MikeB Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 As has been typical of the impatient Snyder years, Green was let go all too early. I thought it was clear he had some real talent, just needed more time to develop with a consistent roster. I would like to submit Rich Gannon into that mold as well. Needed more time with a consistent roster... he flourished when the peices where there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 Originally posted by rteich17 what about just the past 2 seasons? smoot Pierce trotter Bailey coles in all of those postions, we are now weaker. What a bad offseason Such a pessimist Shawn Springs more than filled Champ's shoes, I don't know what you were watching. Pierce is a gigantic question mark. Let me guess, we're weaker at MLB because we don;'t know how well whoever will take over will play... kinda like last year at this time when it became clear that Pierce would have to step in for Barrow and we had no idea how he was going to play.. Coles to Moss. weaker? Maybe, maybe not. the guy DOES have a bad foot everyone seems to forget about, and more importantly, for the weakness we grant at receiver by letting him go, we gain it in team strength in terms of unity, which he certainly was not going to help. Trotter,, you can't even include him at all since he was replaced by another guy on your list, and by including him and Pierce BOTH proves to me you didn't think too much about this. I mean, we replaced Trotter with a total unknown, and now he's supposedly one of the better MLBs in the NFL. Smoot is the ONE area there that we may actually be weaker for now, but in due time I believe Carlos Rogers will be every bit as good. How about the fact that we're stronger in the areas we were weakest in last year.. namely offensive line? And my pick for guy we should have never let get away is David Akers. ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The extremist Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 Stan Humphries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkart Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 Originally posted by Blade Im surprise that Frank Wycheck was left off this list.... I remember being pissed as heck that we released him. And of course, he goes to a couple of ProBowls for Tenn and is the passer on the Music City Miracle. Yeah! I was also upset about Frank leaving, you could just tell he was becoming an outstanding TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 What about Sean Gilbert? Wasn't he supposed to be our solution on defense? I'd definately put Tre Johnson on this list. I'd add Gardner too since he's aboout to be a has been. When he got here he started off looking like the anti-Westbrook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaBeachSkinzFan Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 What about Todd Franz and Leomont Evans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 Dan Wilkinson- sucked when he was here, even with Gardener beside him Stephen Alexander- the Grant Hill of the NFL Darrell Russell- Here for like a couple games and isn't even in the leauge anymore. Coles- Wasn't a Redskin, I don't care if he wore B&G or not. He was always a Jet Champ Bailey- Shawn Springs Jessie Armstead- Marcus Washington I don't miss any of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redman Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 15 years ago this thread would have meant something. With free agency and the salary cap, this is largely a silly discussion. Only true misses like we had with David Akers are worth the discussion. But for guys like Kalu, how long are we supposed to wait for them to develop while they're taking up a roster spot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red zone Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 Originally posted by D'Pablo QB: Trent Green HB: Stephen Davis FB: Bryan Johnson TE: Stephen Alexander WR: Keenan McCardell WR: Laveranues Coles LT: Andy Heck LG: Ross Tucker C: Corey Raymer RG: Ray Brown RT: ? LE: Ndukwe Kalu DT: Dan Wilkinson DT: Darrell Russell RE: Kenard Lang OLB: Sean Barber MLB: Trotter/Pierce/Smith OLB: Jessie Armstead SS: Ifeanyi Ohalete FS: David Terrell CB: Fred Smoot CB: Champ Bailey Not bad... slow day. Add names if you like. I don't have enough free time to blow this list to smitherines. There is a great reason all those guys are gone or in some cases left and came back. Stephen Davis? Dude rushed fro like 26 yards in the biggest game of his life! David Terrell. Are you kidding me!? With regards to this thread, why are you looking backwards?Focus on the challenge which lies ahead. Focus. Ahead. Please. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red zone Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 Originally posted by Bang Such a pessimist Shawn Springs more than filled Champ's shoes, I don't know what you were watching. Pierce is a gigantic question mark. Let me guess, we're weaker at MLB because we don;'t know how well whoever will take over will play... kinda like last year at this time when it became clear that Pierce would have to step in for Barrow and we had no idea how he was going to play.. Coles to Moss. weaker? Maybe, maybe not. the guy DOES have a bad foot everyone seems to forget about, and more importantly, for the weakness we grant at receiver by letting him go, we gain it in team strength in terms of unity, which he certainly was not going to help. Trotter,, you can't even include him at all since he was replaced by another guy on your list, and by including him and Pierce BOTH proves to me you didn't think too much about this. I mean, we replaced Trotter with a total unknown, and now he's supposedly one of the better MLBs in the NFL. Smoot is the ONE area there that we may actually be weaker for now, but in due time I believe Carlos Rogers will be every bit as good. How about the fact that we're stronger in the areas we were weakest in last year.. namely offensive line? And my pick for guy we should have never let get away is David Akers. ~Bang On the mark Bang! Plus Darrell Russel is on his list. I think he meant Darrell Gardner who arguable was the top D tackle we've had here in quite some time. Unfortunately, Gardner also had a ton of baggage and has done jack squat since he left. Lastly, Shawn Barber would not start on the 2005 team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 QB: Trent Green agree HB: Stephen Davis - had one more great year, but is toast now. FB: Bryan Johnson BFD... Larry Centers was a much bigger loss TE: Stephen Alexander -too brittle, only stayed healthy one year WR: Keenan McCardell - huge loss at the time, but he's on his last legs now WR: Laveranues Coles - LT: Andy Heck - We got the last 2 good seasons out of him before he was sent out to pasture, so I'm not sure why he's on this list. LG: Ross Tucker BFD... C: Corey Raymer :puke: RG: Ray Brown Bummer, but he is back with us. Why our front office didn't sign him 2 years ago instead of giving up a draft pick for the useless Brendan Stai...:doh: RT: LE: Ndukwe Kalu Eh.... he's never been that great. DT: Dan Wilkinson Probably should've hung on to him for one more year. DT: Darrell Russell WTF? He got cut by Tampa after we let him go, and is probably flipping burgers now. RE: Kenard Lang - decent but not great. Didn't want to stay here OLB: Sean Barber - Bummer we didn't keep him, but Washington is a far far better player. MLB: Trotter/Pierce/Smith OLB: Jessie Armstead - He was done when we let him go. SS: Ifeanyi Ohalete - Way too slow FS: David Terrell - WTF? We've got almost half a dozen DBs on the roster better than this loser. Good ST player, but that's it. CB: Fred Smoot - It hurts seeing Smooty in Purple. CB: Champ Bailey - He can take his $18m SB and be happy. Springs is better, though he likely he only has a couple years left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaddogCT Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 Originally posted by denverdan Brian Davis & Brad Edwards. Sometimes I wake up at night calling out their names. You must be hungry for toast at night. (Not so much for Brad, but Brian couldn't cover Nate Newton.) Larry Centers being cut by Marty is something I will never understand. Green was a free agent after the 1998 season. We tried to re-sign him, but the Rams offered more money. As a result we traded a first and third rounder in 1999 draft and a second in the 2000 draft. The Vinkings picked Daunte Culpepper that year. Culpepper spent the first year sitting behind of all people: Jeff George. The steroids issue made the team leery on keeping Wycheck. :logo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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