mhd24 Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 Pastaballs is driving me insane: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2186291&num=0 "Bell tolls for Broncos The Washington-Denver game was billed all last week as a battle between Redskins tailback Clinton Portis and Broncos cornerback Champ Bailey. The two were the major components in the March 4, 2004, megatrade in which the Broncos got a defender some people in the NFL considered the league's best all-around cornerback and the Redskins got a back who had twice rushed for over 1,500 yards. Turns out, unfortunately, that the much ballyhooed Portis-Bailey meeting never occurred on Sunday, because the Denver corner sat out the game with an injury. Funny thing, though, how it's sometimes the third piece of the puzzle, the overlooked element of a transaction, that becomes a big key in what are supposed to be high profile tete-a-tetes. That was the case on Sunday as Broncos reserve tailback Tatum Bell out-Portised the Redskins' star back, rushing for 127 yards and two touchdowns on just a dozen carries as Denver held off Washington, 21-19, securing the victory when linebacker Ian Gold knocked away a two-point conversion try. Portis, by the way, carried 20 times for 103 yards in his first trip back to the city where he began his excellent career. But what does Tatum Bell have to do with the Portis-Bailey trade? Uh-huh, therein lies the twist, dear readers, that makes for some nifty intrigue. Remember how all the naysayers, in analyzing the deal, insisted that the Redskins gave up way too much for Portis, even given his first two brilliant NFL seasons? Well, Bell, as it turns out, was part of the "way too much." In addition to Bailey, a perennial Pro Bowl player at a high-premium position, the Redskins also included a second-round choice in the 2004 draft in the package they shipped to the Broncos to land Portis. Now, if you've been paying attention, you can pretty much figure out the player the Broncos selected with that extra second-round pick. If you guessed Tatum Bell, well, you win a cheroot. Denver snatched Bell with the 41st overall pick in 2004 and, while the former Oklahoma State star has been inconsistent and often disappointing, he was arguably the difference in Sunday's postponed Portis-Bailey clash, scoring on runs of 34 and 55 yards. Bell is kind of a low-slung slasher, a runner the Denver coaches privately contend is their best back, but who often needs a kick in the behind to get him motivated. The Broncos made Mike Anderson the starter in training camp, in part at least, to try to light a fire under Bell. Not until Sunday, though, with Anderson struggling, did Bell ignite the Broncos' run game. In the first 18 games of his career, Bell ran for 550 yards and three touchdowns on 108 attempts. His performance against a pretty tough Washington defense, a unit that once again totally ignored linebacker LaVar Arrington, accounted for 18.9 percent of his career production. Not bad. Oh, by the way, the Redskins apparently don't acknowledge the second-round pick that was part of the Bailey-Portis deal, and certainly Bell, as part of the big swap. In the Portis biography, on page 134 of this year's Redskins media guide, it notes the fourth-year runner was "acquired in a trade with the Denver Broncos in exchange for cornerback Champ Bailey." Seems the Redskins forgot about the second-round choice they threw into the deal. Too bad, based on Sunday's results, they didn't forget about it when they made the trade, huh? " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 He is as predictable as old faithful......:jerk: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tr1 Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 He didn't watch the game, did he. This guy is an moron...a fat moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzSkinsFan63 Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 Pastaballs is driving me insane:http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2186291&num=0 "Bell tolls for Broncos The Washington-Denver game was billed all last week as a battle between Redskins tailback Clinton Portis and Broncos cornerback Champ Bailey. The two were the major components in the March 4, 2004, megatrade in which the Broncos got a defender some people in the NFL considered the league's best all-around cornerback and the Redskins got a back who had twice rushed for over 1,500 yards. Turns out, unfortunately, that the much ballyhooed Portis-Bailey meeting never occurred on Sunday, because the Denver corner sat out the game with an injury. Funny thing, though, how it's sometimes the third piece of the puzzle, the overlooked element of a transaction, that becomes a big key in what are supposed to be high profile tete-a-tetes. That was the case on Sunday as Broncos reserve tailback Tatum Bell out-Portised the Redskins' star back, rushing for 127 yards and two touchdowns on just a dozen carries as Denver held off Washington, 21-19, securing the victory when linebacker Ian Gold knocked away a two-point conversion try. Portis, by the way, carried 20 times for 103 yards in his first trip back to the city where he began his excellent career. But what does Tatum Bell have to