elkabong82 Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 This movie is tracking to be just another box office flop. There isn't a wide appeal for this type of movie in the U.S. It's a shame to because the movie was enjoyable and has gotten mostly positive reviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobGriffin Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 I read that this was going to be a trilogy somewhere. I will look for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 I liked the movie, it was better than I thought it would be. Getting another one made is going to be hard. I think the main company that produced this movie will be hard pressed to greenlight another one. I think this is the second movie that the company greenlighted and it failed to cover costs in the U.S. or is tracking that way. Plus, the company is releasing another Godzilla movie next year. The best bet for another movie is for it to do such huge business in Asia that Asians bankroll a sequel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Saw it last night in 3D. If you turn off your brain and just watch it for what it is it's really fun. I mean that in a good way. If there's a sequel I'll see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer_FFX Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Saw it last night - fun, summer popcorn fare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSW Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Info on possible Pacific Rim Sequal: ----------------------------WARNING SPOILERS AHEAD------------------------------------------- http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/pacific-rim-2-what-should-we-expect-from-the-sequel.php Depending on where you look, Pacific Rim is either in 2nd or 3rd place at the box office this weekend. But it should make enough money to warrant a sequel, especially with international business. And those of us who are into this new original property from Guillermo del Toro are really, really into it. There’s certainly franchise potential, what with its whole background mythology (and back story, which you can find. Plus it’s going to at least gross more than del Toro’s first Hellboy film, and that spawned a part II. There’s also the fact that Legendary Pictures began moving ahead on developing Pacific Rim 2 way back in December, hiring the first film’s screenwriter, Travis Beacham, to start penning another installment. In the months since, he and del Toro have been sharing some bare bits and pieces and possible ideas for what happens next. The details are thin but these teases about the direction part 2 would go in allow for some educated guessing and speculation as to what we’d see as far as more monster and robot battles. Below I highlight some of what’s been officially said, some of what’s been drawn from those reports and some of what we’re simply hoping for with Pacific Rim 2. If you haven’t yet seen Pacific Rim, there are spoilers to be found ahead. So get off the computer, go see it and then come back to read further. A Completely Different Direction Talking to The Hollywood Reporter, del Toro stated this week that the sequel would be unlike the first film. “We have plans that are pretty bold and pretty crazy,” he said. “We would not be repeating anything from the first one. We would go to completely fresh territory.” What he means isn’t clear, but it almost sounds too different. Obviously we don’t want a rehash, but people go to see Pacific Rim for monsters vs. robots. So it should still be based in that premise. It would be pretty funny if Pacific Rim 2 was primarily focused on the relationship between Raleigh and Mako (Charlie Hunnam and Rinko Kikuchi) — and there is hint that this romantic storyline would indeed be “built up” — or if the Jaegers now fought something else entirely (giant apes from Skull Island? the spaceships from Independence Day? zombies trying to get over the giant walls?). Maybe we get to see the whole story over again but from the perspective of the aliens? I’m with Beacham, who tweeted today in response to the film’s box office: “Literally the only reason I’m following the numbers is that the sequel is bonkers and I want it to happen.” Kaiju Drift At a screening in California this week, del Toro revealed during a surprise Q&A that he’d like the sequel to focus on the idea of humans “drifting” with the monsters. In the first movie, Dr. Newton Geiszler (Charlie Day) was able to connect with the brain of a Kaiju in order to understand the creatures and learn of their origins. The guess here is that maybe the humans will be able to control a whole Kaiju with this science. Another report from the same screening says del Toro brought up a deleted scene from the film that may be relevant to the story of the second. In the scene Geiszler mentions that the monsters have silicon-based DNA rather than carbon. I don’t know what that could mean but it has to do with the desire to show us more of the world they and the alien masters hail from. Also