Taylor 36 Posted October 17, 2005 Share Posted October 17, 2005 Did anyone notice that the refs screwed the Texans out of a down on their last drive in the first half. I even had to rewind my DVR to make sure my eyes weren't deceiving me. Carr threw for a first down on 3rd and 16. The ESPN marker on the screen said 1st and 10, but the side line official holding the stick changed it to a two. After the next play, which was an incomplete pass, both the ESPN marker and the side line marker went to three. Another incomplete pass after that and they moved the marker to four. The Texan had a timeout and six seconds left on the clock, but tried a long FG and missed it because of the screw up by the officials. The Texans did not even seem to notice. Those refs should be fined or fired for such a disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor 36 Posted October 17, 2005 Author Share Posted October 17, 2005 Not one person has made menion about this mess up on ESPN. It amazes me that none of these so called professionals and experts noticed that an entire down was skipped.:doh: This just proves how bad the officiating has become in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamingwolf Posted October 17, 2005 Share Posted October 17, 2005 I have to admit Im only kinda watching it, Im paying more attention to the game on nfl.com for stats. If this is true, then the refs shouldnt be blamed the Texan coaching staff should be blamed. Theres no way a coaching staff should let that happen, and theres no way the refs can get away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor 36 Posted October 17, 2005 Author Share Posted October 17, 2005 It's true. I have rewound it three times to check. Once for myself and twice to show my brother. I agree that the coaches should take some heat for it, but there is no excuse for the officials to let it happen in the first place. This goes well beyond a blown call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG Posted October 17, 2005 Share Posted October 17, 2005 Was it at the end of the first half? I didn't notice, but I did notice that the Texans suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancalagon the Black Posted October 17, 2005 Share Posted October 17, 2005 He spiked the ball. That's why the clock stopped. 1-15-HOU47 (:35) D.Carr pass incomplete to D.Davis (K.Bentley). 2-15-HOU47 (:31) D.Davis left tackle to HST 48 for 1 yard (K.Bentley). 3-14-HOU48 (:22) D.Carr pass to C.Bradford pushed ob at SEA 37 for 15 yards (K.Herndon). 1-10-SEA37 (:15) D.Carr spiked the ball to stop the clock. 2-10-SEA37 (:15) D.Carr pass incomplete to C.Bradford. 3-10-SEA37 (:10) D.Carr pass incomplete to J.Gaffney. 4-10-SEA37 (:06) K.Brown 56 yard field goal is No Good, Wide Right, Center-B.Pittman, Holder-C.Stanley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamingwolf Posted October 17, 2005 Share Posted October 17, 2005 I agree that the coaches should take some heat for it, but there is no excuse for the officials to let it happen in the first place. This goes well beyond a blown call. I disagree. A blown call happens and the coach screams and the ref ignores him, yet if they steal a down from you and your staff is too dense to realize it thats on your shoulders. First off, if your O coordinator isnt taking down and yards to first into consideration into his play calling you need to get rid of him. So right there thats way worse than a blown call, cause that is occurring every down. Second, if your head coach isnt aware enough to realize that a down was stolen from him thats way worse than a blown call cause its happening every down. This is a Redskin board, we are painfully aware of how pittifull refs are, yet I still dont buy the story I cant believe the Texans werent up in arms about it. That just doesnt add up. ::edit:: ATB comes through, I had wandered away from the keyboard before I sent this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor 36 Posted October 17, 2005 Author Share Posted October 17, 2005 He spiked the ball. That's why the clock stopped.1-15-HOU47 (:35) D.Carr pass incomplete to D.Davis (K.Bentley). 2-15-HOU47 (:31) D.Davis left tackle to HST 48 for 1 yard (K.Bentley). 3-14-HOU48 (:22) D.Carr pass to C.Bradford pushed ob at SEA 37 for 15 yards (K.Herndon). 1-10-SEA37 (:15) D.Carr spiked the ball to stop the clock. 2-10-SEA37 (:15) D.Carr pass incomplete to C.Bradford. 3-10-SEA37 (:10) D.Carr pass incomplete to J.Gaffney. 4-10-SEA37 (:06) K.Brown 56 yard field goal is No Good, Wide Right, Center-B.Pittman, Holder-C.Stanley. He never spiked the ball. I have it on right now on the DVR. The clock stopped because the the receiver went out of bounds. There would not have been a reason for him to spike the ball due to that anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjTj Posted October 17, 2005 Share Posted October 17, 2005 He never spiked the ball. I have it on right now on the DVR. The clock stopped because the the receiver went out of bounds. There would not have been a reason for him to spike the ball due to that anyway. ...jobbed by the refs AND the NFL.com play-by-play guy... Well, it's a good thing the Seahawks won by a zillion points. The refs do really need to get their acts together though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancalagon the Black Posted October 17, 2005 Share Posted October 17, 2005 He never spiked the ball. I have it on right now on the DVR. The clock stopped because the the receiver went out of bounds. There would not have been a reason for him to spike the ball due to that anyway. Hmm. I think you're right. I've looked up the rules; the "clock stops when runner goes out of bounds" rule seems to apply within five minutes of the end of the second half AND within two minutes of the end of the first half. Very strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor 36 Posted October 17, 2005 Author Share Posted October 17, 2005 Yeah, it is really strange that they would even post that he spiked the ball on NFL.com, when it obviously didn't happen. I'm trying to see if I can get it from my DVR onto my computer to post a link for