do with the Portis-Bailey trade? Uh-huh, therein lies the twist, dear readers, that makes for some nifty intrigue. Remember how all the naysayers, in analyzing the deal, insisted that the Redskins gave up way too much for Portis, even given his first two brilliant NFL seasons? Well, Bell, as it turns out, was part of the "way too much." In addition to Bailey, a perennial Pro Bowl player at a high-premium position, the Redskins also included a second-round choice in the 2004 draft in the package they shipped to the Broncos to land Portis. Now, if you've been paying attention, you can pretty much figure out the player the Broncos selected with that extra second-round pick. If you guessed Tatum Bell, well, you win a cheroot. Denver snatched Bell with the 41st overall pick in 2004 and, while the former Oklahoma State star has been inconsistent and often disappointing, he was arguably the difference in Sunday's postponed Portis-Bailey clash, scoring on runs of 34 and 55 yards. Bell is kind of a low-slung slasher, a runner the Denver coaches privately contend is their best back, but who often needs a kick in the behind to get him motivated. The Broncos made Mike Anderson the starter in training camp, in part at least, to try to light a fire under Bell. Not until Sunday, though, with Anderson struggling, did Bell ignite the Broncos' run game. In the first 18 games of his career, Bell ran for 550 yards and three touchdowns on 108 attempts. His performance against a pretty tough Washington defense, a unit that once again totally ignored linebacker LaVar Arrington, accounted for 18.9 percent of his career production. Not bad. Oh, by the way, the Redskins apparently don't acknowledge the second-round pick that was part of the Bailey-Portis deal, and certainly Bell, as part of the big swap. In the Portis biography, on page 134 of this year's Redskins media guide, it notes the fourth-year runner was "acquired in a trade with the Denver Broncos in exchange for cornerback Champ Bailey." Seems the Redskins forgot about the second-round choice they threw into the deal. Too bad, based on Sunday's results, they didn't forget about it when they made the trade, huh? " 3-1 Lenny...3-1... must be killing ya other than the heart attack awaiting.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neophyte Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 Hey, while I am not happy about his bringing it back up he has a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TODD Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 Write in Tatum Bell for the Pro Bowl and Hall of Fame right now because some some poor tackling by Matt Bowen and Philip Daniels. :jerk: What has he done before this game? No way could he have done what he did yesterday without spelling a BIG back in Mike Anderson. That's what makes Denver's system so great this year is that they have a fullback playing running back and THEN spelling it with a fast back. I'm sorry, but no way Tatum Bell could put up numbers like that by himself as a feature back. Atleast not yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 Hey, while I am not happy about his bringing it back up he has a point. I agree it wasn't Champ or Portis who determined the game it was the dam second round pick we gave up :doh: Yes I love we got Portis but it wasn't worth giving up a 2nd as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truant Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 Bell pwned us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tr1 Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 Hey, while I am not happy about his bringing it back up he has a point. BS...Portis had a big run early in the game that got called back...if we caught any breaks yesterday (other than the ones we got in the final drive), we would have won that game. It's not the altitude that is the home team advantage in Denver...is the refs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 Hey, while I am not happy about his bringing it back up he has a point. what point, cearly ignoring the game and focus on a little fact to rub salt in the wound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiebear Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 One game does not make a pick... As stated, this back sucked till now and constantly needed a kick in the arse.... One Tsunami game doesnt make him a steal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 Bell pwned us. the holding of Griffin helped a little Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oompa lumpa Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 One game does not make a pick... As stated, this back sucked till now and constantly needed a kick in the arse.... One Tsunami game doesnt make him a steal. your right. He is only averaging 6 yards a carry so far in his carreer. pathetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouvan59 Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 Hey, while I am not happy about his bringing it back up he has a point. He also neglected to point out the real reason that Bell doesn't see the field more often is because he can't figure out the blocking schemes. Until that happens he isn't going to be a starter. And if you are