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I'm an Eagles fan. Just to set the record straight, Toohill was never a member of the Eagles Practice Squad. He made the 53-man roster as a seventh round pick and even dressed for the opener against the WFT. It was when the Eagles tried to sneak him through waivers to put him on the PS that their plan backfired. They didn't think anyone was going to claim him and thought that he would be able to bounce between their PS and the 53 throughout that weird 2020 season. He would probably be better than Ryan Kerrigan has been this year.

The 49ers only signed him as an injury replacement for Robbie Gould. Now that Gould is healthy, he wasn't needed. And they sure as heck weren't going to release Gould instead.

Yeah, that would have been the smart choice. You'd probably have about a 5-10% chance of winning. The odds of a non-Justin Tucker kicker making a 65-yarder outdoors in November in Pittsburgh are just about zero. I was shocked when I saw them trotting out the kicking unit.

The Eagles had a sack-fest against the Lions. Their two rookie draft pick ends got their first career sacks. Ryan Kerrigan did nothing.

It's probably not worth it to interject into this discussion but I'll say this. I'm an Eagles fan and longtime season ticket holder who has lived in the Philadelphia area for over sixty years. There's almost nothing about this assertion that comes close to what I perceive to be the truth. "Hurts was actually playing well" -- Are you serious? He was 7 of 20 for 72 yards and a pick. He was having a dreadful night.

As an Eagles fan, it makes me sick. I hated the very thought that they were even entertaining the notion of trading him this past offseason, and when it actually transpired, I was disgusted. I said right then that this would end up being like the Jurgensen trade -- you get rid of a talented guy who's really just entering his prime and he ends up having his glory years for another franchise. The only reason you make a trade like that is if you are 100% certain (not 70% or 90%, but 100%) that Hurts is legit. But it certainly looks right now that that isn't the case. He doesn't have a great arm. He's not consistently accurate. And although he runs well (not in the class of Cunningham, McNabb or Vick, however), his pocket presence is atrocious. And when he starts to scramble, he's almost guaranteed to throw an incompletion if he actually ends up passing the ball.

It's all right. I was figuring he was probably over the hill at this point anyway. Didn't quite expect that he would be this bad though. The defensive coordinator was singing his praises yesterday, saying how he's always in the right position and does the right things. But I think we all know that's just a form of coach-speak.

Eagles fan here. Season ticket holder for over fifty years. Just wanted to let you all know that Ryan Kerrigan has yet to come close to an opposing quarterback in six games and has basically made only one play against the run where you would actually come away thinking, "hmmm...nice play by Kerrigan there." He's been that invisible. You really don't even notice him, it's been that bad. The dude was a monster against us for about a decade but looks like complete garbage in Eagles green. To be fair, he missed almost all of the preseason, but still...

This is true, but it suggests (maybe you didn't mean it that way) that they made the trade during the draft. The trade actually happened on March 26th, about a month before the draft. It was a two-tiered process for the Dolphins, who owned the third pick in the draft, courtesy of the Houston Texans. The Eagles were at six. The 49ers were at twelve. The Dolphins had already committed to Tua and weren't interested in picking a quarterback with the third pick. The 49ers wanted that pick, obviously for Trey Lance. The Dolphins didn't want to move all the way to twelve, so they worked a deal with the Eagles with the Eagles giving up the sixth pick. In that deal, the Eagles got the twelfth pick and the Dolphins first round pick next year. (A swap of fourth and fifth round picks was also included.) The 49ers traded that twelfth pick originally, along with first round picks in '22 and '23, to Miami for the third overall pick. A third rounder was also included. So basically the Dolphins moved from three to six, and got two extra first round picks from the 49ers while giving up their own first round pick next year to the Eagles. The Eagles moved from six to twelve and picked up Miami's first round pick next year. The 49ers moved from twelve to three and gave up first round picks in both '22 and '23. Ultimately the Dolphins got an extra first round pick in the deals. This was also true for the Eagles. The 49ers on the other hand surrendered two future first round picks. As an Eagles fan, I'm happy (at the moment anyway) that the first round pick they acquired from Miami was theirs rather than the 49ers. It seems like the Niners might be decent this year while the Dolphins won't be. But there's still a lot of season to be played so I can't get too carried away with excitement. Miami's taking Jaylen Waddle was kind of a surprise when it happened but it's not like they traded up *during* the draft to take him. And incidentally, the Eagles subsequently moved up from twelve to ten in a trade with the Cowboys to snag DeVonta Smith from the Giants at the cost of a third round pick. That move set in motion the Giants trade-down with the Bears which netted them Chicago's first round pick next year. So as Washington fans, you guys need to be rooting for the Dolphins and Bears to not be terrible this year so that your division rivals don't get especially high extra first round picks. As an Eagles fan, I'm also rooting for the Bears to do well but for the Dolphins to be bad and for the Colts to be bad if and only if Carson Wentz plays 75% of their snaps.

