fansince62 Posted June 24, 2002 Share Posted June 24, 2002 Should Liberals be allowed to have children? this can be view dispassionately as a matter of national security that potentially influences the very survival of this great country.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted June 24, 2002 Share Posted June 24, 2002 I am an independent. Quite frankly, I thought during the 1990's BOTH parties fell asleep at the wheel, preening over the rosy economic picture, and allowing time to waste on important issues that no one wanted to address for fear of having to roll up the sleeves and do some real work. So, only now are we getting around to issues such as Islamic fundamentalist violence directed at Americans, which has been going on abroad since the end of the Gulf War. Bin Laden declared war on the US in 1995 and no one took him seriously. Khobar Towers? Embassy bombings in Kenya? Even as recent as the USS Cole. The evidence was there but no one wanted to look at it. Meanwhile, all attention was focused on how good we felt at home, about the peace dividend, and how we didn't need a military anymore. The internet was going to bring people together and economics was going to become the new coin of power so to speak. Problems in Russia? Give 'em a loan. Problems in Brazil or Thailand? Give 'em a loan. Hey, the Dow is hitting 10,000 and the NASDAQ 4,500, what me worry? :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted June 24, 2002 Share Posted June 24, 2002 Hey Bulldog, we're accept members intot he Demican party all the time! Come on over. We vote of people, not parties! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeSkin Posted June 24, 2002 Share Posted June 24, 2002 Should Liberals be allowed to have children? Tough question...I'm gonna have to say no, because we all have to give up some of our civil liberties in the post 9/11 era...conservatives will give their lives to the country, and liberals will forfeit the right to have children. Sounds fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted June 24, 2002 Share Posted June 24, 2002 :doh: How many days until training camp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted June 24, 2002 Share Posted June 24, 2002 I'm with you, Henry. How long til training camp. Seriously guys, you got me thinking about the eugenics movement now. Did you know that US practiced eugenics well into the '70's. For the record, if the liberals stop having kids and the conservatives give up their lives for the country... I just don't think the McGlouglin Group would survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted June 24, 2002 Share Posted June 24, 2002 Yes, In the words of Ted Knight "The world needs ditch-diggers too" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeSkin Posted June 24, 2002 Share Posted June 24, 2002 I hope everybody knew that I was kidding. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackC Posted June 24, 2002 Share Posted June 24, 2002 Originally posted by OrangeSkin Tough question...I'm gonna have to say no, because we all have to give up some of our civil liberties in the post 9/11 era...conservatives will give their lives to the country, and liberals will forfeit the right to have children. Sounds fair. Anyone who would consider giving up civil liberties(especially given the current government) are the ones who should not be allowed to have children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy-the-Greek Posted June 24, 2002 Share Posted June 24, 2002 We need a big signing to talk about. We are all going stir crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince62 Posted June 24, 2002 Author Share Posted June 24, 2002 OS....too late....you only get one shot at this!! BurGold..........lmao. they are a helpless/clueless bunch aren't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted June 24, 2002 Share Posted June 24, 2002 What about that pesky 2nd amendment Jack? Or does that Liberty not count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackC Posted June 24, 2002 Share Posted June 24, 2002 Kilmer, It seems you should ask your conservative friends that question. I have said I'm not in favor of giving up any of my liberties, including the second amendment. What about you? Which liberties are you willing to give up in the name of the war on terror? BTW Most people who end up being ditch diggers are surely republicans. They are real good at tag but not too good reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted June 24, 2002 Share Posted June 24, 2002 GASP!!!! We agree on something????? WTF!!!! Im not giving up any of my freedoms either. What am in favor of, is taking away the freedoms that non citizens enjoy currently. See the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackC Posted June 24, 2002 Share Posted June 24, 2002 Originally posted by Kilmer17 GASP!!!! We agree on something????? WTF!!!! Im not giving up any of my freedoms either. What am in favor of, is taking away the freedoms that non citizens enjoy currently. See the difference? Sure. Isn't Padilla a citizen though? Besides we have always agreed on one important thing, the Redskins! