Must Get Wayne

[0mega]

yes we can. I'm sure we will be able to make room, by releasing some players and making cuts and getting some cap space. WE have to be able to make some key offseason aqusitions, that will make our defense and offense better. So i seriously think that with our owner, Mr. Syner, we will be able to affors him. No doubt. The question is, will we pick him up as a Solid #2 reciver to compliment moss?

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[pR0JEkT 21]

By the way does anybody have a link to where I can actually take a look at the list of free agents for next year and a list from the possible players getting drafted in 2006 any help would be appreciated thanks.

[Dirtbag 28]

Did you guys see that stat on MNF? In the past two years, Wayne has the highest receiver rating in the NFL. I would love to have this guy to be our Art Monk. Wayne has one of the best sets of hands in the NFL. With quite a few Colts being free agents this offseason, it is very possible the Colts will let Wayne go. Funny thing is that Wayne and Moss, teammates in college, would be reunited.

Two things: One, this is an excellent post. Good fact and a great idea. And we can afford him. Two, but we may not want too because Taylor Jacobs is beginning to show his stuff. I have always felt him to be a future star! :dallasuck

[Riggo-toni]

Jacobs is a bust and will be gone at the end of the year. No more gators, please.

[Warpath11]

I think we do need to tweak our system a bit...I mean if teams are rolling coverage to Moss we need to think of better/creative ways of getting him the ball. Look at Steve Smith in Carolina I guarantee teams are rolling coverage his way (the other WR is Keary Colbert/Rod Gardner) yet he puts up moster numbers almost every week. Another example is TO last season I mean he had Todd Pinkston as the #2 yet he put up numbers so I feel we just need to get Moss is better situations to get the ball in his hands.

[0mega]

I would love to get Wayne here, but it's a long shot at best. I don't know how feasable it is, or our cap situation, but my (somewhat realistic) offseason shopping list would look something like.....:

1) Pass rushing DE - Kalimba Edwards. Young, atheletic, and would instantly upgrade our front fours ability to pressure the QB.

2) Legit #2 WR - Reggie Wayne would be the obvious choice, but I can't imagine that happening. Jurevicius is a FA is believe. Peerless Price maybe? And there's always TO :laugh: (I'm kidding, I'm kidding.....)

3) Nickle Back (See ya Walt) - Jerry Azumah. Young, quick, potential #2 CB once Springs is gone and Rogers takes the #1 spot. Get it done Danny.

4) Draft O & D lines -- that's where the battle is won or lost, and it's the first part of each unit we need to solidify and develope solid depth.

I'm sure I could come up with bigger names with bigger price tags, but c'mon people, Dwight Freeney isn't leaving Indi, and we wouldn't have enough money to throw at him anyway.

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[Ynot]

Gibbs will need to fix the offensive lines and the defensive lines, We do not need nay more wideouts. The only consistant thing Gibbs had in his previous tenure was his Offensive and Defensive Lines. That is what is needed. We have enough talent at wide out! We won a superbowl wiht Charlie Brown and Alvin Garrett! Theisman had a running game and protection! If we have to keep everyone in to block we do not need to have 5 top receivers! Thrash, Patten, Jacobs and of course Moss are enough if we have the time to throw the ball. Patten won a few superbowls not being th eprimary reciever for New England! We need defensive lineman that can put pressure without blitzing the whole secondary on every play. We need to do nothing but draft Offensive and defensive lineman! In free agency if we do anything it should be on the defensive line!

[pR0JEkT 21]

If someone was able to give me a list of possible free agents for 2006 would be nice cause then I would be able to give my thought on this topic, however I dont think that even if we had the room in our salary for R. Wayne I dont believe that he would be into leaving the Colts especially after having the season that they are having. I do believe that we need a pass rusher that should be our first concern that should replace Renaldo Wynn, after thats done we should maybe go after a real good WR, if that is a possibility, however our offensive line really needs help. Since Cooley is our H-Back we do need someone to replace Robert Royal as well while we are at it.