Yup. The common retort is that they have had more stadiums over that period of time than they have had playoff victories.

The Eagles also drafted Clayton Thorson in the fifth round a couple years ago. He was perhaps the worst quarterback I've ever had the pleasure of watching in the preseason. He was cut his rookie year and hung around the Cowboys practice squad for awhile. I think he might have been with the Giants in camp this year. I doubt he's still in the league. Young was drafted by the Bucs. The 49ers traded for him.

The league would occasionally have Thursday night games back then. I vividly recall an early season Eagles at Bills game in '81. I'm an Eagles fan who was going to college at the time. My friends went out to the pub that night (Thursday was always the big party night on campus because many students would go home on Friday for the weekend.) I stayed in my dorm room to watch the game all alone. The Eagles won so it was a great night. I suspect that that Redskins night game was similarly arranged.

We flew down on a charter flight with hundreds of fans that morning and flew back that night. The flight down was great. The flight back was absolutely horrible. Tickets to the game were $50 a piece. I kid you not...when we were walking towards the stadium, scalpers were selling tickets for $40. They were taking a loss rather than making a profit. I guess it wasn't a marketable matchup.

Okay, since you asked. Didn't really care for RFK but that was probably because the Skins destroyed the Eagles in Buddy Ryan's debut. But overall it felt kinda cramped. That was obviously a long time ago and I don't have much of a memory of that day. Randall Cunningham tried a quick kick and hit the ball into the back of a lineman. Baltimore's old stadium was just a generic old stadium with bleacher seats. Obviously pretty bland. It was a really cold day too, and the game ended in a tie. Ugh. I loved Giants Stadium. It was very rectangular, so that the seating area was very close to the field. Loved that. Overall a good atmosphere too. Giants fans for the most were pretty respectful, though that was more twenty/thirty years ago than nowadays. The new Browns stadium is pretty good. Have been there several times. Not the best but pretty solid. They didn't do anything ultra-fancy with it, and I kinda like that. Carolina's was nice. It's right downtown, just a ten minute walk from our hotel. It's pretty big. Definitely liked it. We had seats in literally the last row. Houston's was excellent. Probably my favorite. They did a nice job with that one. Kansas City is similar to Giants Stadium with its design. I guess it was okay but I prefer Giants Stadium, perhaps only because I was used to it having been there a dozen or more times. I was told in advance that the Chiefs fans would be great, but that was kind of a myth. We had the drunken idiots behind us talking smack at us for the whole first half even though we were quiet and respectful. It was just me and my dad, who was in his seventies at the time. When the Eagles roared back from a 17-0 early deficit to eventually pull away to a victory, the idiots behind us had literally passed out. Anyway, the stadium itself was okay. No frills. I guess it has its charm. Ford Field is kinda cool, now that I think about it. We had box seats (my buddy had connections) so it was a good experience. Kinda reminded me of a hockey arena built at about a scale of 4X. Liked it. But that may be in part because we had incredible seats. Cincinnati (the new one) was reasonable, I guess. Like Cleveland, it wasn't particularly fancy. But I guess it was okay. Current Giants Stadium is terrible. Even their own fans hate it. It's too damn big, for one thing. And because of all the luxury boxes, the seating bowl is much farther away from the field than at the old stadium. We sat in the endzone and it felt like we were forty yards behind the back of the end zone. And getting out of the parking lot after the game is a nightmare for people who don't do it every week and know the ins and outs of which lane takes you to which highway. FedEx just feels cheaply made. I sat in the upper deck a few times and was generally pleased with the view. I prefer upper deck anyway. The last few times I went, I had to sit in the lower level. And I hated it because we had to stand about 80% of the time. Once someone stands up -- which is just about every play -- everyone behind them does too, so it cascades back through every row. I could not stand that. Oh, and probably the worst part of the design is that the