Anselmheifer

Is it crazy to think about us signing Bryce Huff AND Danielle Hunter? We have the dollars to do it. That and a MIKE, and we suddenly can go all in on offense in the draft. Enormously improved defense, OL, and QB situation in one offseason.

Honestly, I'd take Jay Gruden as OC over some of these guys. He is not a good HC. But, we have seen 1st hand that he can scheme receivers open, develop a young QB, and run a successful offense if he has weapons. He also would likely not get poached. Ever.

Yes. and exactly. Who cares? How many other teams got their exact first choice hire? Just the Chargers? The results are what matter. If Quinn brings in a great staff and we develop a quarterback and win, then, great. Literally the only reason I wanted Ben Johnson so badly is that I thought he was the best guy to design an offense from the ground up to successfully bring along and develop a rookie QB. I didn't think he was the best guy for building a staff and winning games. If we can develop our rookie QB, I'll be perfecntly happy with Quinn, and he will probably win more games than a Ben Johnson type guy. But, we have to develop that QB successfully.

OK. Talk to me like I am a baby. What is, "sequencing"?

What type of scheme does Klingsbury run? How does it seem like he would do developing a rookie QB?

I'm not saying he isn't worth that, but he isn't worth that to us, and it really is QB money. You can find WR's all through the draft. I'd be saving my money for positions where it is harder to find guys. OT. Edge. Etc.

I'm not sure how to feel about Xavier Legette's measurements and relatively por senior bowl showing. On one hand, I think he probably drops to us. On the other, I wonder if I had him over rated based on how tall I thought he was.

I think this might partially be a case of a GM looking at the potential to build a team from the ground up with a ton of picks and money and a high end rookie QB. And the potential coaches looking and seeing an unfinished roster without high end talent or an established QB, and thinking that we may be 2y away from being a safe bet for a coaching career. Maybe.

I hope JPP does fall and we can grab him. looking at the OT measurements, another guy that was extremely disappointing is Jordan Morgan. His arm length was 32 and 7/8. How much do you think Fuaga’s length is going to hurt him (33 and 3/8)?

Does the Rooney rule apply when hiring coordinators? Also, I can't wait for this to be done, so we can all start wringing our hands about who the DC is. Then which QB we are drafting at 2. It's awesome for us to get a new owner, GM, HC, and franchise QB in 1 year. Almost unheard of. That being said, I can't wait until we have normal discussions about FA and the draft next year.

Oh, my God. Is that the, 'My Pillow' guy?! Also, Sam's facial expression and body language looks like someone just stole his GF there.

I don’t think this is what will happen, but Johnson will be a first time HC, and isn’t a rah rah type guy. I think Dan Quinn as DC/assistant HC could be very complementary. Quinn could be helpful in the HC logistics and be the rah rah guy, and is an experienced DC. Johnson would be the big picture guy with the larger vision. I think this could free up Johnson to some degree in terms of being a 1st time HC, but also the primary play caller.

I don't have any stats. I'm just saying that someone published an article with stats that in no way support his conclusions. But I agree. 2002 is an age ago. For me, I think the interview would mostly be about seeing who he has lined up for a potential staff, and how he sees the current roster and how it fits his preferred schemes. It's probably also important when considering candidates that haven't been head coaches before.

This doesn't make a lot of sense. They are interviewing in Detroit and in DC on the same day? This data couldn't be less impressive. Offensive minded head coaches have won 51% of their games vs 48% for defensive minded head coaches since 2002? And in the post season it's 51% vs 49%? I doubt those numbers are statistically significant. Certainly the data above that does seem to reinforce the importance of having a top 5 offense. I think when you take all of that data together, what you can glean, is that defensive minded head coaches aren't much less likely to field a top offense. I still want Ben Johnson, because I think he's a good coach, we are going to be breaking in a rookie QB, and I want the offensive stability. But if there wasn't such a good offensive candidate available, I wouldn't mind a defensive candidate.

I’ve been thinking about him too, since that senior bowl post. I basically haven’t watched him at all, but I’d love to hear from some of our regulars.

