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Shurmer has taken OC or TE from HC a few times already. It's interesting that he keeps getting opportunities. He has spent a lot of time in the Eagles organization. My question would be is he going to jump into another HC job in a year or so if he comes here? He has already done that a few times. I have no problem with someone wanting to improve themselves but if I am Ron R I want someone who is committed to staying here in position at least 3 or 4 seasons to create the culture and stability this franchise is missing. Changing coordinators every year or so is not very conducive to that. I still think it's someone who is not available yet. He does not strike me as someone who over thinks things. He lays a plan and executes. He at the very least wants to talk to someone not able to interview yet. Otherwise I really think we would have an announcement. It may still be someone available if say the interview does not go well. But there is no other reason to not make an announcement. I was not rooting for or against KOC. He surely lacks experience but there are a lot of behind the scenes intangibles that we have no idea about. Also, he started out not having much authority and then gained more and you saw the offense get better. But it is a very small sample size. So ultimately if Ron wants him then fine. If not, then I can easily see that too. It's not like my opinion matters at all anyway. But I have to admit that after seeing how this thread has gone, I am kind of hoping KOC gets the job. The entertainment value in this and the welcome KOC thread alone would be worth it. Can someone please pass the popcorn!

Not wasted time at all. I for one - and I believe many others - appreciate you putting together the list and then adding to it. It is well thought out and had a logical progression. I was not up to date on many of the potential candidates. I feel I have a much better understanding of who is out there and what their high level qualifications and/or connections are. Again, please do not think it was wasted time. We need more posts like those in here. It was actually about football not conspiracy theories about why Ron is going to hire (or in this case not hire) or if Haskins is trying to run the team through twitter. Now that is truly wasted time. So thank you for a very relevant and helpful set of posts that have at least helped me understand who the realistically potential OC candidates are and what qualifications they have!! Great stuff!!

I want whoever Ron wants as OC. If that's KOC then great. And i do not care what he might do in a few years. If Ron thinks he is the best person to develop Haskins and create an offense that works to Haskins strengths, that is all that matters. If he thinks that is someone else, then that's great too. it's his ship. He will sink or float on his decisions. I do like that he is interviewing KOC. Shows an open minded approach to building his staff. And we will know whatever decision is made, it's made with all the information available, not just because Dan wants him to stay or Ron is the new guy and is firing everyone. But I also think this is Ron's biggest decision. If you look at his time in Carolina, he never did really build a solid offense around Cam outside a season or maybe 2. Now some of that was certainly the GM. But Ron owns a big part of it never really having an offensive identity. Yes, Cam was known for running but they seemed to waffle between Ok let's let him run to let's make him a pocket passer. Living in Carolina during almost his entire time there, it always felt like he was confused on offense. He had this immense talent but just was not sure how to get the best out of him. Doesn't mean people can't learn from mistakes. I fully expect he sees this better than me and is intent on doing a better job. To me that starts with who he hires as OC.

This is entirely too early to be posting this - and even worse to title it as if it's already happened. There is so much that can happen between now and then. Someone could trade ahead of the Skins to take him at 1. Not really likely as I think Borrows is the clear #1 pick. But look at a team like Green Bay. They do not need a QB but what would a player like Young do for them overall? Let's say CN takes Burrow and GB offers a boat load of picks for #2 so they can take Young? Say 2 1sts, 2nds (this years and next yrs for both) and a few later rd picks (yes this easily adds up of you figure them to be even the 20th pick - which they will not be with their record). What about the Falcons who will be in win now mode moving from 16? You could still get 2sts and 2 2nds (this years and next). That is at a minimum. I personally hope they trade out of the pick and get a bunch of picks. This team has way too many needs to focusing on one player. Now if there are no good deals like the Leonard Williams draft (or so we were told), then fine you take him. Don't get me wrong, he at least appears to be a generational type player. But how many times have we heard that about guys coming out of college only to have them be OK to good, maybe even really good but not generational. The more picks you have the better chance you have of getting players that will contribute long term. If I were an incoming HC/GM, my focus would be on OLine, TE and the secondary. Our Dline is good enough if they had some support - and that's without Ryan K who I would let go unless he signs a very team friendly contract.. I hate to do that as he is one of my favorite all time Redskins. But it would be best for the team long term. I would stop arguing with Trent - ask him once - new sheriff in town are you in or out? If he is out move him. Mosses needs to be gone. At this point you probably let Scherrf go too. McCoy gone, Reed gone, Davis gone. So if Alex can play well enough to be a back-up. If so Keenum is gone. And we know Norman is gone. Of course this is what I wanted them to do last year outside Sherrf who I would have resigned last yr so it's unlikely. But it's time to clean house at Oline, TE and get rid of some of those other top heavy contracts. Those moves add $50M to the $43M already projected without a raise in the CAP announced (expected to be about $10M.). With near $100M in CAP space and armed with several draft picks for this yr and next, you could transform this team literally over night. Get LT/ RT and TE early in the draft maybe even CB if you get the right trades. Then supplement your remaining needs, including depth with FAs and late rd draft picks. Assuming Chase Young is on the team already takes a lot of potential away from the team to make more wholesale changes. Yea, you can still let all those guys go and get CAP space with Young, but it narrows your ability to maneuver as you have more needs and you always overpay for FAs.

