Painkiller

For me its less about the means used and more about irresponsibility, recklessness, and a lack of respect for human life. Like I said earlier, guns are designed to kill, but not to murder. In a world that has guns, they will not go away and they can’t be un-invented...to restrict the law-abiding good people from owning a gun (or a particular type) when the criminal element will just break another law to have one makes no sense to me.

I can’t disagree with those facts. The AR-15 is a civilianized version of an M-16. I’m not an expert on that gun and I don’t own one, but I know plenty who do.

It’s stock as you put it because it’s common sense. The logic is sound and the comparisons make sense. I did answer your first question. I said I don’t think they should be blamed at all. Maybe we are talking about two different things. Blame vs. liability. I see them the same. A gun is not designed for murder it is designed for killing. If there is no murder and the killing is justified...there is no blame or liability to be placed at the feet of the shooter, his gun, or the maker of his gun. If the gun is used to commit a crime than the maker of the gun is also not libel because the gun was not meant to be used for that purpose. Kind of like blaming a prescription pill company when somebody intentionally overdoses on their products...or blaming a GPS for running a red light. I did not buy my guns to murder people. I did buy them to defend myself and my family which could result in an irresponsible and reckless persons death if necessary. In that case...I blame the perp for his death and nobody else. If you believe that a gun maker has SOME of the blame when someone commits a crime with the gun then you also have to believe a knife maker has SOME as well when used for the same purpose. Edit: And our current gun laws are sufficient we just need to have the balls to fully prosecute and punish those who commit crimes with guns.

I don’t I don’t think we can blame a company when it’s product is misused. A gun is designed to kill...but not to murder. There is a difference. If somebody uses a chef’s knife to stab somebody in the back...is the maker of the chef’s knife to blame? Even a little bit? Somebody can commit murder with a chef’s knife, but that isn’t what the knife is designed for. If somebody gets high and takes their Dodge Ram out for a joyride and hits and kills a couple in a Civic...is Dodge to blame? Is Honda? Slippery slope

I see a difference Everyone knows guns can kill. The gun industry does not try to cover up that fact or mislead people into thinking guns are not deadly if you end up on the business end of one. Cigarettes were not always known to kill people. The tobacco industry worked to cover up the fact that they can for years.

Because ownership and management is a source of the problems...not the sole source. The players play the games. We have had a lot of good/great players here since Snyder became owner, and some embarrassing ones in their play and their character. Guys like Spurrier should never open their mouth about anything Redskins.

If I remember correctly Spurrier’s blocking “schemes” with guys like Trung nearly ended the life of poor Patrick Ramsey. There was one blind-side sack in particular...I believe against Carolina..when I was convinced Ramsey was not going to get up. He did though...

THIS If you played/coached here you were a part of the team...and whether you like it or not you take some ownership in whatever level of suck occurred while you were here. Leadership and Teamwork 101. You win as a team and you lose as a team. If I was Spurrier, I wouldn’t bring the Redskins up at all. Does he really want people to remember just how bad he sucked as an NFL coach?

Most definitely...Apathetic Fan The healthy obsession I had with the Redskins for years has absolutely diminished to levels I never would have expected. I come to Extremeskins now to browse...much like a dude who snoops out a high school girlfriend on Facebook. “Let’s see how life turned out for her...” A pending root canal would excite me more than I am for the 2019 season at this point.

All joking aside, I wonder sometimes if the fan base can be beaten down to the point we no longer care about a rebranding of the Redskins. I think it's clear we are closer than we have ever been before to that day right now.

Yeah it was that bad. When the Eagles scored their first touchdown the place erupted like we were in Philadelphia and they just locked up the Lombardi at home. The experience was surreal.

43 I was 16 when the Redskins won their last Super Bowl.

I honestly wonder if there was a worse attended home game in the history of the NFL than there was today at Fed Ex. I bet in the worst seasons of the Lions and Browns they still never had a late season home game like this one. I wish I could say I’m exaggerating even a little bit but I’m not. The place was overrun. In my general area alone, 313 and 314, I think there was 5 or 6 Skins fans out of approximately 35 people. Edit: Honestly, outside of my group of 4 Skins fans, I literally saw 2 or maybe 3 more. The rest of the seats were empty or had an Eagle fan sitting in them (or standing in front of them). They were loud and obnoxious the whole time. They knew they had the numbers and behaved accordingly. Like I said, nothing much to do but grin and bear it.

...so I went today because I was provided 4 free Club Level seats from my brother and a parking pass. I was expecting it to be bad from a numbers standpoint...anyone in their right mind would have...but I can honestly say I have never seen a game at Fed Ex like that one. It was 80% Eagles fans if there was one. My friends and I were honestly asking did they bus them down for the game? All you could do was sit back and laugh. The Eagles had a home game in Landover today. I couldn’t even muster the energy to be bothered. I only went myself because it was free. I think about the kind of fan I used to be in comparison to the place I find I myself now and it’s pretty sad. Why am I still here? Why do I still post on occasion? I guess because I hope for the future. I hope that one day this ship gets turned in the right direction.