First off in the draft we really need to get a #1 pick, I know that everyone is excited about the fact that we have JC on our roster, but with him sitting the bench that doesnt do anything to help the team. We gave up our first rounder to Denver for crying out loud, in all reality that sucks for us. I cant make this any easier than this... WE NEED A FIRST ROUND PICK!

[0mega]

I would love to get Wayne here, but it's a long shot at best. I don't know how feasable it is, or our cap situation, but my (somewhat realistic) offseason shopping list would look something like.....:

1) Pass rushing DE - Kalimba Edwards. Young, atheletic, and would instantly upgrade our front fours ability to pressure the QB.

2) Legit #2 WR - Reggie Wayne would be the obvious choice, but I can't imagine that happening. Jurevicius is a FA is believe. Peerless Price maybe? And there's always TO :laugh: (I'm kidding, I'm kidding.....)

3) Nickle Back (See ya Walt) - Jerry Azumah. Young, quick, potential #2 CB once Springs is gone and Rogers takes the #1 spot. Get it done Danny.

4) Draft O & D lines -- that's where the battle is won or lost, and it's the first part of each unit we need to solidify and develope solid depth.

I'm sure I could come up with bigger names with bigger price tags, but c'mon people, Dwight Freeney isn't leaving Indi, and we wouldn't have enough money to throw at him anyway.

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.....and pull a Abraham for Ramsey trade.

[Louisiana Redskin]

Wayne would definitely help, but as it has been stated, we aren't going to be able to get him. The offense isn't too terribly bad. We just need to learn how to close out games, which we can't do. We need a better D-line to plug up running holes and get a decent pass rush. If we have that then I bet we'll see a totally different team next year. Taylor Jacobs looked good last week. All he needs is a chance. He has potential.

[DonMagicJuan]

add in Brandon Lloyd...hes a RESTRICTED free agent but hes worth it, i think we can give up a 3rd rounder for him...hes so worth it!

[Nativeson]

"Sometimes you can't see the forrest for the trees". This team does not need to spend any more money on WO's because we have plenty of talent there . I believe that we are going to see some amazing things from young Talor Jacobs before the years end. And don't count out Farris either,I liked him from the beggining of the season and was dissappointed when we let him go.

The areas that need addressing the most are Defensive Line,Offensive Line and Punter. Derrick Frost has cost us at least three games because of bad field position in critical times during close games. Yes , the defense can't hold in the fourth quarter , but that's because our Offense becomes proficient at three and out's in the fourth quarter and the defense is tired ! We need a good solid left guard on the offensive line . That's where a lot of the pressure is coming from consistently.

We definately need a solid pass rushing DT I believe that with just one consistent pass rusher added to this line we would see more sacks recorded by Griffin and Sal'evea and with more pressure we will get more take aways in the secondary. I like what I see from Carlos Rogers and I believe he will be a solid corner with S.Springs. It's too bad we didn't Courtney Brown in the offseason that would have helped a lot.

All in all , I think this team is very close to being a consistent winner with the addition of a few key pieces , ORG , DT , P .

[Samuels]

I got a sleeper WR that would be a nice upgrade and is ready to breakout Ernest Wilford. He just makes plays when he gets PT and is a huge target. The Jags fans are pretty upset he don't play more but they got Jimmy Smith and invested a 1st in Matt Jones.

[skinzplay]

Unless we can get both Wayne and Tom Moore in a package deal, it won't do any good for Wayne to come to Washington.

[fdarugar]

I would love to get Wayne here, but it's a long shot at best. I don't know how feasable it is, or our cap situation, but my (somewhat realistic) offseason shopping list would look something like.....:

1) Pass rushing DE - Kalimba Edwards. Young, atheletic, and would instantly upgrade our front fours ability to pressure the QB.

2) Legit #2 WR - Reggie Wayne would be the obvious choice, but I can't imagine that happening. Jurevicius is a FA is believe. Peerless Price maybe? And there's always TO :laugh: (I'm kidding, I'm kidding.....)

3) Nickle Back (See ya Walt) - Jerry Azumah. Young, quick, potential #2 CB once Springs is gone and Rogers takes the #1 spot. Get it done Danny.