it sounds like Day could wind up a bigger part of the sequel, which is good or bad depending on how you enjoyed him in the first go (there seems to be a split with fans on that). The Alien Empire Strikes Back Another side to the teases about a sequel focusing on the Kaiju drifting is del Toro’s hint that it will actually be of benefit to the aliens in the “antiverse,” maybe more so than to the humans. As he recently told Brendon Connelly at Bleeding Cool, “They have a hive mentality, meaning that if you ‘drift’ with a Kaiju brain, you are drifting with every Kaiju alive. Depending on the duration of the drift the information might be complete or incomplete, but the Kaiju know everything the human drifts with them knows. That’s as much as I can tell you without spoiling the sequel.” So maybe Geiszler ultimately did a bad thing by connecting to the Kaiju brain. He’s one of the smartest we have, and he’s given all that intelligence to the enemy. Gipsy Danger 2.0 Like any soap opera character thought to be killed off, the Gipsy Danger is not completely down for the count. According to that first report from del Toro’s surprise Q&A, the filmmaker claims that this main Jaeger of Pacific Rim, which was last seen falling through the bridge between worlds and acting like a bomb to both close the portal and destroy a bunch of evil aliens and their Kaiju in the process, may be back for Pacific Rim 2. Or at least parts of it, because the robot didn’t exactly disintegrate over in the “antiverse.” But that means the aliens have the pieces and could use them to reconstruct Gipsy Danger or simply learn about man’s technologies and strategies and use the thing against us. Del Toro also said to MTV News this week, “We will have Gipsy 2.0 for sure.” Good Kaiju vs. Evil Jaegers Putting the two above points together, Jason McDonald at Horror-Movies.ca thinks the different direction that del Toro is going in for Pacific Rim 2 is that the Kaiju will now be controlled by man and will therefore be defending cities from a bunch of Jaeger (or Mecha Kaiju) sent to attack the Earthlings. Of course, that’s not a huge change from the first film. It’s still monsters vs. robots, just with the roles reversed. Or maybe it’s a lot more complicated. More from that MTV News interview: “You’re gonna see a merging of Kaiju and Jaeger. And that is quite special.” Pentecost 2.0 During a press event in San Francisco recently, Rinko Kikuchi hinted that Idris Elba could return in Pacific Rim 2 despite seeming to die when he blew up his Jaeger to make way for the Gipsy Danger to finish the mission. Did he survive the explosion? Will it just be that nobody died in the first movie? Kikuchi’s idea was that her character could somehow still communicate with Pentecost (Elba) via the drift connection. That sounds a lot like we’re getting into Star Wars Force territory, but if this can be explained adequately, why not? This did come from an actress’s mouth, however, and may have just been her wish rather than anything she heard from del Toro or Beacham or anyone else. Mexican Jaeger Another part of Pacific Rim deleted from the movie we saw on the screen apparently involved a Mexican Jaeger, which could show up in the sequel instead. According to Shock Till You Drop, del Toro said last month, “We basically couldn’t afford it. He was the most expensive Jaeger.” He elaborated to the site later: “We had a Mexican Jaeger with two ex-convicts that got a deal. They told them that,’If you drive a Jaeger one more time, we’ll give you freedom.’ But it was just too many backstories.” I understand his reasoning for the cut, but this backstory is more interesting than some others in the movie. I hope it does wind up being used for the next. Atlantic Rim Who else agrees the logical title for a Pacific Rim sequel is “Atlantic Rim”? Not only does it make sense as a title, but obviously the change to the Atlantic Ocean would give us whole new locations to fight in (maybe the rift opens up at the other side of the world). Sure, giant monster movies tend to be tied to the Pacific due to the Japanese-led genre. Even The Lost World: Jurassic Park brought the T-Rex to San Diego. And sure, a lot of the major cities of the Atlantic aren’t as close to the ocean as the major cities of the Pacific. But there’s always New York, Boston, Rio, Dakar, Lagos, Cape Town, Miami, Reykjavik, Buenos Aires and Montevideo, among others. The last of these makes me think that if del Toro wasn’t up to direct the sequel that Fede Alvarez could take over (see his giant robot-filled short film Ataque de Panico!). The question would be if the franchise continued, could installments titled “Indian Ocean,” “Arctic Ocean” and “Antarctic Ocean” work? How About Some Daytime Battles? My main issue with the dark visuals of Pacific Rim are probably the fault of the 3D projection at my cinema more than the cinematography, but still I was dying to see a battle that didn’t take place at night in the rain. I’d love to see the sequel set some fights during the day, in