going to broaden the Portis-Bailey trade you then have to factor in Shawn Springs who has been better than Bailey, Portis and Bell. He also fails to mention that since that trade our ground game and defense has improved while Denver has been worse in both. As much as everyone throws out the "you can plug anyone in that system" mantra, Denver rushed for 300 more yards and a half a yard per carry more in 2003 than they did last year. They also gave up more points on defense and more passing yards per game. Hate all you want Fatty P but the deal has been good for the Skins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 Lenny had some other tidbits: "Let's give your buddy [Dan] Snyder credit for when he does something right. He got the better of the Laveranues Coles-Santana Moss deal. Moss is playing huge for the Skins, making a lot of plays." and There are several teams that would love to try to salvage (Washington linebacker) LaVar Arrington, but his contract makes him untradeable. When he's cut at the end of the year, though, he'll get action in the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isifhan Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 He also fails to mention that by letting Champ go we were able to sign not only Portis but Springs and Griffin for the money we saved. Yet that's overlooked. Typical trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 your right. He is only averaging 6 yards a carry so far in his carreer.pathetic If he is so wonderful, then why isn't he starting? Since when has Shannahan been shy about playing rookie RBs? Oh yeah - he hasn't. Bell hasn't played much because he's been soft. While Mike Anderson has not. Simple. And please, the YPC argument? It's a little stale. Most 3rd down backs have solid YPC. It doesn't mean they can run the ball 300 times if the coach called for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntotoro Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 He is as predictable as old faithful......:jerk: And as full of hot, explosive gases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 your right. He is only averaging 6 yards a carry so far in his carreer.pathetic 677 yards in 19 games played or 35.6 yards a game (he missed 2 games last year) awesome avg. for only a second round pick :laugh: oh and his ypc is 5.64, not 6.0 (120 att 677 yard, 6.3 carries per games played)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Prime Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 Bell pwned us. L33t speak from a 24 year old? Oh yeah Lenny's fat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrentonboy Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 Write in Tatum Bell for the Pro Bowl and Hall of Fame right now because some some poor tackling by Matt Bowen and Philip Daniels. :jerk: What has he done before this game? No way could he have done what he did yesterday without spelling a BIG back in Mike Anderson. That's what makes Denver's system so great this year is that they have a fullback playing running back and THEN spelling it with a fast back. I'm sorry, but no way Tatum Bell could put up numbers like that by himself as a feature back. Atleast not yet. Not only that great point you make, but if we make those two tackles and how many yards does he have???? I know it shouldn't come down to that. We had plenty to do with our losing this game. The thing I see, is that we moved the ball very well all game long. Putting it in the end zone is something we gotta work on. Every week that goes by, we get better & better. I feel pretty good about where we are...compared to last year, 100% turnaround. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walking Deadman Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 He didn't watch the game, did he. This guy is an moron...a fat moron. Too busy eating and watching the Cowboys/Eagles game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carter23 Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 did he say tetes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oompa lumpa Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 If he is so wonderful, then why isn't he starting? Since when has Shannahan been shy about playing rookie RBs? Oh yeah - he hasn't. Bell hasn't played much because he's been soft. While Mike Anderson has not. Simple.And please, the YPC argument? It's a little stale. Most 3rd down backs have solid YPC. It doesn't mean they can run the ball 300 times if the coach called for it. He had injury issues last year buddy. and mike anderson flat out won the starting job this spring. Plus I think Shanny might have felt bad because anderson missed all of last season due to a preseason injury playing on special teams for no reason. Most bronco fans you talk to believe he will be a star, and that way before yesterdays game. He is one of the fastest RB's in the league to go along with a big body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tizzod Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 I think he gets perverse pleasure out of finding SOMETHING to fault us for. Whatever. Doesn't bother me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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