4) Draft O & D lines -- that's where the battle is won or lost, and it's the first part of each unit we need to solidify and develope solid depth.

I'm sure I could come up with bigger names with bigger price tags, but c'mon people, Dwight Freeney isn't leaving Indi, and we wouldn't have enough money to throw at him anyway.

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Kalimba Edwards, good choice but not an everydown guy. I would like to see us sign him but I'd really like an everydown guy like Kampman, a pass rush specialist, and our 2nd rounder on the DL. Reggie Wayne will get big money somewhere, I think more realisticly we will see a Jurevicius, Price, Randle El or a Az Hakim type guy brought in. People forget we still have Atrell Hawkins so while dumping Harris we may not need to bring in another big name guy like Azuma but just bring in depth. So, finally what the plan NEEDS to be is bring in a bunch of guys that can fill wholes, draft OL and DL and don't break the bank on big names.

[mcarey032]

Really we should focus more on the draft, but that will be hard to do since we traded away our draft picks. So we are going to go crazy with the free agent super bowl sweepstakes.

[feeshta]

I would love to get Wayne, but up here they think the Iggles will get him, they have a lot of money to spend and with TO gone, I could see them getting him. I would love it thought to have him. He's my favorite AFC receiver. I would love to get Tamba Hall in the draft from PSU, but he'll be going 1st round.

Finally someone who agrees with me on Hali. Woohoo!!

Good taste my dear man. I think he is the perfect fit at DE in this scheme, and a real class act, intelligent player, Joe Gibbs type of guy. Now if only we could find a way to get him in the draft without having to mortgage the future to do so. That is the tough thing.

My top four in this draft are Hali, Kiwi, A.J Hawk, and Paul Posluzny. I think they would be the biggest help to this team of anybody out there. If we get any of those four I would be happy. Don't get me wrong, I love Marshall, but he is not a natural at MLB. We could improve there, as Pierce was better last year to be sure. That position is key to this defense if you ask me. Marshall is servicable, but better suited at WLB or as a reserve.

As for Wayne, would be nice, but too much money for sure. Would not mind seeing Brandon Lloyd in a Skins uni as long as we don't pull a Coles and give him insane money. But overall I think we should be OK at WR if Jacobs can step up a bit.

If I'm the GM, I'm targeting DE or MLB at the top of the draft, whichever is the better talent available when we pick. Then I target DL help and O-line help, unless someone falls in our laps at another position we could use.

Nickelback I'd take care of through FA, targeting an average #2 corner or the like. Azuma would be a nice pickup due to his return abilities, but I think the bears keep him.

[End2round2sanders]

I say address DLine like 5 acquisitions in the Dline area and Id be happy

[TaylorPickSix]

Yeah we really need to add another reciever. I would love Wayne. I always root for the Colts during the playoffs because they remind me alot of us (solid coaching and always fight hard). I started liking them after that 31-0 blowout loss to the Jets because of the way Manning and Harrison kept on fighting.

Anyway, Wayne is a stud. Manning loves him. I wouldn't be surprise to see Manning restructure his deal so they could sign Wayne. He likes Wayne more than Edge and almost as much as Marvin. But their defensive captain Dwight Freeney has his contract expire at the end of the year, so look for him to get a huge deal or a franchise tag. I think Edge and Wayne will walk. Robert Mathis is an excellent pass rushing DE, plus hes young, and unless he resigns theres a good chance we could get him.

Anyway enough ranting about the Colts FA situation (this is the year they HAVE to win the SB basically, and I think they will). Wayne is prob either gonna stay in Indy if they can afford him or go somewhere he will be the #1. IE Philly, Seattle, etc.

[SKiNz Jus 2 sick]

What would be amazing if we somehow managed to trade Ramsey and a pick to the 9ers for Brandon Lloyd, who I think will be a star in this league.

damn only if the 49ers didnt have alex smith that would be nice

[santanamoss89]

we cant afford wayne but it would be nice to have him

[BrunellSuperbowl]

We don't need any big name free agent wide outs. We need to improve the offensive system, which is currently extremely limited by a bad OL....not by bad wide outs. Do you guys think Gibbs is running so much max protect because it makes him giggle to see all those fat guys out there? He is doing it because if you don't "fumble!" is the outcome because defenders hit Mark damn near instantly.