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted June 24, 2002 Share Posted June 24, 2002 Don't you know - Padilla lost his rights when he took (well... planned to take - hey wait is this Minority Report?) up Arms against the country. It's in the constitution you know. Just kidding about the minority report thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted June 24, 2002 Share Posted June 24, 2002 Henry, you said it brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackC Posted June 24, 2002 Share Posted June 24, 2002 Originally posted by The Evil Genius Don't you know - Padilla lost his rights when he took (well... planned to take - hey wait is this Minority Report?) up Arms against the country. It's in the constitution you know. Just kidding about the minority report thing The Constitution also says a court will decide if he has taken up arms unless he is captured in the area of action. Now because the government has decided the war is everywhere I guess Chicago is the arena. Don't get me wrong I think the guy is probably guilty but we should all be concerned when the governement takes a US citizen and makes him "vanish" without giving him due process. The point is who proved Padilla took up arms against the country? Is "because Dumya said so" good enough for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted June 24, 2002 Share Posted June 24, 2002 The Govt is acting well within the laws of the land. If you dont agree with them, have them changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted June 24, 2002 Share Posted June 24, 2002 Liberals will be in the world for a long time lezzies in England have a sperm bank designed only for them thanks to some hispanic dude and its gonna catch on in LA. Saw this sick junk when surfing the channels and found some talk show on fox 5 good day somethin Can you imagine if we had minority report technology? Not only would terrorism and crime be on the endagnered list here you could apply it in other areas. Sorry sir but if you get with this chick she'll bear a carpet muncher or butt pirate I'm afraid we have to clip you and tie her tubes. Sorry Abe but keeping Wes means 10 more years of futility I'm afraid we alread handed him his pink slip. Sorry ASF but your 2005 Huyndai Excel is a safety hazard and you aren't helping the nations economy by being cheap not buying more gas so from now on you will drive a gas guzzling SUV known as the 2005 SUX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKurp Posted June 24, 2002 Share Posted June 24, 2002 In a study conducted by the U.S. Dept. of Human and Health Services it was documented that Republicans give birth to males at a rate of 106 for every 100 females born. Male Republicans married to female Democrats produced a slightly lower ratio of males to females (104 / 100). Female Republicans whose offspring were produced by male Democrats showed basically the same ratio as couples who were both Republicans. Couples who were both Democratics produced females slightly more often (100.9 / 100) than males. A spokesperson for Human & Health Services, who requested anonimity, was quoted as saying that if Republicans were to dominate both the White House and Congress for a 20 year continuous span, it would result in 20 to 30 million males for which there would be no available females. Upon hearing this, Democrats have requested a hearing with officials from the U.S. Dept. of Immigration and Naturalization to discuss relaxing quotas on women entering the country from countries such as Russia and the Philippeans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted June 24, 2002 Share Posted June 24, 2002 As a purely academic question, the Padilla question is an interesting test of morality and the courts. However, outside of academics or an ethics debate, the course taken against him seems logical and reasonable, but Padilla and possibly his coharts (sp). He should be in millitary prison under interrogation, when that interrogation is concluded, he should then be tried civilly as well. However, the big brotherian view just espoused that would condemn poor Wes Unseld to joblessness is a very scary thought. I mean, it would be terrible to put Wes on Welfare and have to support him. Seriously though, even though it was a joke the range and subjectivity of the crimes listed makes me worry. Padilla should have his moment in court and I hope that the threshhold for arresting Americans in this manner is fairly high. Otherwise, it could lead down a dangerous Orwellian road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackC Posted June 24, 2002 Share Posted June 24, 2002 Something tells my Wes Unseld has plenty of money with or without his current job. Kilmer, You trust the government on the Padilla thing and I don't. I trust the government on most everything else and you trust the government on nothing else. Kind of funny don't you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted June 24, 2002 Share Posted June 24, 2002 I dont trust certain people in the Govt, but as an entity I do trust the "Govt". I do see the irony you mentioned though. Does that make 3 things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted June 24, 2002 Share Posted June 24, 2002 Padilla should have his moment in court and I hope that the threshhold for arresting Americans in this manner is fairly high. Otherwise, it could lead down a dangerous Orwellian road. Now imagine its August 2k1 and word of mouth points us to 20 to 30 guys plotting to take out the pentagon, space needle LAX, Whitehouse, WTC, and other buildings of significance using airplanes. We put them in military custody just as we have padilla and how much do you wanna bet that you, the ACLU, the Arab league and the nation of our friends Saudi Arabia as well as liberals and hatas of dubba ya scream about this injustice? We need to get away from waiting until there is a smoking gun or bloody knife to go with the body before acting unless you believe we should wait until there is an almond odor in the air (ack ack *) before we react and then its too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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