I agree with @stevemcqueen1 that Zierline is generally one of the best evaluators of talent. I also really like Dane Brugler. But they all miss some. In fairness to Zierline, he was not the only one to not be too high on Terry. He did have a 3rd rd grade on him - which is where he went. Draft position makes their strengths and weaknesses a bit relative, at least to me. A projected 6th rder without good seperation is not the same as a guy projected in the 2nd or 3rd. The guy for the higher rds would mean it's an area he could improve but it does not mean they can;t do it where the 6th rder may just be incapable. And just to be fair, they should have posted when he said the strengths were. He had them nailed IMO. When you add the overall description, you get a guy that by the numbers doesn't do anything that jumps out at you to make him special but they guy just makes plays. That's pretty fair.:

Are you ignoring the post on purpose??? There is a link in the post before your first request. May want to look before posting.

Look at the post before yours....

Anybody have a good link for someone out of country?

Thank you very much!!

Yes, I am out of area no cable. Any help?

Fedex field was not built by Snyder. Have to blame that one on Jack Kent Cooke. Was named after him until Snyder bought the team. Snyder is still a POS but just not on this one thing.

No, not concerned at all. Not even a little bit. He played about 60 minutes over 4 gms in preseason due mostly to a minor calf injury. The only game he played many minutes was against Atl. So it's kind of hard to have an impact from the sideline 🙂 Below is a pretty good breakdown of that Atl game. I was at this game and from the stands he appeared to be all over the place. He was creating hurries setting the edge, pushing runners back into tacklers etc. In other wards he was doing what he was supposed to do. Play within the defense. Overall, I am not sure what people are expecting. There is not a single player coming out of college that does't need some time to get up to speed in the pro game. He has played less than one full game of preseason. What exactly did you expect? A bunch of sacks and ints? He needs to learn the defense first. Make sure he is covering his assignments. Learning a new D is almost as hard as learning a new offence. Just for some perspective: JJ Watt had all of 3 tackles and zero sacks in 4 pre-season games his rookie yr. His first sack was gm 3 and he only had 5.5 sacks in his first season. Was he a project? Not even close. He has never even played the first regular season snap yet. Let's give him more than a minute of playing time to decide he is "raw" or a "project". Or expecting some unrealistic impact.

Sorry if this has been posted but i found it pretty interesting. The 1:46 mark is where hey show Sweat.

We traded Fuller to them. Should not have. he is a legit slot CB. He struggled to start the year but came on at the end of the season. Found his rhythm in their defense. Breeland - good luck with that. That reeks of desperation. Rieter could not stay healthy. He still may not. Also, that could just be for preseason. He is starting mostly out of attrition and poor drafting. Morse was the starting C last yr. He was injured off and on so they let him leave as a FA. Did not offer him a new contract. Jordan Devey was the backup and he was also injured. Unlike the Redskins who keep injured players, they let both go as FAs. Jimmy Murray was supposed to take that job and still may. Preseason is not over. But he is a second yr player who has not done anything to win the job yet.

Standard for philly fans. The whole thing is cowardly but the true coward is random guy taking a swipe as someone already down. Hope all three (including the random show guy) are banned from all NFL games. However it's philly, so they will get season tickets.

For what it's worth, I saw an interview with Landon Collins where he was asked who of the receivers (including TEs, RB) was giving them - the defensive secondary - the most trouble (which for the record is a great question - those are getting more and more rare so hats off to the media for asking this one.) He said Jordan Reed - no real surprise there other than it sounds like he is the old Jordan Reed, now how long will he stay that way???? - and then he said "the rookie, that #17" (Terry McLaurin). Said he was fast and can get behind you in a hurry but can run other routes and catches everything. Of course this is just off the top of his head - but it says something that of all the people on the field, Terry has his attention.

@stevemcqueen1 and @Anselmheifer great conversation!!! Lots of good discussion! Thanks! Love Sweats ceiling. Totally agree with ansel that if he even ends up being a 10 sack guy who can play the run well he is a great addition. He should make the other guys around him better. Cant wait till we can see him in live competition.

No idea. I went to his page and there is nothing to indicate what the joke is. Maybe something on local news? Not sure. Seems pretty random to me.

@VRIEL1 - Since you seem to want to have this conversion - I will respond here, in the proper place. Your statement: To get the fans back Mr. Snyder you should apologize to the fans for allowing the kneeling during the Anthem. Make a rule no kneeling during the Anthem, punishment will be either a 1 game benching or a fine and the money will go to the Veterans Administration or a non profit organization for survivors of police officers who have been killed. While I was already not willing to spend money on the Redskins until Dan sells the team - it was not until the NFL temporarily banned kneeling that I decided not to spend any money on the NFL as a whole - or at least as little as possible. CK did the most patriotic thing he could. It is wholly protected by the constitution.That police officers do a couragous job does not mean there are not major issues with racial inequality in how police deal with different people. People making it about the military are using that as an excuse to not look at the issue being protested. BTW: It was a veteran that convinced CK to kneel. Here is someone that articulates what's wrong with your position much better than I:

Not into the conspiracy thing - I actually think the refs are just really bad. But that was not a bogus call on the long snapper. Kotwica noticed the guy moves the ball illegally on most snaps. He told the refs to watch for it - happens all the time in the NFL. They watched, saw the illegal movement and called it. Nothing bogus. It as actually very good coaching.

Thanks! Was looking at transactions. Not in there.

Who was the first they brought back from IR? From what I am seeing Quinn would be the first. I think they still have two, one if they activated Quinn.

Since when have facts made any difference to this president? His followers aren't. He just makes it up as he goes along.

It may be unlikely reunion, however Jackson's one best trait is his ability to run under passes thrown deep. That reduces the need for accuracy. Could be a good fit.