Improve the OL so that we can send 3 wide outs more often and the passing game will improve dramatically.

On the defensive side, we need MORE DL players not studs. We don't have any depth. Picking up some ok young guys and cycling the DL more during the game will improve the push....also getting rid of Blache wouldn't hurt.

thank you, the Offensive line stinks. They can block people on 3 and 2. You dont win with recievers and gadgets. You win with the big uglies on the dline and oline. I am tired of skilled players. People were so excitedabout Sean Taylor. I would rather have two uglies on the dline and oline. Jansen by far is the most overrated of the bunch and Dockery stinks

[method man]

KING LEO,

Here is the FA list.

http://www.theredzone.org/2006/freeagents/

Look, we do already have 4 good receivers but we have only 1 starting-quality receiver. Patten, Jacobs, and Thrash are all no. 3 receivers. I personally feel next season that we should use Jacobs as the no. 3 receiver next season, just because I think he will match up really well against nickelbacks. So, although we have a bunch of above-average receivers, we need a starting-caliber receiver.

My personal opinion on Wayne is that he will be a bust if you try to put him in as a no. 1 receiver. To me, he just doesn't seem to have no. 1 receiver abilities that I notice in other no. 1 receivers around the league. I feel, though, that he is the best no. 2 WR in the NFL. If we have the money to sign him, I'm willing to even overpay him a little. But I see the point of those who don't think we can sign him. If the Eagles are willing to cough up enough dough, unless Wayne realizes that he is a no. 2 WR, the Eagles will get him for sure.

I think Randle-El is out of Pitt for sure. You can just see from his sideline reactions that he is really frustrated that he isn't really involved at this point in the offense. However, I really do like Brandon Lloyd and Ernest Wilford. I think JAX will try to ship Wilford this offseason just to get Reggie Williams playing time. In my opinion, all Wilford lacks is straight-line speed and if it took a 3rd rounder to get him or Lloyd, I would do it.

I'm surprised no one else has really talked about our need for a starting TE. With the exception of Heath Miller and Jeremy Shockey, these guys usually take 2-3 years to develop (ie LJ Smith and Ben Troupe). Thus, we must get Aaron Shea in the offseason, who I think would come to us relatively cheap. While he isn't a great run blocker, he is a very good pass protector who has soft hands.

[method man]

thank you, the Offensive line stinks. They can block people on 3 and 2. You dont win with recievers and gadgets. You win with the big uglies on the dline and oline. I am tired of skilled players. People were so excitedabout Sean Taylor. I would rather have two uglies on the dline and oline. Jansen by far is the most overrated of the bunch and Dockery stinks

In my opinion, we need a new OLine coach to serve as OL coach. I think Gibbs should jackburns Bugel--let him keep his job as assistant head coach on offense but have him give up his title as OL coach.

We have the talent on the OLine. It was not so long ago that Samuels was a Pro Bowler and Jansen was considered one of the best young RTs in the league.

[J-Rad]

We don't need any big name free agent wide outs. We need to improve the offensive system, which is currently extremely limited by a bad OL....not by bad wide outs. Do you guys think Gibbs is running so much max protect because it makes him giggle to see all those fat guys out there? He is doing it because if you don't "fumble!" is the outcome because defenders hit Mark damn near instantly.

Improve the OL so that we can send 3 wide outs more often and the passing game will improve dramatically.

On the defensive side, we need MORE DL players not studs. We don't have any depth. Picking up some ok young guys and cycling the DL more during the game will improve the push....also getting rid of Blache wouldn't hurt.

I couldn't agree more. The O-line and D-line are they keys to Gibbs style football. You can argue that other teams that don't have the most dominant lines still do well, especially offensively. True, but Gibbs isn't coaching those teams. The lines, especially the O-line, led Gibbs to 3 Superbowls. As long as he is our coach, that should be our first priority.