those who don't have Tivo or a DVR (since I know no one would purposefully tape this crappy game). It may have to wait until tomorrow though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrockster21 Posted October 17, 2005 Share Posted October 17, 2005 That's pretty bad, but not as bad as New England getting an extra minute against the Steelers a couple weeks ago. And definitely not as bad as giving the Chiefs an extra foot and a half on their 4th down attempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignatius J. Posted October 17, 2005 Share Posted October 17, 2005 I'm confused. Doesn't the clock ALWAYS stop when someone goes out of bounds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamingwolf Posted October 17, 2005 Share Posted October 17, 2005 I'm confused. Doesn't the clock ALWAYS stop when someone goes out of bounds? only in the last 2 minutes of the first half, and the last 5 minutes of the second half. The clock stops all other times when someone goes out of bounds untill the ball is set at the new line of scrimmage, then the clock rolls again once the ball is set by the ref. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignatius J. Posted October 17, 2005 Share Posted October 17, 2005 wow. I can't believe i didn't know that. I guess it goes to show that I only watch the clock at the ends of the half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrockster21 Posted October 17, 2005 Share Posted October 17, 2005 wow. I can't believe i didn't know that. I guess it goes to show that I only watch the clock at the ends of the half. That's why when they place the ball they whistle and then rotate their arm around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamingwolf Posted October 17, 2005 Share Posted October 17, 2005 well I cant really fault you for it, its a pretty new rule. Only been in effect for a couple of years. I had a near knuckle brawl with my brother in law over that when the rule came out. It wasnt heavily publicized, and I think the reason they didnt hype it was cause they did it to fit the games into a more managable tv package. Some games werent getting enough tv timeouts cause the clock wasnt moving do to the out of bounds routes and loads of passing. Its possible the west coast offense spurred the rule change. Next time your watching a game, take notice of how often they goto commericals vs how often the team runs. You will find that running teams show more commericals than heavy pass teams, cause the pass teams stop the clock with incompletes and that prolongs the game and disrupts the 3 hour product package the nfl is going for. A running team burns way more clock, so they have to use tv timeouts to extend the game. Have you ever noticed durring some games after a punt or a change of possesion they dont goto commericial, thats cause the game clock is moving slower than scheduled. The rule keeps the game clock moving and easier to manage to keep it in the 3 hour window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignatius J. Posted October 17, 2005 Share Posted October 17, 2005 well I cant really fault you for it, its a pretty new rule. Only been in effect for a couple of years. I had a near knuckle brawl with my brother in law over that when the rule came out. It wasnt heavily publicized, and I think the reason they didnt hype it was cause they did it to fit the games into a more managable tv package. Some games werent getting enough tv timeouts cause the clock wasnt moving do to the out of bounds routes and loads of passing. Its possible the west coast offense spurred the rule change.Next time your watching a game, take notice of how often they goto commericals vs how often the team runs. You will find that running teams show more commericals than heavy pass teams, cause the pass teams stop the clock with incompletes and that prolongs the game and disrupts the 3 hour product package the nfl is going for. A running team burns way more clock, so they have to use tv timeouts to extend the game. Have you ever noticed durring some games after a punt or a change of possesion they dont goto commericial, thats cause the game clock is moving slower than scheduled. The rule keeps the game clock moving and easier to manage to keep it in the 3 hour window. I feel so used and dirty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomerics Posted October 17, 2005 Share Posted October 17, 2005 I feel so used and dirty. So what you're telling me is that you feel like Judith Miller right about now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooper Posted October 17, 2005 Share Posted October 17, 2005 That's crazy. You know what else is crazy? That Dom Capers and Casserly have fielded a team that's worse than an expansion team. If I was a Texans fan, I'd be pissed at the awful job the coach and GM have done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosperity Posted October 17, 2005 Share Posted October 17, 2005 wow. I can't believe i didn't know that. I guess it goes to show that I only watch the clock at the ends of the half. I didn't know that either, I assumed the refs were just trying to make the game go by faster, not that it was actually in the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted October 17, 2005 Share Posted October 17, 2005 I didn't know that either, I assumed the refs were just trying to make the game go by faster, not that it was actually in the rules. If we blame anyone for this blame the texans they were getting penalties after each play, i think the refs were just trying to get out of there because it felt like an nfl europe team out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TODD Posted October 17, 2005 Share Posted October 17, 2005 only in the last 2 minutes of the first half, and the last 5 minutes of the second half. The clock stops all other times when someone goes out of bounds untill the ball is set at the new line of scrimmage, then the clock rolls again once the ball is set by the ref. Hmmm. Never knew that, I guess I've always subconciously wondered. Thanks for the tidbit. :helmet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.