I think of Jahan more as a slot guy that can occasionally get open deep. He’s not a high end speed guy. Terry is fast and can get deep. I think of him more as a do everything guy. But imagine another speed guy drawing safety coverage away from Terry. We currently do have another burner, in Samuel, but, I think we are likely to let him leave. Do we want to go in to next season with a new QB and less receiving talent and receiving speed than we had on the field this season? I don’t think it’s as high a priority as QB/OL or maybe even TE, but I would do SOMETHING. Obviously, we are going to address some of these issues in FA

I hope Legette turns an ankle, doesn’t play, and never works out before the draft. What I think is more likely however is that the Senior Bowl is part of what propels him into the 1st round. What does everyone here thing about Xavier Worthy, out of Texas? We could use a big play, elite speed guy to take the top off and relieve Terry of some pressure.

This times 1,000. Next year, if Johnson leaves and the Lions regress, which seems likely, everyone will be saying, “That’s why you hire an offensive minded play caller”. Ditto Houston after Slowik leaves. And I think it’s 1,000 more important with a young QB that you’re breaking in. If we had Kirk Cousins, no big deal. Dude is old and knows the game. I’m gonna be soooooo much more confident in Drake Maye being good if we land Johnson/Fraley. Johnson, Fraley and Peters would give him the absolute best shot to maximize his talent. It’s the opposite of handing a 5th round QB the keys under Rivera and Bienemy.

Fuaga gets a lot of love on the board, but I don’t see JC Latham referenced nearly as much. What’s the feeling in the board about Latham Va Fuaga?

Where did you see this?

It sounds like Ben Johnson/Hank Fraley as HC/OC seems more and more likely, and I would be ecstatic with that being the staff in charge of developing a young QB. I've half moved on to wondering more what caliber of hire we should be expecting at DC. I'm super curious about that, since we don't have a stacked defensive roster and an incoming DC might expect some struggled for a while based on personnel.

I'm not mad at the trade, because it helped bring us the 2nd overall pick in the draft and cap flexibility. Trading Montez and Chase might be what brings us 10 years of stability at QB. But, to your point, watching Montez explode the moment after the trade makes JDR and Rivera look exactly as incompetent as they are. I can not believe that someone would look at the investments we made on D and our underperformance on that side of the ball, and consider bringing in Ron as a DC. The coaching of this team was every bit as bad as the drafting. Just embarrassingly bad. With regards to BPA vs going all in on offense, I am usually a BPA guy. I think you could make an argument this year to invest heavily in the offense. This draft, and maybe the Washington careers of our next HC and of Peters is in large part going to be determined by the success of the QB we choose. If you give that QB the absolute best OL and weapons and coaching that you can, you might win less games over the next year or two, but you may also make the team much more successful in the longer term. And, given all of the cap room we have, it doesn't really have to be either or. I'm curious what the rest of the board thinks about how much Peters not yet having his own guys and structure in place, and instead being saddled with our previous scouts and FO staff, is going to to affect the likelihood of him getting great results with our abundance of picks this year.

Sorry. Single parenting a 3 year old that has been super sick with the flu for 8 days and now he's given it to me. I'm not usually a grumpy old man. Next round is on me.

Thanks Socrates. I'll never understand the level of patronizing snark on the internet. I'm a 47yo spots medicine physician, not a 13yo on an xbox forum. A simple, "You are allowed to interview in the first week after the championship games, but not to hire", would have sufficed. I've heard people say opposing things about the rules. But I hope you feel big! I'll be sure to message you with further questions. I hope you're not like that in person.

I don’t trust my QB evaluations, but O do generally trust the top 3 to 5 posters in the draft forum and their evaluations and it seems like a great year to choose 2nd overall. I do think that if Peters thinks Caleb is significantly better, that he may be willing to trade up, for two reasons. First, San Francisco wasn’t afraid to trade high end assets to obtain their guys. Second( Peters has already shown an ability to compensate for a lack of high end draft assets with great drafting in the middle and later rounds. Also, I’d be very against this, but in Kim’s latest video, he does talk about Cousins glowingly and references that he is a free agent. I don’t want Cousins, but not idly do the leaves of Lorien fall.