seats are cramped, both sideways and front ways. There's very little leg room. And it feels like there are about two more seats in each row than there should be. It's just cramped and uncomfortable. And yes, despite what some of the hometown faithful have argued, the parking and traffic are abysmal. I'm sorry but it's the truth. Oh, almost forgot about the Chargers stadium they played in when they moved back to Los Angeles. Just a soccer stadium that only seated about 25,000. Yeah, that one was awesome as far as watching the game goes. The fans were right up close to the field. It was cool too because it was about 75% Eagles fans so the atmosphere was almost like a home game for us. Duh, forgot about New Orleans. The Superdome is massive and it feels like you're kind of far from the action. Saw the Eagles lose a Super Bowl there so it doesn't bring back good memories. The upper deck is really, really high. The weird thing about going to a game in New Orleans is that doesn't seem to be any parking. Other than the Super Bowl, I stayed in hotels and walked there. But I wonder how the locals get go the game. Maybe they have a great public transportation system. I really don't know. Forgot about Miami too. I went there to watch a Giants-Dolphins game in '96, so this was well before its recent redesign. It was built with too square of a profile, so the sideline seats were way too far away from the field. Didn't care for that at all. On the plus side, the parking lots were massive. I was at the old Colts stadium in Indianapolis but it wasn't for a game. That was kind of impressive though. Kinda surprised they built a new one to replace it. I guess that's it. Favorites would be Houston and Detroit, as well as that soccer stadium the Chargers played in. None of the above. I went to a Pirates game in their new stadium about fifteen years ago and liked it a lot.

Really disagree with this. I'm an Eagles fan who went to both of those stadiums many times to watch them play. I thought Giants Stadium was awesome. (The new one is horrible though). FedEx is ... well, you guys all know already.

As far as running is concerned, yeah, they are very similar. Cat quick. Elusive. Fast. But as far as throwing a football is concerned, Vick had way more talent.

Yeah, he was definitely impressive this preseason. It's not surprising at all they they cut Cam Newton today. It was inevitable that Jones was going to be the starter sooner than later, so why not pull the band aid right now?

But to go on IR, a player has to make the 53-man roster first. So if they want to put him on IR for the year, they'd have to keep him on cutdown day, and after the smoke clears, put him on IR to clear a roster spot, and then sign someone else to fill that spot.

Has he even played in the games?

I'm an Eagles fan who was ticked off when they casually released Toohill last September, thinking he would easily clear waivers and they would be able to slide him onto their practice squad and therefore be able to promote him on and off the active roster throughout the season. Instead, he got snagged by your team and they were stuck looking like idiots. So I'm genuinely curious how he's doing. Is he a bubble guy? Or is it expected that he's going to make it? Has he done anything at all in the preseason games?

In case anyone is interested. I'm a stats geek who maintains a database of all field goal attempts, along with the probability numbers of each and every distance. For example a 50 yard field goal is made about 62% of the time. A 55 yarder is right at 50%. A 40 yarder is about 80%. Last year there were 34 kickers who attempted at least ten field goals. Of those 34, Hopkins ranked 24th in what I would classify as expectancy of kick percentage. He attempted 34 kicks (excluding his attempt in the playoffs) and made 27. Based on the distances of each kick, the expected value was about 26.23. So he was plus .77. (For the sake of clarity, these expectation numbers are based on the NFL kicking efficiency back in 2000. Kickers have gotten better across the board, so most kickers these days end up on the "plus" side.) Three times .77 is about 2.3, so basically Hopkins earned the team a little more than two points above what would have been expected throughout the course of the season. If you divide the 2.3 by the number of attempts (34), you get about .068, which as I said earlier comes in 24th. With the exception of 2018 (he had a good year), Hopkins usually ranks between 15th and 25th. Kinda average. Not horrible but never among the truly good ones either.