sunlight or at least clearer skies. More aerial battles would be nice, too, as opposed to much more sea encounters. I’d even take some battles in the “antiverse,” though, as I’d just like to see Pacific Rim 2 play with different backdrops, like a fighting arcade game. Each battle is somewhere new. Put one in the ice, another in the desert, another in the African plains, etc. I love the movie’s attention to diversity in characters, now we just need more diversity in setting. A Lot More Ron Perlman As usual, Ron Perlman is a scene-chewing gem, and I for one wanted a lot more of him in Pacific Rim. It was hilarious yet disappointing to see him eaten in what seemed like an homage to the famed Samuel L. Jackson death in Deep Blue Sea. Then there were cheers all around when his character, Hannibal Chau, cut himself out of the baby Kaiju belly during the credits. He’s alive! He can return in Pacific Rim 2! Maybe he and Charlie Day can be the main characters this time. Perhaps somehow by being inside of a Kaiju, Chau developed some bond with the creatures, not that different from Geiszler’s drifting ability. Or maybe he’s somehow not really Chau… Okay, let’s not go too far. But if they want to make me enjoy the next one more than the first they can start by putting Perlman in a majority of scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar78 Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 I grew up never questioning the quality of things like Voltron, Transformers, and Macross. It's not supposed to be a good movie. Treat it like driving through a neighborhood during Christmastime to look at the lights. That's all it is. Gypsy Danger isn't asking for "Rosebud", its toy sled, before the end of the movie. It's like asking a sommelier to give you a review of a can of Coke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairRedskin Posted July 18, 2013 Author Share Posted July 18, 2013 Nice find, HSW. Now you've given me some real hope. Gypsy Danger 2.0, now with more swords I saw this earlier. Makes Optimus look like a little ole punk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkFan8 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Horrifically overacted, jokes were forced and cringe-worthy, complete and utter lack of character development, plot was totally laughable at best. All of those I fully expected. What I didn't expect was how terrible the action scenes were, barely being able to make out any details of what is going on. What's the point in developing different Kaiju when they all look virtually identical in the frenetic action? What's the point of introducing multiple cool Jaeger's only to kill them off almost instantaneously, all the while (again) displaying hardly any difference in the way they fight? I'm more cynical than most, but that was a complete waste of 2 hours and $15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus87 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Hopefully this kills in Asia. I'd love for this movie to be viable enough to get sequels or at the very least spawn more entries in the Mecha/Kaiju genre. This movie kind of feels like it's a sequel already since we don't get the origin story shown. We just get a briefing of the events. I'd be down with a movie covering the first SF attack and the events that follow. Not that I would mind if they just moved forward. Either way. Just give me more. I don't think there'll be a prequel movie of any sorts. If you'd like to get more into what happened before the part in time where the film picks up, they actually released an official prequel graphic novel called "Pacific Rim: Tales From Year Zero": http://www.amazon.com/Pacific-Rim-Tales-Legendary-Comics/dp/0785153942 This movie is tracking to be just another box office flop. There isn't a wide appeal for this type of movie in the U.S. I wouldn't agree with that at all. It was the #1 film of the international box office last weekend - so far it's grossed $84 million in the U.S. (and it'll probably just make it over the $100 million mark before it's out of theaters in the U.S.), and it's made about $140 million internationally. It had a pretty big budget ($190 million) but it should make that back in international gross alone. So three things: 1 - If it finishes with a worldwide box office total that's, let's conservatively guess here - $50 million over its budget, that's a solid success. 2 - Besides the box office numbers, the merchandise market for this movie is pretty strong internationally, which drives a lot of long-term fan interest as a franchise, and I'm sure it'll make some money when it comes out on DVD (which is becoming a bigger part of the pie for determining how "successful" a movie is). 