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Maybe its because we don't see them as pointless. So now that we have the country's (and the world probably) attention, are we actually going to talk about the police treatment of blacks and debate solutions or are we going to keep dumping on Trump and the anti-protesters. Edit: i meant that as a collective we as a nation, not just we here in this thread.

Ftfy

Thanks. I just noticed I hadn't seen many people mention the treatment of blacks by police. I thought maybe it had become more about a statement on free speech. Sounds like to some it is a general statement of support. Like I said, I was just curious what the message was actually supposed to be now. Thanks again.

Thanks but I was looking for something from yesterdays protests. I saw a few. They didn't specifically say "I did X because of Y" and I'm not saying they needed to be that clear. I got the impression it was more of a "kick rocks" statement to POTUS. So I was wondering if the statement had changed or what. Not trying to say it effects validity or anything, just honestly asking about the intended message. Tomlin pretty much said they stayed in the locker room to stay out of it because they were here to play football (which is funny because they got beat by the freakin Bears).

So I have a question. And there is no underlying point I'm trying to make with this question, I'm just asking. Of all the players that protested yesterday, have any of them come out and said what they are protesting? I know why CK started it and I'm just wondering if that is what they were protesting yesterday. I havent heard any talk about that. I'm not asking what you THINK they were trying to say or if you think they were justified etc. I'm only asking if anyone has come out and said what they were protesting.

I've been in for almost 16 years and was a Republican until a few months ago. This is how I feel. They have the right to do it. I don't like them doing it. I have the right to say I think it is wrong. But I would be against the government attempting to stop them from being able to do it. As someone who has escorted friends home from the sandbox under that piece of cloth, and handed that piece of cloth neatly folded to a grieving widow,, I would appreciate if you referred to it in a more respectful manner. I'm not demanding it, I'm not requiring it, I'm not saying you don't have the right to say it, I'm just politely asking. I ****ing hate it when people do that. Though I have excepted it is going to happen anyways. I still think it is wrong.

Just to be clear, do me mean on the Presidential level or on any level? And are we allowed to vote for any GOP person or do you just mean trump? Because I can make a pretty good argument for some GOP (though a depressingly small percentage). I was a registered Republican for many years. I have voted for R, D, and I in many elections. I research and choose who I think is best regardless of the letter next to their name. I un-registered a few months ago when Trump took office. It was my own mini-protest. But seeing how many of our Leftists here treat others with differeing opinions, I won't be rushing down to register as a Democrat any time soon. The Left is going to need people like me to unseat Trump next election. Maybe you all shouldn't be such jerks. I live in Florida so that makes me even more special!!! Yup. Paint everyone as racist. That will help. @Kilmer17 You may want to edit out that pic you quoted.

Hard to say. I don't believe they have the courage to look themselves in the mirror.

I would bet anything that if the Left agreed to repeal the ACA and then pass the exact same thing but call it Trumpcare or GOPcare, the Right would get on board.

Not sure if this was rhetorical or what. I think what trump is doing with DACA is MORALLY wrong. I was asking about the legal side and the basis for the lawsuits under the law.

And thats why i asked about the grounds for these lawsuits. I think what trump is doing is wrong but whats the legal basis to oppose it?

Any smart legal minds in here able to explain the dreamers case to me? I mean I think what Trump is doing is morally wrong but I dont see how they have a legal leg to stand on. Isnt Trump just going back to pre-Obama EO position? Im assuming it was legal before Obama.

I may get laughed at for this but I dont really follow basketball. Does new england have a NBA team? Are they any good?

The eye is in south florida and I am on the very NW panhandle. And we are starting to feel it here. The base hasn't evacuated yet so Im still here. The storm is pretty much covering the entire state.

My wife said she heard that Sunday Ticket will be showing for everyone Week 1. Anyone else heard that? I dont want to wait until kickoff to find out she was wrong and miss the first quarter. Thanks.

Its Chief, not chief. And yes. That is part of my hesitation. I feel like i need to wait until my Sailors evac. But Im also worried roads will be clogged by the time they do. Base emegency team has a meeting at 0800 tomorrow to decide if they evac.

If you all lived in Pensacola, would you evac? Im torn after Ivan and its crazy path.

I know I am. I am about 90% packed to leave in my camper. Truck gets filled up before it goes below 3/4. Ive been riding the motorcycle as much as possible to preserve fuel. What is bad is this is where a lot of people evacuated to.

Gotcha. Probably better for the Gameday thread. I think this is just for hating the Patriots.

What was what?

Im in Pensacola. Im not evacuating yet. Im going to give it a few days to see what the track predicts once closer. But Ive started packing just in case.

I blame Hillary.

Guam?

Well you could have just skimmed it, not read it at all and hit the quote button, read it and not thought about what I may have been trying to say, etc. There are possibilities. You are right that maybe I didn't write it well and I apologize. I'm working like crazy and trying to participate where I can and on what I think is important. I didn't put the time into it that I should have. That said, I don't agree that I just seeing other arguments means I shouldn't point out issues with arguments I do see. Now, I have seen several arguments here which boil down to "they lost and need to shut up" and I think that is a poor argument. It seems to be an even more popular argument from the talking heads on TV. And it really is a ****ty argument. It is fraught with flaws but the biggest one is that it implies simply winning a war means you can dictate their beliefs and cultures. Hence, the Japan comparison. Is that more clear?

@tshile. See you just put together a well thought out point about WHY. And I agree. I was addressing the people that essentially stop after the "you lost" and dont add substance. Though I will also say simply winning a war doesnt make you right nor does "we didnt end your bloodline". It has to be fought with showing and explaining WHY you are right.