the way we had run over the Rams, I don't think there was any reason to doubt our ability to pick up a measily 2 feet or less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raperry2 Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 I agree. I would have liked to have seen us just go ahead and get that first down. I mean come on, we would have gotten it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cskin Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 I think what you're seeing is a realization from our coaching staff that our O-line is indeed a weakness and not a strength. Here's my evaluation: Samuels - Gimpy knee... can no longer explode off the ball on running plays this year Dockery - Inconsistent .. crushes some opponents and looks to be on skates w/ others Rabach - Smart... but lacks bulk and gets by on craftiness instead of braun Thomas - A finesse player, best pulling and trapping, marginal at the point of attack Jansen - Gutsy...not sold he's confident in his repaired achilles..needs another year The saving grace is that they continue to play beside each other and SHOULD be starting to "feel" what the others are and will be doing on any given snap. I think the draft should focus on the lines.... we could use another mauling guard and potentially a tackle to groom if Molinaro/Wilson isn't that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor ToughLove Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Maybe if the Redskins were behind. But if you are ahead 7-0, and the ball is inside the 30, how can you second guess taking the field goal that would make it a two score lead? I don't think you reasonably can...except if you're playing hindsight is 20/20 after the field goal is missed. QB sneak is the easiest call on 4&inches (& it was barely inches). And half the time the refs can't even see the ball and just give you the call unless you get pushed back. But the refs have been pretty bad for us. Maybe that is why Gibbs didn't go for the QB sneak on 4&inches, he didn't want to leave another score in the hands of the refs. Take the three point the refs can't take away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbiggs Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 I agree...I was fuming about that call for the rest of the game. There offense was doing nothing so why not go for it??? Put big Nemo in and bust him through the line. Don't know why they aren't using him more oftern in those situations. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endzone_dave Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 I sent two testicles priority mail to Gibbs after the game. I hope Coach Gibbs uses them well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OVCChairman Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 well he is in the mentality that we should get points when we can instead of sitting on a lead, therefore he did that, he got the 3 points instead of risking the off chance that we dont make it. If you think about it, say we dont get that first down, the momentum swing is INSANE! then we get the 3 points and he knows that we can continue our success, we werent desperate for the TD, so he knew we needed points instead of anything else. I'm glad he didnt go for it, Gibbs knows what he's doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrockster21 Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 And what's up with the terrible spots Portis is getting? He falls over the line all the time, but refs never seem to give him the benefit of the doubt. HORRIBLE. He's been getting shady spots all season long...every week I'm screaming at the TV for Gibbs to challenge the spot, and every week he doesn't. Maybe they don't realize they can challenge the spot of the ball??? Quick question: when a player's knee goes down, the spot of the ball is where the ball is at as soon as his knee goes down, right? Forward progress and all that? Or is it determined some other way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilbur58z Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 If our short yardage game hasn't sucked so bad all year maybe I'd agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwebst1 Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 I was also upset by the decision... but the decision I was more upset with was the 3rd and 1 1/2 QB sneak call... just a terrible, terrible play call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endzone_dave Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 What bothered me was calling a running play with 7 seconds to go in the first half with no time outs. Probably the only coach in the NFL who wouldn't have tried going for a score (either a 25 yard pass to set up a field goal or a hail mary). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zallera Posted December 5, 2005 Author Share Posted December 5, 2005 its not like we have picked up many yards on 3rd and 4th down when its only a yard to go...i would have like to seen him go for it but i fully understand why he went for the field goal But we don't what we're gonna get from our kicker. It's not like it was a gimmie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsfan1311 Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Agreed......I think it gives the O-line the wrong message... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zallera Posted December 5, 2005 Author Share Posted December 5, 2005 well he is in the mentality that we should get points when we can instead of sitting on a lead, therefore he did that, he got the 3 points instead of risking the off chance that we dont make it. If you think about it, say we dont get that first down, the momentum swing is INSANE! then we get the 3 points and he knows that we can continue our success, we werent desperate for the TD, so he knew we needed points instead of anything else. I'm glad he didnt go for it, Gibbs knows what he's doing The problem with your argument is that we DIDN'T get the 3 points. We still don't know what we're going to get out of John Hall. And I'd have to argue that the momentum swing is just as insane, if not more, when you puss out of going for it on 4th & inches and miss the field goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Harris Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 HORRIBLE. He's been getting shady spots all season long...every week I'm screaming at the TV for Gibbs to challenge the spot, and every week he doesn't. Maybe they don't realize they can challenge the spot of the ball???Quick question: when a player's knee goes down, the spot of the ball is where the ball is at as soon as his knee goes down, right? Forward progress and all that? Or is it determined some other way? you are correct. it's where the ball is when his knee touches. kind of makes for a tough call, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Agreed. The Rams had the balls to go for it on 4th and 2 with a rookie QB, but we didn't go on it at 4th and inches w/ a strong RB/FB. I hope that changes soon. Because I think right now they have too much faith in an injured John Hall. You are all idiots!!!! It was a 44yd field goal, one which should have been good. Take the POINTS, that's how football is played, we were outplying them in every facet of the game, take the damn points. It is not Gibb's fault that Hall couldn't hit a field goal. Hall was kicking off deeper than he has all yr, we were in a Dome, there was no reason to not go for the 3. I personally love going for it, when I'm playing Madden 06! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedlamVR Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Exactly just like someone else said on here 7 second in the half no time outs ahead by three i think they said go for a hail mary insted of a run to run the clock out is a great idea...if your playing Madden geeze ..... If we all had monday morning hidsight sunday night then I am sure we would all make different decisions . At the time though in the first quater with a 7 point lead I think 90% of the coaches would have gone for the field goal ... the other 10% are the ones looking for another job next year ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinzOwnU Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Not going for it on 4th down was a horrendous call. I really don't like a lot of the calls gibbs makes in situations like that and his awful playcalling at the end of the 1st half which basically precluded a chance for a field goal. A team that needs a spark, a team that is trying to go 5-0 and get something done - needs to take SOME RISKS. It wasn't even a huge risk, especially since hall has been poop lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zallera Posted December 5, 2005 Author Share Posted December 5, 2005 All I know is, when it's the other team that has the ball in that situation and we're on defense, I'm stoked when they don't go for it because it's next to impossible to stop a qb sneak on 4th & inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailYeah Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 I think if we were in that situation today, knowing more about how our o-line was playing, and knowing our kicker, he would have gone for it without thinking. I'm willing to give Gibbs a pass at that point in the game trying to get two scores up. I think from here on out you'll see us go for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redphoenix Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 You are all idiots!!!! It was a 44yd field goal, one which should have been good. Take the POINTS, that's how football is played, we were outplying them in every facet of the game, take the damn points. It is not Gibb's fault that Hall couldn't hit a field goal. Hall was kicking off deeper than he has all yr, we were in a Dome, there was no reason to not go for the 3. I personally love going for it, when I'm playing Madden 06! i respect your point of view but it does send a message to your o that u dont have confidence or courage or "that killer instinct" to get one yard;we need a play like that to change the direction of the team,sorry to bring this up but look what gruden did to us at the end of the game, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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