Thank you. I find it disgusting to think that older fans like me are forced to pay a processing fee for a service that was routinely provided. It smacks of discrimination to me. Again, thank you.

As a longtime (over fifty years) season ticket holder for the Eagles, I have a question for all Washington season ticket holders. Here's what I'm curious about. Does your team offer printed tickets (y'know, the old fashioned tickets we've known and used since our childhood)? Or are you all REQUIRED to use a digital thingee from your cell phone to enter the stadium? I don't even own a cell phone so I have no idea how this is even done. The reason I'm asking is that the Eagles have been atrocious with their interactions with their older fans. If you speak to their ticket office and ask about getting printed tickets, they'll tell you they won't allow it. (Which is BS, by the way). And then when they finally admit that, well, yes, they can print tickets, they'll find try to make you pay a ridiculous amount (in our case, $100) for that privilege. And then they'll say that, well, no team in the league prints tickets anymore because the league won't let them. I'm convinced they are outright lying. So I'm appealing to you guys to give me the straight skinny on this regarding your own team. Thanks.

As an Eagles fan, it sure felt like Kerrigan had monster games every time the Eagles faced him. Sheesh, he must have had half of his career sacks against us. It seemed like that anyway. Always thought he was a very good player. Hope he has a little something left in the tank, although it will probably be wasted on a team that's probably going nowhere this year anyway. As for players going to division rivals, eh, it happens. We had to watch DeSean Jackson playing in a Redskins uniform for three years (and of course saving his monster games for when he faced us). Harold Carmichael ended his career with the hated Cowboys. And of course there's Brian Mitchell and Mark Bavaro playing for the Eagles. Heck, Mitchell even played for the Giants at the tail end of his career. Like I said...it happens.

As an Eagles fan, I'm quite disappointed about the loss of Toohill, especially to a division rival. We obviously didn't get to watch him in the preseason, but the reports from camp were all positive. And when he made the 53-man roster, the coaches made a point to rave about the progress he was making, how amazing he was at taking coaching. Basically, they said he always did the right thing and always made the corrections that were suggested. He ended up beating out Joe Ostman for the final DE spot. I'm sure you've never heard of Ostman, but he was a huge fan favorite even though he's never done a damn thing in three years. But reporters at the practices would always tweet about Ostman anytime he made a good play. So the Eagles fans have been in love with the guy, which has ticked me off because, as I said, he didn't do jack in the preseason in '18. And he missed all of '19 with a knee injury. Anyway Toohill beat him out, and even dressed for the opener against y'all. It sure seemed like he was on track to be a guy you'd be semi-excited about as a late round pick. But the Eagles have been getting murdered with injuries this year and have had to constantly massage the bottom end of their roster just so they could have enough players at every unit every week. So even if Toohill were to be ranked as the 53rd player on the team, they've had to activate guys lower on the totem pole -- let's say for argument players number 57, 60, and 63 -- for game days. And I guess they thought they could smoothly slide him onto the practice squad for a few weeks until everything settles down. Probably didn't think any team would claim him because of the whole COVID thing and all the protocol that has to be adhered to when you add someone new to your building. And there's also a great video on Youtube which shows the reaction of Toohill as he's getting the phone call when he's being drafted. Family all excited. And he's exuberant about it all. It's such a bummer to me that we lost him. Granted, seventh round picks usually don't amount to a whole heckuva lot. But still...he was someone I've really been rooting for since April. Yeah, the scouting report is...great athlete...can really run...has pass rush ability...very good special teams...terrible against the run.