3- The international market is also becoming increasingly important in Hollywood, so for it to play this well overseas - Hollywood execs like to see that. No, definitely not a "flop" by any reasonable measure. It's not a massive blockbuster, but it's certainly far from a "flop." "R.I.P.D" is a flop. "Turbo" is a flop. I could see a sequel getting greenlit. Maybe for a slightly smaller budget though. Resident Evil sequels keep coming even though those movies either don't make back their budget or barely break even domestically. They make most of their money on the international market. I think the foreign take has the potential to be huge for PR seeing as how this movie is tailor made for the Asian market. That's what I'm hoping, at least. This is pretty spot-on. Granted, Pacific Rim uses a much bigger budget than the average Resident Evil film (which are made for only about $45-50 million, although I think the last one, which was in 3D, was like $70 million or something crazy for such a dumb movie), but the international market is still pretty important and Pacific Rim has massive appeal for that audience. I saw it this past weekend in IMAX 3D - I like Charlie Hunnam and Charlie Day, and it's cool to see them jumping into major summer movies from their awesome TV shows, I like Idris Elba in just about everything, and I've always appreciated Ron Perlman and Guillermo del Toro, so I was a bit biased going into it, but I still thought it was a pretty great summer action movie. A decent story, a cool idea that hasn't been explored in this scale in the U.S. market before, and tons of pure fun with the action sequences. If I had three complaints, they'd be: 1 - Ron Perlman's character wasn't utilized nearly as much as I thought he'd be, which was disappointing. 2 - The rest of the pilots (this supposed global best of the best) were pretty easily outmatched when it came time to show their stuff. Although I guess one could argue that was because the Kaiju took it up a notch in those fights, both in numbers and in abilities, but still a fairly weak showing. 3 - The two main characters, Raleigh and Mako, weren't really distinctly separated from the others or built up enough to make it seem like they were legitimately "special" as pilots. Raleigh was simply "unpredictable" (I guess because he did crazy things like disobey orders to help out a fishing boat?) and Mako was just super pissed off at the Kaiju. For being the sort of "chosen ones" in the war, they didn't possess any overwhelming "X-factors." Overall though, I liked it a lot. Very different from most of the big project stuff that's coming out of Hollywood these days, and if seen in IMAX 3D, it's like the ideal summer movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jobaga Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 There is still hope for a sequel... http://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/scifi/pacific-rim-sequel-happen-chinese-box-office-strong.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jobaga Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Thanks to China, it looks like a sequel is a very strong possibility! http://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/scifi/pacific-rim-breaks-openingday-records-china-sequel.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chew Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 i just noticed the title change, and i laughed out loud good news for this flick, PR just broke box office records in China: http://www.totalfilm.com/news/pacific-rim-lands-record-breaking-opening-in-china good chance we'll see a sequel. I'm not super critical of movies like some are, but I thought PR was a fun, action packed flick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo21 Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 i just noticed the title change, and i laughed out loud good news for this flick, PR just broke box office records in China: http://www.totalfilm.com/news/pacific-rim-lands-record-breaking-opening-in-china good chance we'll see a sequel. I'm not super critical of movies like some are, but I thought PR was a fun, action packed flick. Yep, great news! It still needs to open in Japan as well! del Toro apparently has an hour of footage he wanted in the film they left out. Also says Deadline, which goes on to note that PAC RIM has yet to open in Spain, Brazil, and Japan. Presumably RIM will find tremendous support in Japan. Speaking of which, check out this magnificent Toho-themed trailer for the film... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairRedskin Posted August 2, 2013 Author Share Posted August 2, 2013 I saw that it did well in China. Pretty stoked that they're already saying a sequel looks more likely now before it even opens in Japan. Also, "Job"? Really? Whoever did that can suck a bag of oranges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 I would expect some changes in a PR2. Since that movie will be making most of it's money overseas, they might tailor it more towards that audience. I would also expect PR2 to open in the Asian markets first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 I liked the movie.. not enough giant monsters trampling the city for me, but eventually. ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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