Sknzfan Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 With all the WR Screen's....I'm waitng for Brunell to Fake the WR Screen and hit a Streaking WR down the Sideline.....If I'm not mistaken we ran at least 4 WR Screens last night.....and the Iggles played them quite well.....I think Gibbs is hoping that teams will over play the WR Screen and Burn them for it ...or at least " I " hope that 's what Gibbs is doing....anyway.....HAIL SKIN'S !!! :applause: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzmuda Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 The Skins mixed it up a little bit by running that slip screen to Moss out of a different formation than they have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinstzar Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Here is my only problem with this theory. When you throw the WR screen it is from a two or three step drop. You are not very far from the interior line at that point. A pump fake also takes a tremendous amount of time. Not to mention the time it takes for the reciever to start running and head down field. You are setting yourself up to get waxed on a play like that. Also a good D-tackle, say Warren Sapp, would smell that and put his big mitt on the ball when Brunnel's arm is going backwards. I say we don't run that play with a fake, but that is just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinzOwnU Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 We are throwing way too many wide receiver screens in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejay183 Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 We are throwing way too many wide receiver screens in my opinion. So the Pats throw tons of screens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saqs Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 We are throwing way too many wide receiver screens in my opinion. I agree. I keep waiting for a pump and go but it never happens. We need to exploit teams jumping the route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0ublestr0ker0ll Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Here is my only problem with this theory. When you throw the WR screen it is from a two or three step drop. You are not very far from the interior line at that point. A pump fake also takes a tremendous amount of time. Not to mention the time it takes for the reciever to start running and head down field. You are setting yourself up to get waxed on a play like that. Also a good D-tackle, say Warren Sapp, would smell that and put his big mitt on the ball when Brunnel's arm is going backwards. I say we don't run that play with a fake, but that is just me. Warren Sapp? :laugh: A pump and go would take about 2-3 seconds. If we can't block for that long to get Santana Moss zooming downfield then we deserve to get waxed. CP stands longer in the backfield during counter treys than Brunell would take throwing a pump and go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Kao Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 We are throwing way too many wide receiver screens in my opinion. Why is that a problem? They are mostly successful and no one has burned us on one yet. Sure, they are getting sniffed out by some defenses and aren't ALWAYS successful, but what play is? As long as it works, keep doing what you're doing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmania123 Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 We are throwing a lot of screens and other teams are anticipating it because it is sort of our bread and butter...even last year. We need to look like we are doing it, as was said, and keep the other teams D honest by opening it up downfield. The reason the Pats get away with it a lot more than us is because Brady can just as easily heave it accurately downfield as he does the screen. So it keeps the D honest. We need to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrocrb96 Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 With all the WR Screen's....I'm waitng for Brunell to Fake the WR Screen and hit a Streaking WR down the Sideline.....If I'm not mistaken we ran at least 4 WR Screens last night.....and the Iggles played them quite well.....I think Gibbs is hoping that teams will over play the WR Screen and Burn them for it ...or at least " I " hope that 's what Gibbs is doing....anyway.....HAIL SKIN'S !!! :applause: I disagree. I think he's becoming predictable & just needs to make the adjustment to what you suggested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunBunch7 Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Do any of you know which of our receivers might have an "arm". We used to have Rod Gardner throw some passes...maybe we could throw lateral one to Patten then he goes deep to Moss. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSF Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 With all the WR Screen's....I'm waitng for Brunell to Fake the WR Screen and hit a Streaking WR down the Sideline.....If I'm not mistaken we ran at least 4 WR Screens last night.....and the Iggles played them quite well.....I think Gibbs is hoping that teams will over play the WR Screen and Burn them for it ...or at least " I " hope that 's what Gibbs is doing....anyway.....HAIL SKIN'S !!! :applause: I was thinking that last night, and was waiting for the fake and bomb to Moss but it never happened. Whatever it is, Gibbs went to that well a couple of times too many last night. I was sure Philly was going to pick one off and take it to the house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Brunell needs to throw these screens a little faster and a little lower. The one that Moss took 78 yards to the endzone was perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistere Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Execution is key. It doesn't matter if we keep running screen plays and the other team knows it or not. If we execute it well it will work well. Think about Portis' TD yesterday, I doubt a person in the stadium, or at home watching the game on TV didn't know it was going to be Portis up the middle, and what happened? TD. Or the way KC won yesterday. Lined up everyone knew it was going to the tail back and it was going right up the middle, and what happened? TD. Execution is key. It doesn't matter if the D knows it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistere Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Funbunch thanks for the idea. I don't trust many people to throw other than the QB, then again I did love some of those passes Brian Mitchell threw as a redskin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 How about: Fake WR screen, shovel pass to Portis (who "stayed in to pass block")? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sknzfan Posted November 7, 2005 Author Share Posted November 7, 2005 How about: Fake WR screen, shovel pass to Portis (who "stayed in to pass block")? Or even a DRAW or Run to the Opposite side of the Field....it's coming I FEEL it !!! GIBBS is the MAN !!! :point2sky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kappaluvacee Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 I disagree, I think Gibbs is calling all the screens to negate the teams that want to blitz. I was breaking down the Eagles game as it was unfolding. Gibbs used the motion man to identify whom the blitzer was on the overloaded side of the D-Line. That was something he borrowed from Shanahan a week earlier. The Eagles formula is out there; teams are going to break that blitzing pattern by spreading out the formations to make the Eagles dedicate one of their blitzers out on a route. Additionally, I liked the fact that Gibbs tested the stubbornness of the Eagle's Johnson because they refused to let Santana beat them. While doubling Santana they were leaving 1 LB to cover the flat, which at time included a WR. Gibbs kept Cooley and Sellers running straight for the whole in their D, which was just north of the flat and out of the LB's range. It's my guess that Santana will be free to see man coverage again in the near future because teams can't stomach giving up 100 + yards receiving to a Fullback/TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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